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post #31 of 1073
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Very true. Then it looks like the RS48/X55 will be the new sweet spot. It has a CMS, e-shift2, improved 3D, and 50,000:1 contrast. Sounds good. smile.gif

Exactly what I was thinking...
post #32 of 1073
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

JVC passed out KOOLAID to anyone willing to sip.

That is so true
post #33 of 1073
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Very true. Then it looks like the RS48/X55 will be the new sweet spot. It has a CMS, e-shift2, improved 3D, and 50,000:1 contrast. Sounds good. smile.gif

If I didn't have the RS40 before the RS55, I would think it was worth the extra $3000. Good think I sold my RS55, I may not lose much after all. I got a w7000 and now it looks like I might pick up the X55.
post #34 of 1073
Another thing that I noticed is that it looks like the RS48/X55 will NOT be ISF ccc Certified, but it will have a full CMS. I don't understand what difference will that make if one wants to get it calibrated by a professional?
post #35 of 1073
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Another thing that I noticed is that it looks like the RS48/X55 will NOT be ISF ccc Certified, but it will have a full CMS. I don't understand what difference will that make if one wants to get it calibrated by a professional?

Probably not a great deal apart from an ISF badge (that JVC have to pay for I imagine). So long as it has the same greyscale, gamma and CMS controls as the previous X70/RS55 then it should still be possible to calibrate it properly, however, until someone tries we won't know if the CMS is more linear than it was last year. If the CMS works better then the RS48/X55 could well be a very sweet spot for many. Possibly not worth buying the cheaper model and adding a Mini3D as many did last time as you'd lose the E-shift. I think of it more like an RS45 with added E-shift and CMS which is what many were hoping for on the RS45's replacement, but JVC just squeeze more money out of the buyers this way. wink.gif
post #36 of 1073
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Another thing that I noticed is that it looks like the RS48/X55 will NOT be ISF ccc Certified, but it will have a full CMS. I don't understand what difference will that make if one wants to get it calibrated by a professional?

I do calibrations myself. I like to do them every 40-50hrs. I kind of know when I need to do one and it beats paying for one every 2-3 months
post #37 of 1073
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

For $3000 more, i don't think its work it. The only thing the made a difference to me between the RS40, 50,000, vs the RS55, 80,000, was the eshift.

So, did the contrast difference between your RS40 vs your RS55 not seem that significant? If not then it does seem that the X55 is the new model to get with the eshift2.

Mike
post #38 of 1073
Why does the press release say:

50000:1
90000:1
130000:1

But those images clearly say:

60000:1
100000:1
150000:1

??
post #39 of 1073
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

So, did the contrast difference between your RS40 vs your RS55 not seem that significant? If not then it does seem that the X55 is the new model to get with the eshift2.

Mike

When I had the RS45 and RS55 side by side on my HP, I could see some difference with the iris clamped down, but it wasn't day/night.. you had to A/B to really pick up on it.

The extra contrast in the more expensive models is likely a result of the dual iris which requires clamping it down a good bit to realize the extra contrast... at the expense of light output of course. I have my RS55 @ -11 on the HP and it looks great, but you can't get away with this on a nice sized low gain screen. (certainly not a 142" 16:9)

The X55 with the e-shift and CMS is likely going to be the big seller, possibly cannibalizing sales of the entry and higher end models.
post #40 of 1073
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

When I had the RS45 and RS55 side by side on my HP, I could see some difference with the iris clamped down, but it wasn't day/night.. you had to A/B to really pick up on it.
The extra contrast in the more expensive models is likely a result of the dual iris which requires clamping it down a good bit to realize the extra contrast... at the expense of light output of course. I have my RS55 @ -11 on the HP and it looks great, but you can't get away with this on a nice sized low gain screen. (certainly not a 142" 16:9)
The X55 with the e-shift and CMS is likely going to be the big seller, possibly cannibalizing sales of the entry and higher end models.

Thanks, that makes sense. I currently have a RS40 but wanted to try eshift. I plan on upgrading my 96" wide 2.35 1.5 gain screen to a 115" wide 2.35 2.4 gain high power screen so that should give a nice bright image while I can turn the aperture down to improve contrast.

Bad thing is the RS40's aren't selling for much and I have a new lamp in it with the flapper and projector has great convergence. I might just have to keep it as a backup.

Thanks,
Mike
post #41 of 1073
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Very true. Then it looks like the RS48/X55 will be the new sweet spot. It has a CMS, e-shift2, improved 3D, and 50,000:1 contrast. Sounds good. smile.gif
Not that it's a big deal but no lens cover.
http://www.perfectimage.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/%CE%94%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B15.jpg
post #42 of 1073
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Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post

...3D performance has been improved, with new circuitry and a new optical engine responsible for reduced cross talk. The result is more natural, clear and brighter images.,,

The improvements noted in the new models is different but sounds somewhat similar to the information below which is straight from the RS-45 product info on JVC's website:

- Upgraded optical engine and driver for smoother gradations and reduced motion blur
- Improved driver for increased brightness while reducing crosstalk

The 2012 models were supposed to have improved 3D as well.
post #43 of 1073
Just went home, my X3 and I looked at each other, high fived and chest bumped. Then I said "Don't worry buddy, this is your home for another year" X3 shed a tear and we decided to catch a movie together this weekend. biggrin.gif
post #44 of 1073
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

Just went home, my X3 and I looked at each other, high fived and chest bumped. Then I said "Don't worry buddy, this is your home for another year" X3 shed a tear and we decided to catch a movie together this weekend. biggrin.gif

Nice! smile.gif I am with you there!
post #45 of 1073
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

Just went home, my X3 and I looked at each other, high fived and chest bumped. Then I said "Don't worry buddy, this is your home for another year" X3 shed a tear and we decided to catch a movie together this weekend. biggrin.gif

LOL...... You might have the smartest idea I have heard. wink.gif

Mike
post #46 of 1073
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Nice! smile.gif I am with you there!

The RS55/W7000 combo might hold me over for a while. Now I can spring for the Captivator S2 sub with the dual 18 inch drivers i've had my eye on.. hehe
post #47 of 1073
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

Just went home, my X3 and I looked at each other, high fived and chest bumped. Then I said "Don't worry buddy, this is your home for another year" X3 shed a tear and we decided to catch a movie together this weekend. biggrin.gif

Shoot, I might just do that with my good 'ol RS20 wink.gif Getting the darblet to give it some more pop this next Mon! biggrin.gif , giving her a new pair of shoes....
post #48 of 1073
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

Shoot, I might just do that with my good 'ol RS20 wink.gif Getting the darblet to give it some more pop this next Mon! biggrin.gif , giving her a new pair of shoes....

I noticed a nice pop to my X3 after setting up the Darbee. I have it set on HD 45 which seems to give it a nice level of detail without going over the top. I also setup a second projector for TV, games, sports, etc and use only the JVC for Blu's which will save both bulb and unit. I baby this thing too much. biggrin.gif
post #49 of 1073
Funny how so many threads quickly turn into Darbee threads! smile.gif
post #50 of 1073
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

Funny how so many threads quickly turn into Darbee threads! smile.gif

I don't darbee follow? This thread darbee is about discussing the darbee JVC new line darbee of projectors. I darbee don't think darbee I will be upgrading darbee this year myself. wink.gif
post #51 of 1073
The eshift2 has 5 setting for the eshift instead of 3 they had last year. Maybe there will be a more intense effect for smaller screens. I know it wasn't huge on my 100in screen but was noticeable on my 120in screen.
post #52 of 1073
I visited both JVC booths at CEDIA and the new RS48/55 will be the one that many of us will want to consider. They actually have two 48 models one with a 3
year warranty only sold by Dist. AVAD. The big changes are a new 4000 hour lamp made by a different supplier, Eshift 2 which is said to be improved and a improved optical engine. I viewed 3d and while it does seem somewhat better it is still not perfect with some ghosting observed. I was told that JVC is still working on this and these are prototypes so it is not fare to make a judgement at this point. I also saw the new emitter and 3DRF glasses. This new emitter and new glasses will work with the current JVC line. No prices were available for the emitter and glasses yet. I did not take pictures since the new models looks the same as last years models. The changes seem to have been made under the hood. One more thing the new lamp will not work with current models.
post #53 of 1073
I wonder if there will be a Hitler rants about JVC before the weekend :-D
post #54 of 1073
Does this mean this thread is officially over?biggrin.gif
post #55 of 1073
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

The RS55/W7000 combo might hold me over for a while. Now I can spring for the Captivator S2 sub with the dual 18 inch drivers i've had my eye on.. hehe

Dual 18s.......hell yeah!!! cool.gif

My plan is to stick with my 45 for 2d blu ray and will most likely add a benq 7000 for 3d, games, etc......and then throw a Darbee in for kicks. biggrin.gif
post #56 of 1073
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I visited both JVC booths at CEDIA and the new RS48/55 will be the one that many of us will want to consider. They actually have two 48 models one with a 3
year warranty only sold by Dist. AVAD. The big changes are a new 4000 hour lamp made by a different supplier, Eshift 2 which is said to be improved and a improved optical engine. I viewed 3d and while it does seem somewhat better it is still not perfect with some ghosting observed. I was told that JVC is still working on this and these are prototypes so it is not fare to make a judgement at this point. I also saw the new emitter and 3DRF glasses. This new emitter and new glasses will work with the current JVC line. No prices were available for the emitter and glasses yet. I did not take pictures since the new models looks the same as last years models. The changes seem to have been made under the hood. One more thing the new lamp will not work with current models.

Do you know if the old IR glasses will work with the new spec projectors?

I already have 4 IR JVC glasses...
post #57 of 1073
Yes, the old glasses will work but you also have to use the old emitter. I guess you could make a splitter cable like some made to use with the MV RF glasses this year
post #58 of 1073
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I viewed 3d and while it does seem somewhat better it is still not perfect with some ghosting observed. I was told that JVC is still working on this and these are prototypes so it is not fare to make a judgement at this point. .

I assume this comment by JVC was in reference to every JVC projector back to and including the RS40/50/60 as well as the new models? Maybe we can make a judgement next year if they can up the response time? Did they at least say what YEAR we can make a final judgment?












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post #59 of 1073
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Dual 18s.......hell yeah!!! cool.gif
My plan is to stick with my 45 for 2d blu ray and will most likely add a benq 7000 for 3d, games, etc......and then throw a Darbee in for kicks. biggrin.gif

Have u seen the w7000 yet?
post #60 of 1073
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

Have u seen the w7000 yet?

Unfortunately, no. I should try and track one down around town I suppose before taking the plunge! tongue.gif If I cant find one though to see in town, it sounds like Amazon's return policy makes trying one risk free if I did not like it by chance which is nice.
Edited by Toe - 9/6/12 at 5:18pm
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