Originally Posted by pentium7
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I would certainly be interested in someone running a comparison speed test with a PS3 to the 103 loading a disc. It was/is my understanding that the PS3 is still the fastest bluray player in terms of loading discs and getting to previews and menus etc due to its processor power. If the 103 beats the 790 and the PS3 then Oppo certainly will hold the crown of the best for a few more years at least, even if it is close it'll still win many more awards.
The problem with running a comparison like this is that there are certain elements of disc loading which run at fixed speed regardless of the player.
For example, non-skippable warning screens display for 10 seconds in any player. Or a non-skippable studio logo animation will run at the same speed in any player.
And some studios (I'm looking at YOU, Universal!) like to load preview/trailers and other forms of advertising over the Internet during disc loading. How long that takes depends on the speed of your Internet service -- again, distinct from the player. And some discs authored with BD-Java even download updates to their own BD-Java programming!
So all of this tends to mask the actual performance of the player itself.
I don't have a 790, so I'll have to limit my comments to the PS3. I have a FAT PS3 of the newer vintage after they deleted SACD playback capability.
In terms of Power UP, the 103, with its new Quick Start feature, easily trumps the PS3. I.e., 7 seconds from pressing the Power button to having Home Menu stable on the HDMI 1 output. Or to put it another way, if you use Tray Open to also Power UP the player, odds are the player will be fully powered up before you have time to stick the disc in the tray.
(The PS3 takes about 25 seconds to finish powering up, but that also includes automatic log in to the PS3 network.)
Here's an example disc loading test. The disc is "Kung Fu Panda", Blu-ray, which is authored with BD-Java and includes BD-Live functionality (both of which complicate disc loading). These timings are made from AFTER each player has finished powering up.
For the 103, I started the stop-watch when I pressed Tray Close to both close the Tray and initiate playback. For the PS3, I started the stop-watch when I inserted the disc into the slot loader -- which also initiated play. I.e., the physical process of loading the disc IS included in the timings in both cases.
This disc has a non-skippable DreamWorks animation logo that plays during disc loading. That is included in the timings since it can not be skipped, and thus makes the SLOWER player actually look better in terms of percentage timing difference.
In both cases I stopped the stop-watch when Top-Menu finished appearing and the Play button was highlighted at the lower left. The display of Top Menu also includes an animated sequence, so this IS included in the timings since it can not be skipped, and, once again, this biases the percentage difference in favor of the SLOWER player since of course both players play the animations at the same speed.
But this disc ALSO includes some preview/trailers that CAN be skipped by pressing Pop-up Menu at the right moment AFTER that initial, DreamWorks logo animation finishes. For both players I pressed Pop-up Menu the instant the Green ratings screen appeared for the first preview -- so the previews portion of the disc load timing is almost entirely excluded. This shortcut causes Top Menu to load next.
Wifi networking, and BD-Live processing where enabled in both players.
I ran both tests several times to make sure the results were repeatable. In the case of the 103 they WERE repeatable. In the case of the PS3, the FIRST try took longer. I believe the difference was that for the first try the PS3 took some time to go out on the network to retrieve artwork.Here are the results:
OPPO BDP-103: ALL TRIES 63 seconds
Sony PS3: FIRST TRY 97 seconds / SUBSEQUENT TRIES 88 seconds
--BobEdited by Bob Pariseau - 10/11/12 at 7:46am