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post #1711 of 2827
OPPO UK has added a place-holder photo for the BDP-105EU to their home page. No info yet -- just that it is expected "Late 2012".
--Bob
post #1712 of 2827
Question for those who know.

When selecting the "Best Output Resolution" on the BDP-103 Source Direct mode is recommended for high-end TVs. What make is considered high-end?

Would the Panasonic 65VT25 that I have connected be considered high-end?

Thanks
post #1713 of 2827
Thread Starter 
A television that does a better job at de-interlacing and scaling than the player would be considered "high-end". For most intents and purposes you should just use 1080p with 24Hz Output set to ON.
post #1714 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

A television that does a better job at de-interlacing and scaling than the player would be considered "high-end". For most intents and purposes you should just use 1080p with 24Hz Output set to ON.
Thanks, that's the way I have it setup now. Wanted to make sure I was getting the most out of the Oppo.
post #1715 of 2827
I put my BDP-95 up for $825. Here's why mine sold : I was asked by several people if I had the December 2011 (1219) firmware or earlier, which I did. These still have the ability to read ISO discs. I got the $825 +S&H+3% paypal I asked for and two people emailed me asking me to contact them if the sale didn't go through as they wanted it!

I guess the moral is if you have one DO NOT update the firmware past 1219. I should have asked for more $$$!

Now then, bring on the BDP-105!
post #1716 of 2827
yea, I've been seeing players go for more than MSRP
post #1717 of 2827
as far as TV's go, do you have to get the highest end to get the best PQ? I was looking at the new Sony XBRHX950 since it's the newest thing out there and I may get a new TV to go along with my potential oppo 105 purchase. Only, I don't care about smart TV features, google tv, wifi, speakers, the built in upscaling or built in 2d-3d conversions or other processing since they'll all be done on the OPPO. Soooo I would be paying a lot of money for features I probably wont even check out. So while the cheaper models don't have all those features, I'm guessing they also don't have the best PQ. Just wasn't sure if there was a more logical way to buy a TV when you're already paying for an (another) OPPO.
post #1718 of 2827
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Originally Posted by smonska View Post

I put my BDP-95 up for $825. Here's why mine sold : I was asked by several people if I had the December 2011 (1219) firmware or earlier, which I did. These still have the ability to read ISO discs. I got the $825 +S&H+3% paypal I asked for and two people emailed me asking me to contact them if the sale didn't go through as they wanted it!
I guess the moral is if you have one DO NOT update the firmware past 1219. I should have asked for more $$$!
Now then, bring on the BDP-105!

You got over 80% of what you paid (excluding fees and shipping) for a transport you got to enjoy. What other transport in this price range would have yielded 80%+ of its value after several months of use?smile.gif I could be wrong, but I can't imagine the offerings from Marantz and Denon retaining such a resale value.biggrin.gif Maybe the Cambridge.smile.gif
post #1719 of 2827
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post

as far as TV's go, do you have to get the highest end to get the best PQ? I was looking at the new Sony XBRHX950 since it's the newest thing out there and I may get a new TV to go along with my potential oppo 105 purchase. Only, I don't care about smart TV features, google tv, wifi, speakers, the built in upscaling or built in 2d-3d conversions or other processing since they'll all be done on the OPPO. Soooo I would be paying a lot of money for features I probably wont even check out. So while the cheaper models don't have all those features, I'm guessing they also don't have the best PQ. Just wasn't sure if there was a more logical way to buy a TV when you're already paying for an (another) OPPO.

IMHO There are 3 TV's with the best PQ. The Panasonic VT50 - great picture quality, very smooth motion. The Samsung and Elite LCD - bright, great blacks. Some people notice a jittery motion with LCDs and some do not. I'd see if you notice it and if you don't get an LCD. I notice it a little bit so I'm getting a plasma. A friend of mine is really sensitive to it and it makes him feel ill. I'd say (without actually taking a survey) at least 70% of people don't notice it or notice it enough to prefer plasma.
post #1720 of 2827
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post

as far as TV's go, do you have to get the highest end to get the best PQ? I was looking at the new Sony XBRHX950 since it's the newest thing out there and I may get a new TV to go along with my potential oppo 105 purchase. Only, I don't care about smart TV features, google tv, wifi, speakers, the built in upscaling or built in 2d-3d conversions or other processing since they'll all be done on the OPPO. Soooo I would be paying a lot of money for features I probably wont even check out. So while the cheaper models don't have all those features, I'm guessing they also don't have the best PQ. Just wasn't sure if there was a more logical way to buy a TV when you're already paying for an (another) OPPO.

I'd go with Panasonic VT50. It's the TV with the smoothest motion and for 24 fps blu-ray it does 4:4 pull-down.
post #1721 of 2827
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

IMHO There are 3 TV's with the best PQ. The Panasonic VT50 - great picture quality, very smooth motion. The Samsung and Elite LCD - bright, great blacks. Some people notice a jittery motion with LCDs and some do not. I'd see if you notice it and if you don't get an LCD. I notice it a little bit so I'm getting a plasma. A friend of mine is really sensitive to it and it makes him feel ill. I'd say (without actually taking a survey) at least 70% of people don't notice it or notice it enough to prefer plasma.
That's the SHARP Elite (small distinction, though I'm sure you know that and it was just an oversight). smile.gif
post #1722 of 2827
So which one is better oppo-93 or the new one?
If I had a chance to buy oppo bdp-93 should I go for it or buy the new one?
post #1723 of 2827
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Originally Posted by mjordan123456 View Post

So which one is better oppo-93 or the new one?
If I had a chance to buy oppo bdp-93 should I go for it or buy the new one?

If the Oppo 93 has firmware that supports ISO playback and that's important to you, that would be a strong selling point for the 93. Otherwise, the feature set of the 103 should be better overall than the 93.

That's also taking price out of the equation. It's baffling to me why people are paying close to the same price for a 93 as they could for a new 103, unless it's for ISO playback.
post #1724 of 2827
Because the 93 has mods available right now for region free playback and a lot of people in many other countries are using these players. So it isn't just ISO playback that isn't even the main selling point of the 93.
post #1725 of 2827
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post

yea, I've been seeing players go for more than MSRP
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Originally Posted by smonska View Post

I put my BDP-95 up for $825. Here's why mine sold : I was asked by several people if I had the December 2011 (1219) firmware or earlier, which I did. These still have the ability to read ISO discs. I got the $825 +S&H+3% paypal I asked for and two people emailed me asking me to contact them if the sale didn't go through as they wanted it. I guess the moral is if you have one DO NOT update the firmware past 1219. I should have asked for more $$$! Now then, bring on the BDP-105!
wow, you guys are really tempting me. My brand-new BDP-95 is still sitting here, sealed (never-opened), purchased a year ago. I'm sure it has the 1219 firmware.
post #1726 of 2827
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Originally Posted by pentium7 View Post

Because the 93 has mods available right now for region free playback and a lot of people in many other countries are using these players. So it isn't just ISO playback that isn't even the main selling point of the 93.

That makes sense if you have to buy an Oppo right now, but that's a temporary situation. The mod kits were available pretty soon after general release of the 93 and I would expect the same for the 103.

Don't get me wrong, my two 93's with ISO playback are much more valuable to me than a 103, and I wouldn't give them up for twice the price (ok, maybe I'd part with one for double what I paid biggrin.gif).
post #1727 of 2827
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

wow, you guys are really tempting me. My brand-new BDP-95 is still sitting here, sealed (never-opened), purchased a year ago. I'm sure it has the 1219 firmware.

That 95 with ISO playback will only get more valuable over time. There will never be another player like it.
post #1728 of 2827
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

That 95 with ISO playback will only get more valuable over time. There will never be another player like it.
+100...
post #1729 of 2827
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Originally Posted by jfz View Post

Would you be willing to tell me (us) how much you got for it?
Thanks!



I had a Oppo 971 DVD player that sold last year for more than I paid for it. That should give you an idea of the resale value of an Oppo.
post #1730 of 2827
First: if you're buying an AV component thinking about resale value, you're in the wrong hobby

Second: anybody buying a DVD player at that high a price these days are messed up in the brain biggrin.gif
post #1731 of 2827
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

That 95 with ISO playback will only get more valuable over time. There will never be another player like it.

That's why I got me one delivered yesterday afternoon. Didn't won't to wait for the 105. Then I was blessed and sold my bdp-83 in less than 20 minutes on ebay. Really enjoying the 95's sound and new features. Can only imagine how sweet the 95 is going sound after the 300 hour run-in.
post #1732 of 2827
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

First: if you're buying an AV component thinking about resale value, you're in the wrong hobby
Second: anybody buying a DVD player at that high a price these days are messed up in the brain biggrin.gif

Exception to the rule?
post #1733 of 2827
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post #1734 of 2827
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

That 95 with ISO playback will only get more valuable over time. There will never be another player like it.

Man too bad you can't turn back the firm on these things, any hacks out there rolleyes.gif

Djoel
post #1735 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Man too bad you can't turn back the firm on these things, any hacks out there rolleyes.gif
Djoel
I think you can find some hacks online describing how to return your oppo 95 to a firmware that can handle iso.
post #1736 of 2827
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

I think you can find some hacks online describing how to return your oppo 95 to a firmware that can handle iso.


Hm, I looked online didn't get much.Cool there's talk about it...

Djoel
post #1737 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Man too bad you can't turn back the firm on these things, any hacks out there rolleyes.gif
Djoel

Oh, so one cannot go to a previous version of the firmware which has ISO ability you're saying for 93/95?
post #1738 of 2827
Dear OPPO... Where's the 105? Can't hold my breath much longer!!wink.gif
post #1739 of 2827
Thread Starter 
Later-November or early-December is the last I heard.
post #1740 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Sango View Post

Oh, so one cannot go to a previous version of the firmware which has ISO ability you're saying for 93/95?

Dunno....

Djoel
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