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post #2281 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Sure, but OPPO haven't put out any statement on how it's done on the 95 EITHER!
--Bob

Shucks! Lawyers!tongue.gif

post #2282 of 2827
^ You should also know that if you just ask them directly, they'll likely blab all the details. Then we CAN talk about it.
--Bob
post #2283 of 2827
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Bob:

Regarding the two stereo modes(STEREO = LF/RF  &  STEREO = DownMixed), is this switching done before the DACs in the digital domain(where all necessary processing would be done) or after the dacs, where a mechanical relays switch between the multi-channel LF/RF or dedicated stereo analog output signals.

Before DACs...
post #2284 of 2827
Dear OPPO - Once again, please bring on the 105. It would be great to play with a new toy over the long Thanksgiving weekend. I promised to be a customer for life smile.gif
post #2285 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Maison View Post

Dear OPPO - Once again, please bring on the 105. It would be great to play with a new toy over the long Thanksgiving weekend. I promised to be a customer for life smile.gif

biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif Nice post...
post #2286 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Maison View Post

Dear OPPO - Once again, please bring on the 105. It would be great to play with a new toy over the long Thanksgiving weekend. I promised to be a customer for life smile.gif

Maybe, they are waiting for a FW that will fix some of the current issues. You are paying $1200.00.
post #2287 of 2827
I can't wait for the opp 115, switchable tube, ss preamp, 9 sabre 9018's, one for each channel. I know what you're thinking, there's only stereo and 7.1. That's right, eight, but don't forget the dedicated 9018 for the DOLBY HEADPHONE headphone output! It tells you good night too.
post #2288 of 2827
Apesma, that looks very nice,.....and not an option here price wise, just like the Zana Deux lol
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How well regarded are the Oppo players as multi-channel processors? I am currently using a B&K Reference 50 S2, Anthem PVA-7 power amp, and Swan Diva 6.2 speakers with Swan speakers for surrounds. Subwoofer is a REL Stentor III. I spent a few weeks with an Anthem D2 and Integra DHC 80.3 and the B&K just does not compare. I am looking to get better surround sound performance by hooking up the Oppo BDP-105 Analog outputs to my B&K analog inputs. Would I see a noticeable increase in multi-channel performance with the Oppo instead of using my B&K for audio processing? The difference between the B&K and the Integra was big, and the difference between the B&K and Anthem was colossal. What can I expect from the Oppo? I will likely get the 105 for its dedicated DAC. I like the idea and simplicity of having 1 box to do several things. I will invest in a much better DAC for headphone listening with Sennhsier HD800 or Audeze LCD3.

I am just concerned that I am trying to polish a turd here with my B&K. I want to make sure the Oppo will present a solid improvement in sound quality while still using my B&K as a Pre-amp, but not a processor. My source material will be Blu Ray and mostly MKV files from a storage location. Audio will be lots of Hi-Resolution FLAC.
post #2290 of 2827
I am personally buying the oppo because of the DAC's. I've never been so excited about a piece of gear. The 105 and 95 offer so much in some ways more than others. The biggest thing to me is the 9018 for multichannel listening and decoding of all the necessary processing like dolby master. It has nothing that it doesn't need and because of that, you spend a lot less money.
post #2291 of 2827
if someone could plug their laptop via hdmi to the 103 and play some audio and video files and maybe a youtube vid and let us know how it went that would be very nice of you. Thanks
post #2292 of 2827
does it work like that? I thought it usually only works usb or optical
post #2293 of 2827
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Originally Posted by bthrb4u View Post

does it work like that? I thought it usually only works usb or optical

Yes, for both players, assuming the laptop offers an HDMI output producing audio format and video resolution the player supports.
post #2294 of 2827
^ If the laptop has an HDMI output and is outputting supported audio and video, there's no reason it shouldn't work.
post #2295 of 2827
Nice, now i don't have to build a new computer with an upgraded sound card with coax out to run my spotify and jriver to the oppo when get it. I can just transfer all my music to my girls laptop and hook it to the oppo via hdmi to use the DAC functionality of the player ....all smiles:D
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This if for the folks who already own the BDP-95 and buying the new 105: Are you gonna sell your BDP-95? I'm thinking of holding on to mine since it's the last Oppo player that has component output. Could it be worth more a year or two down the line since no new players will have component?
post #2297 of 2827
I'm keeping my 95 especially for the analog sound. I'll probably wait a while to get another Oppo player. Just to see how the reviews come in about the 105. Later!
post #2298 of 2827
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

^ If the laptop has an HDMI output and is outputting supported audio and video, there's no reason it shouldn't work.

thats one of the main purposes of this new product isn't? Sort of a media hub. it's gotta work.
post #2299 of 2827
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

This if for the folks who already own the BDP-95 and buying the new 105: Are you gonna sell your BDP-95? I'm thinking of holding on to mine since it's the last Oppo player that has component output. Could it be worth more a year or two down the line since no new players will have component?

On the one had: yes, because the players will become more scarce.

On the other: no, because the population of people who need component is declining with time.

I don't know which trend will predominate.

The -95 is also Cinavia-free, which matters to some people.

-Bill
post #2300 of 2827
from what i have read, asynchronous usb still is prone to jitter. I would imagine you don't have to worry about that with hdmi
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Thread Starter 
HDMI is far worse jitter wise than any other digital distribution format. You should choose USB whenever possible.
post #2302 of 2827
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Originally Posted by bthrb4u View Post

from what i have read, asynchronous usb still is prone to jitter. I would imagine you don't have to worry about that with hdmi

The whole idea with Asynchronous USB is to eliminate Jitter. (The clock at the receiving end controls instead of at the sending end.)

On the other hand, if you want to use multi-channel digital audio from your Source, HDMI will likely be MUCH better than the Optical/Coax S/PDIF inputs. (The Asynchronous USB input is limited to Stereo LPCM.)

NOTE: Jitter is not an issue on the "normal" USB ports used for attaching hard drives. What's going across those cables are files, not audio.
--Bob
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BDP-105 specifications state a height of 12,3mm, does anyone know please know if this height includes the big rubber feet?
Thank you
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Thread Starter 
Yes, the height includes the feet.
post #2305 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Yes, the height includes the feet.
Could the feet be replaced with lower ones without compromising the unit? How tall are they?
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Thread Starter 
You could remove the feet altogether if you want, or probably install after market feet without any real problems or limitations.
post #2307 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The whole idea with Asynchronous USB is to eliminate Jitter. . . . . On the other hand, if you want to use multi-channel digital audio from your Source, HDMI will likely be MUCH better than the Optical/Coax S/PDIF inputs. (The Asynchronous USB input is limited to Stereo LPCM.)
--Bob


Wait a minute, Bob ---

I, like a few others, have a 2.1 system for music --- two monitor-sized front L & R speakers, and a subwoofer. In order to keep everything in the analog domain from my Oppo 83SE to my Marantz receiver, with no further D-to-A or A-to-D conversion, I use the MCH FR, FL and SW analog outputs on my Oppo 83SE to the corresponding MCH analog inputs on my Marantz receiver.

I am considering upgrading to the new Oppo 105, when available.

In your quoted statement above, are you saying that I should abandon the all-analog route and move to HDMI, or are you referring only to situations where the Oppo-105 is to be used as an outboard DAC for some other source machine?

Thanks,

Howard
post #2308 of 2827
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Originally Posted by zindra View Post

Could the feet be replaced with lower ones without compromising the unit? How tall are they?
Are you asking because you're tight on vertical space in your cabinet? Keep in mind that the 105 has vents on the top that need at least some room to breathe.
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Are you asking because you're tight on vertical space in your cabinet? Keep in mind that the 105 has vents on the top that need at least some room to breathe.
I have a shelve which is 12cm high, open back and front. Do you please know how tall is the 105 without the big feet? If it's around 10cm and I can use smaller feet maybe I can get about 2cm clearance on top, would this be enough? I've looked at some pictures of the 105 and havent's noticed the holes on top for ventilation, maybe the pictures were of a prototype?
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Originally Posted by haverbach View Post


Wait a minute, Bob ---
I, like a few others, have a 2.1 system for music --- two monitor-sized front L & R speakers, and a subwoofer. In order to keep everything in the analog domain from my Oppo 83SE to my Marantz receiver, with no further D-to-A or A-to-D conversion, I use the MCH FR, FL and SW analog outputs on my Oppo 83SE to the corresponding MCH analog inputs on my Marantz receiver.
I am considering upgrading to the new Oppo 105, when available.
In your quoted statement above, are you saying that I should abandon the all-analog route and move to HDMI, or are you referring only to situations where the Oppo-105 is to be used as an outboard DAC for some other source machine?
Thanks,
Howard

 

Howard,

 

The BDP95 and 105 have an excellent jitter eliminating dacs, the ESS9018. Do not worry about jitter as its so low. Look at the jitter plots from the XLR outputs in the attached test report.

 

Oppo 95 Review.pdf 4,793k .pdf file

 

The other thing is that output HDMI signals from a source device are internally buffered by the internal HDMI receiver chips inside the AVR FIFO memry and are re-clocked by another internal output clock from within the AVR into the audio codec DSPs which then feed output AVR dacs. This is the place i'd worry about jitter(if its a valid worry) as its the last stage before the signal is converted to analog.

 

- David


Edited by dmusoke - 11/12/12 at 3:15pm
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