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post #2371 of 2827
how can a Ayre DX-5 cost 10,000 dollars or whatever it is and the 105 is 1200. Funny..
post #2372 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

I know a lot of you are planning on plugging your 105 straight into to your amps. Just hoping the output level has enough gain to sound good for you and not sound too thin! I need the switching features and LCD screen of my pre-pro. Back in the day I borrowed a Mark Levinson 390s and plugged it into my Levinson 335 amplifier. The sound was fantastic but I lost all the other functions I needed. I was using an Audio Research LS25 MKII to compare the 390s so there was not a huge difference as I suspect those with higher end processors or preamps will discover. Me personally I am going to just connect the HDMI 1 for Blu Ray movie playback and connect the XLR for analogue CD playback. I am using a Classe SSP-800 as my pre-pro. I am so hoping that this player sounds as good or even better than my Ayre CX-7e CD player.wink.gif

I'd be very interested to hear a comparison of BDP-95 or BDP-105 direct to power amps vs. any Blu-Ray via HDMI to your SSP-800.

The SSP-800 is one Pre/Pro that I would love to try out here at home - as soon as the used price drops down around 4000-4500 I might purchase - of course by then, it will *only* do 7.1 channel and the new Oppo will do 11.1 channel - or whatever smile.gif
post #2373 of 2827
OPPO UK has updated the Manual for the BDP-105EU *YET AGAIN* today.

Collect them all!

But wait! There's more!

OPPO UK has ALSO updated their downloadable ZIP file of Hi-res Photos of the BDP-105EU.

Lots more shots of the new player in revealing poses!

Both are available from the Downloads section of the OPPO UK site:

http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/customer-services/downloads/

--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 11/13/12 at 1:43pm
post #2374 of 2827
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Originally Posted by OtherSongs View Post

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A key thing I want is improved playback of high quality 5.1 and stereo files (both .wav and .flac in both hi-rez and 16/44.1 format) via an external 2.5" USB HDD.

AFAICT the playback from an external 2.5" USB HDD is the same as that of the older OPPO 93/95 players.

Meaning that the whole thing about the new 105 unit's asynchronous USB capability does not seem to apply to playback from an external 2.5" USB HDD.

Am I correct in thinking that music file playback from an external 2.5" USB HDD is buffered by the 105/103/95/93 OPPO players, and therefore not an issue with regard to jitter?

And BTW one or more refs (re music file playback from an external 2.5" USB HDD), would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. smile.gif

Yes, that's correct. What comes off the hard drive is files that are buffered on input and decoded in the player. Jitter can not become a factor until AFTER they are decoded -- at which point you are dealing with the internal signal path/clocking INSIDE the player between the decoder and the player's DACs for conversion to Analog output.

So as far as file transfer "correctness", there is no difference between these 4 players. Now, the newer players support more media file types, and of course there are differences in the Analog output stage. But in terms of the question you are asking, any difference you hear between the newer and older players will not be due to any sort of improved "correctness" in the way the data is being input from the hard drive.
--Bob
post #2375 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Lotus00 View Post

how can a Ayre DX-5 cost 10,000 dollars or whatever it is and the 105 is 1200. Funny..


Which is exactly why I didn't get sucked into buying one. My local dealer had one to borrow but I never took him up on the offer! I read a user review that changed my mind, plus too steep of a price although the unit is well constucted and sounds good. I just figured Oppo would eventually adapt some of Charles Hansen's ideas that he put into the 83 when he converted it to the DX-5. The 105 has done that by improving the power supply along with better isolation and chassis construction than the older units. I have been doing this for sometime as have many of you and they key is waiting which in itself is the hardest thing to do when you want it now.
post #2376 of 2827
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Originally Posted by RickS View Post

I placed my order with OPPO this morning for a 105 with rack mount. They said it would be shipping today and would be 2-3 weeks before the Canadian supplier would see theirs.....so, since I can't wait that long.... smile.gif ..... mine will be here sooner!

Just to confirm, OPPO told you that THE NEW RACK MOUNT for the BDP-105 would also ship today?

I haven't read over all the new posts in this thread yet this afternoon, but that may be the first confirmation we have that the new Rack Mount specific to the BDP-105 is in stock.
--Bob
post #2377 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

What FW version is the 105 shipping with?

It will almost certainly ship with the current, Official, 1018 firmware. Expect firmware updates shortly thereafter.
--Bob
post #2378 of 2827
With those "lots" (few) more picture of inside BDP105, it become enough clear that the AC coupling output use (polarised) 100µF/16v caps...


Edited by Coris - 11/13/12 at 2:13pm
post #2379 of 2827
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I'm assuming you meant to write "the BDP-105 can double as both player and pre-pro".
For your purposes, I believe they should give you equal results as long as ARC from your TV works properly.
You can reassign the dedicated stereo outs to be FL / FR for the multichannel outs in this scenario so you can still take advantage of the better dedicated stereo outputs. So adding a subwoofer shouldn't create any issues.

Yes, I meant 105 - edited post.
So the dedicated stereo outs can be assigned LT/RT?

When used separately, the Dedicated Stereo Outputs get a "Stereo" down-mix, with LFE content discarded. This is not adjustable.

When re-configured for use in place of the normal LF/RF outputs of the multi-channel set, the Dedicated Stereo Outputs respond to all the settings that normally apply to the multi-channel Analog output set. So, for example, you can change them to an LT/RT style down-mix if that's what you want.
--Bob
post #2380 of 2827
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Originally Posted by FMD View Post

Hi Bob,
I just ordered mine and plan to use in a 2 channel system for CD's/SACD/etc only (replacing a mid 90's Rega Planet).

Can you tell me the optimal player settings for Analog out to preamp via RCA?

Thank you

I recommend you use the Dedicated Stereo RCA output jacks in their normal configuration. If you want, you can set SACD Output DSD while playing the Stereo layer of your SACDs. (There's no down-mix while doing that, so if you play the 5.1 layer you'll loose the other channels -- use SACD Output PCM if you want to play those.)

You should also set HDCD Decoding ON.
--Bob
post #2381 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

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When re-configured for use in place of the normal LF/RF outputs of the multi-channel set, the Dedicated Stereo Outputs respond to all the settings that normally apply to the multi-channel Analog output set. So, for example, you can change them to an LT/RT style down-mix if that's what you want.

Would I then still be getting the higher quality output of the dedicated stereo outs vs that of the mutil-channel set?

Thanks,

Chris
post #2382 of 2827
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

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When re-configured for use in place of the normal LF/RF outputs of the multi-channel set, the Dedicated Stereo Outputs respond to all the settings that normally apply to the multi-channel Analog output set. So, for example, you can change them to an LT/RT style down-mix if that's what you want.

Would I then still be getting the higher quality output of the dedicated stereo outs vs that of the mutil-channel set?

Thanks,

Chris

For the LF/RF channels, the signal would be going through the Stereo Analog output board. For the other channels the signal would be going through the multi-channel Analog output board.
--Bob
post #2383 of 2827
MusicDirect.com has just updated their Availability date for the BDP-105 to Tuesday, November 20:

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-107530-oppo-bdp-105-universal-blu-ray-player.aspx

--Bob
post #2384 of 2827
Has anyone who ordered last night received a shipping notice yet or seen status change to "in packing" ?
post #2385 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Greg121986 View Post


You're working with some high quality stuff there... I can't imagine you would receive any benefit with the Oppo other than using it as an optical disc transport.
I am worried about the output levels. I'm still skeptical about the Oppo's ability as a pre-amp. I will try it both ways.

Why the concern about Oppo's output levels? Its rated at 2.1Vrms max for the RCA outputs and 4.2Vrms max for the XLR outputs . These levelsare plenty enough to drive most power amps to full rated power and beyond with no problem. My Sunfire 7-channel 400W amp is rated to produce full power at 1.9V on its input RCA and 0.95V at its XLR inputs, well within the Oppo output range.

 

Please look at the input sensitivity level specs of your power amps. If they are within the Oppo output range, then you'll have nothing to worry about.

post #2386 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

MusicDirect.com has just updated their Availability date for the BDP-105 to Tuesday, November 20:
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-107530-oppo-bdp-105-universal-blu-ray-player.aspx
--Bob

 

And for those of us in tax crazy california, you save $93 in sales tax and pay less than $30 fedex ground shipping...

post #2387 of 2827
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And for those of us in tax crazy california, you save $93 in sales tax and pay less than $30 fedex ground shipping...
How much are your taxes in Cal. ? I pay 13% tax here
post #2388 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Roger Mathus View Post

Has anyone who ordered last night received a shipping notice yet or seen status change to "in packing" ?

No, but Oppo called me to confirm some order details and said they will start shipping probably Wed.

Best notice will be your tracking number email!!
post #2389 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Donloz View Post


How much are your taxes in Cal. ? I pay 13% tax here

 

God bless you all Canucks, you simply must love your taxessmile.gif! You didn't have to fight the Brits over taxes as we did. Its just our nature to bristle over taxes we view as excessive or unnecessarytongue.gif.

post #2390 of 2827
OPPO has hit my VISA so it looks like things are moving along. The idea of using the 105 as a pre/pro is very intriguing. Only drawback I can see is not being able to apply synthesized surround to discs of old movies or tv programs with mono sound tracks. Same for standard tv.
post #2391 of 2827
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Originally Posted by elphillips View Post

OPPO has hit my VISA so it looks like things are moving along. The idea of using the 105 as a pre/pro is very intriguing. Only drawback I can see is not being able to apply synthesized surround to discs of old movies or tv programs with mono sound tracks. Same for standard tv.

I think you can use the Neo6 option to add Neo6 Music or Neo6 Movie to other sources.
post #2392 of 2827
now we just need a trigger output to turn our power amps on when the 105 comes on!
post #2393 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Roger Mathus View Post

Has anyone who ordered last night received a shipping notice yet or seen status change to "in packing" ?

I just got my notice to pick up the unit tomorrow at mountain view California, next to one if my favorite birding spot.
post #2394 of 2827
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Originally Posted by zoomin View Post

I think you can use the Neo6 option to add Neo6 Music or Neo6 Movie to other sources.

Thanks zoomin. Found it in the manual.
post #2395 of 2827
Will the 105 decode HDCD through the USB digital input? I have searched and searched and never been able to find anything on it. I ordered one this morning and am really hoping it will do it.
post #2396 of 2827
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Originally Posted by bobdoggy View Post

Will the 105 decode HDCD through the USB digital input? I have searched and searched and never been able to find anything on it. I ordered one this morning and am really hoping it will do it.
Interesting question! I haven't tried it. My guess would be no, as no decoding happens on that Asynchronous USB Input.

HDCD decoding does happen on the HDMI Inputs, but I don't think there is any processing between the Asynchronous USB and the DACs.
--Bob
post #2397 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Interesting question! I haven't tried it. My guess would be no, as no decoding happens on that Asynchronous USB Input.
HDCD decoding does happen on the HDMI Inputs, but I don't think there is any processing between the Asynchronous USB and the DACs.
--Bob

I was under the impression that the decoding usually happens in the dac or in the filters. I am aware of a few USB DACs that do decode HDCD I am really hoping this one does.
post #2398 of 2827
Ordered my 105 today. So excited that after 80 pages of posts on this thread we will soon get to hear from actual owners and consumers. Here's wishing all the anticipation lives up to the hype. The 105 is for my Home Theater room to maximize a new plasma. If it lifts that set up like the 95 has done for my stereo room, I'll be thrilled!
post #2399 of 2827
^ But in the OPPO players, HDCD decoding happens before the DAC, as evidenced by the fact that the result, post-decoding, is available on the HDMI output (LPCM 2.0 44.1 KHz 20-bit, packed into 24-bit with padding zeroes).
--Bob
post #2400 of 2827
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post


For LPCM, the Optical/Coax S/PDIF Inputs are limited to 2.0 channels, and to 96KHz 24-bit.

--Bob

That being the case, would it be correct to say the LPCM 2.0 bitrate limit for Optical/Coax/S/PDIF input is 4.608Mbps?
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