Official OPPO BDP-103/BDP-105 Anticipation Thread - Page 81

Now I am REALLY anticipating

Styln

OPPO Digital has just posted the Windows 7 / Windows XP Driver for use with the Asynchronous USB DAC Input of the BDP-105:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-105/blu-ray-BDP-105-Support.aspx

Note that no driver is needed for Mac users. No driver is currently available for Windows 8 or LINUX users.
--Bob

I'd be surprised if a driver was needed for Linux. Most Linux systems support USB audio class 2 natively like OS X does. Windows doesn't so it needs a driver.

Hi Bob,
They told me that the rack mounts would ship with the 105. They charged me for it...so I hope so.

Sorry for sounding "newbish" here.

I'm using a stereo setup : Naim Uniti audio-only receiver without any HDMI input and a SONY Hd Tv with a DVI video HDCP input.

- Would a HDM- to-DVI cable be able to send Video fron Oppo 103 to the TV ?


-Could the STEREO downmix layer of a SACD be transmited via the optical output to the Naim ? At a big quality loss?

Would it be inferior to the CD layer of a SACD via optical output ?

-I saw this on the Oppo site : ''For simple and easy connection to more traditional A/V receivers, the BDP-103 features both optical and coaxial outputs for digital audio." Does it mean that the SACD can be outputted that way ?

-If not, what about the loss of quality from a stereo downmix of the 5.1 analog output ?


Thanks

^ The Stereo track on many SACDs is not a down-mix. It is, rather, a distinct, stereo mix -- designed for that purpose.

However, the licensing for the SACD format prohibits transmission over Optical/Coax S/PDIF digital audio connectors -- basically because of the lack of copy protection. So you will not be able to play SACD over either Optical or Coax, even for the Stereo track from those discs.

Playing SACD over the OPPO's Analog outputs should sound excellent. The other alternative is HDMI digital audio.
--Bob

For those living in Mountain View CA, there is also a pickup option that would save you $18.

I stopped by the Mountain View facility around 2pm today (Tuesday) hoping to pick mine up. Unfortunately I was too early they hadn't received the units to ship yet.

The (very nice) man I talked to said if I came back at 5, I'd probably be the first to get one. I'll have to settle for tomorrow morning though.

He did say that they would likely be there late this evening shipping the first lot of units. Anyone manage to pick theirs up this evening?

Very true indeed. Audio Advisor has zero sales tax and zero shipping for any item $99 or over, but have to wait 7-10 days for your Oppo. But the base price of their Oppo is not $1199 but $1209 instead, ten dollars more than what Oppo charges.

 

BTW, i have NO affliliation with AA or any other Oppo resellers whatsoever....

So now that the 105 is shipping, when are you folks starting the BDP-105 Owner's Thread?

Hi , like to know if anyone woulld believe that the OPPO 105 would be an upgrade to my Denon 5910?

I already have a OPPO 93 in the rack for BLU RAY, but as a musician, love to listen to all the universal audio formats? I believe I would want to run the OPPO 105 digitally, because my Anthem ARC correction in my D2 works only in the digital domain?

So how does the analog section help me in this regard, if I want to use room correction?

And does anybody have an experience in knowing if it sound better than the 5910?

The analog improvements of the 105 would have no impact if you used it digitally. Your processor would be doing all the decoding and conversion to analog. If you are using your 5910 digitally, it is your processor you are hearing, not the 5910's DACs.

THanks I understand. BUT, i have the Denon hooked up both analog and HDMI digital. The analog hook up is from the past and I just upgraded from a Anthem D1 (no HDMI) to a Anthem D2 with HDMI switching. THe D2 has the ability to run it in Analog Direct or Analog DSP so im still not sure which set up is best. But again if I dont use digital I lose room correction since it is onbaord the preamp.

Does anyone know how improved the Analog secction would be over my 6 year old Denon 5910 player? Thanks

I'm not familiar with the D2 but Bob Pariseau seems to be an expert on it. If the D2 takes the 5910's analog out and re-digitizes it for room correction then there might be some differences which Bob should be able to comment on.

I don't have the 103 but do have the 83SE which uses the immediate predecessor to the DAC in the 105 (though the 105 also has other improvements lacking in the 83SE). I had the Denon 5900 (the 5910's predecessor). The analog out of the 83SE is much better than what I heard from the 5900. If the 5910's audio was essentially the same as the 5900's, I would expect the 105's analog performance to be much, much better.

The 83se was compared to the 95 with the same result too. Lately, I have been comparing Oppo 103 HDMI with Anthem ARC Music 2.0 on vs Oppo 83se Analog 2.0. I really with like both setups. Sometime, I can't tell if I am listening to dig with ARC or analog.

If I could distinguish what setup I am listening to clearly, I don't mind spending the extra money. I am not sure.
Edited by Brian-HD - 11/14/12 at 8:48am

Maybe, they will price match base price.

From a quick look at the D2 manual it has XLR Balanced stereo inputs so you can take advantage of the 105's balanced XLR outputs, the D2 also has 5.1 multichannel inputs so you can take advantage of the 105's multichannel analog outputs although you will be missing surround backs since the D2 only has 5.1 inputs instead of 7.1 like the Oppo. The Oppo will however downmix 7.1 channel content for situations just like yours.

I am not familiar with the Denon unit but I would speculate that the Oppo 105's new DACs would be your best option considering in addition it also has the latest video processing. Hopefully the D2 will let you passthrough the Oppo's video signal like it will the audio using stereo or 5.1 multi channel.

The Oppo has a speaker setup section for multi channel so you can account for any corrections needed through their setup menu for things like distance, level, and speaker size.

I would definately take advantage of Oppo's 30 day money back guarantee to check things out for yourself. If you don't hear or see a difference then you are only out shipping!

So, I just got a BDP-105 shipping confirmation from Oppo and it should be here tomorrow PM (I'm the last person on my rural UPS route). Thinking about ordering another one as no retailers have them in stock yet ('cept ebay) nor will anyone say how long...is it illegal to sell these for profit? I was thinking...buy 2, sell 1 to offset the price of the other one.

For those planning to use the 105 as a pre/pro you will need to turn down the volume after going from fixed to variable as the 105 will be at full volume. The 105 provides OSD for volume.

Got it. Thank you.

Howard

What? You can resell anything you own at whatever price the buyer will pay.

I tell everyone that ebay is a "seller's market" and the prices are often curiously high there.

-Bill

I asked a question to Oppo support regarding running the Oppo BDP-105 directly to my Anthem PVA-7 power amp. I just wanted to share their response. In a nutshell, they said it's going to be fine. Also, they seem to have ignored my question regarding Linux** file systems.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Edited by Greg121986 - 11/14/12 at 11:37am

FAT and NTFS only when directly attached.

With DLNA or SMB it's up to the server.

-Bill

In your case the question is cloudy. But, I think it's very unlikely the 105 would make sense for you. Unless the sound you're getting from the 5910, running through the D2 on a pure analog basis with no DRC, is better than using HDMI from the 5910 to the D2 with DRC, then you're using your 5910 as nothing more than a transport. In such a case moving to the 105 would more than likely do nothing to improve your two channel listening. But if you prefer the pure analog sound and no DRC using your current equipment, the question then becomes if the DAC in the 105 would be superior to the DAC in the 5910. I would tend to think the 105 would have the edge, but it's probably pretty close.

I have a dedicated and heavily treated room. I much prefer to listen to two channel with no room correction. So in my case the question of which DAC is better, the 5910 or the 105, is relevent. But the large majority of members here on AVS report better results sending the signal to their AVP in the digital domain to take advantage of DRC. If you fell in with the majority, the 103 would be a better fit for you.

The one thing you absolutely don't want to do is to send an analog signal to the D2 and use DRC. All you're doing is an unnecessary A/D/A convertion.

This technically exists on the 95/105 actually. The USB jacks have 5V present in them. You need a USB to 1/8" headphone adapter. 5V will trigger most HT equipment's "12V" trigger.

THanks Egrady

My 105 is now: "Order shipped" by FedEx.Ground Home.

Checking my bellwether resellers in the UK, both Audiocom International and Ideal AV now show they have the European model, BDP-105EU players "In Stock".

So evidently the European players are also shipping!
--Bob

I believe if you use Quick Start mode in the 103/105, the USB sockets may remain powered even while the player is in stand-by "Off". I've not checked this in general, but that's certainly the case for whichever USB socket you have the Wifi dongle plugged into.
--Bob

I was getting a little angst because I hadn't gotten a confirmation e-mail, so I shot Oppo an inquiry. As usual they responded quickly and I got the good news that it was shipped yesterday. Should be here for the weekend. Much happy now.