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January 2013 issue of Home Theater magazine, David Vaughn reviews the BDP-103. http://www.hometheater.com/content/oppo-bdp-103-blu-ray-3d-player
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I really miss the option to be able to delete files. To be sure I wasnt missing anything I asked on a Dutch forum as well where people confirmed and agreed that this option is missing and would be very useful indeed. Even on PS3 you can delete files. I hope someone in here with the right connections can forward this idea to Oppo? Or maybe we should send an email and hopefully when they get enough requests they will implement this feature?
post #2703 of 2827
Long time viewer, first time post.

I am in the market for a new universal player and have been eyeing a new Oppo. That said I am torn on the difference between the 103,and the 105. My preamp has the ability to accept XLR balanced inputs. I have never used them and am wondering how much of a difference there will be between XLR and RCA??

Can anyone in the know advise if the 105 is worth the extra investment to obtain XLR outputs?
post #2704 of 2827
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Originally Posted by CDubya View Post

Long time viewer, first time post.
I am in the market for a new universal player and have been eyeing a new Oppo. That said I am torn on the difference between the 103,and the 105. My preamp has the ability to accept XLR balanced inputs. I have never used them and am wondering how much of a difference there will be between XLR and RCA??
Can anyone in the know advise if the 105 is worth the extra investment to obtain XLR outputs?
If you are going to use the analog audio outs (XLR or RCA), then the 105 has better audio DACs so you should hear a significant difference for AQ (depending on your other equipment such as preamp and speakers). If you are gong to use digital audio (HDMI), then just get the 103. PQ is the same with both players.
post #2705 of 2827
Thanks for the information. I am running decent equipment (Anthem D2, Rotel Amp, out to B+W 804S). If there is really that much of a difference I am thinking I may need to spring for the 105.

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post #2706 of 2827
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

I recently started using the 105 as a pre/pro as well. What I really miss is the volume control on the unit itself. Sometimes I have the system on loud volume and the phone rings. And this is when I can't find the remote to turn down the music. I really miss being able to walk up to the unit and use it's volume knob to turn it down quickly!

Your marantz preamp also has a preamplifier function that increases output voltage. That way your amps work less harder. The oppo on full volume can output only 4V . Normally preamps output anywhere between 16 to 20V. In my case I tried going that route to my JC-1's and sound totally fell apart and When I put in a preamp the sound got elevated to a new level and it was not subtle. Again All this depends on the impedance matching and the resolving power of your system.
post #2707 of 2827
I recently purchase the oppo bdp 103,I tried to play mkv file from my portable hard drive. It worked fine but when i switched from the portable hard drive to the desktop hard drive( Seagate back up plus)
it's keep saying " No Disc" . Any suggestion?
post #2708 of 2827
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Originally Posted by plakapook View Post

I recently purchase the oppo bdp 103,I tried to play mkv file from my portable hard drive. It worked fine but when i switched from the portable hard drive to the desktop hard drive( Seagate back up plus)
it's keep saying " No Disc" . Any suggestion?

Post this on the BDP-103 Owners Thread. I am pretty sure the forum members will be able to help you sort this out.smile.gif
post #2709 of 2827
how is it that Oppo's list price for the BDP-105 is $1199.00, and Crutchfield's asking price is $1219.00?
post #2710 of 2827
Because Crutchfield decided to mark it up slightly as have some other Oppo authorized sellers.
post #2711 of 2827
probably been asked before but are the analog audio sections exactly equal between, both, the BDP-95 and the BDP-105? Also, do both share the same rigid chassis and disc drive designs?
post #2712 of 2827
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

how is it that Oppo's list price for the BDP-105 is $1199.00, and Crutchfield's asking price is $1219.00?

This is almost the equivalent (actually cheaper) of the BDP-105 shipped from Oppo. Also, Crutchfield has a 60 day return policy and they pay the return shipping?smile.gif
post #2713 of 2827
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

probably been asked before but are the analog audio sections exactly equal between, both, the BDP-95 and the BDP-105? Also, do both share the same rigid chassis and disc drive designs?

The BDP-105 has a different design and layout from the BDP-95. Also, the case is slightly larger. You can get better information from the BDP-105 owners thread.
post #2714 of 2827
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

how is it that Oppo's list price for the BDP-105 is $1199.00, and Crutchfield's asking price is $1219.00?
Actually if you are in California you have to add the tax +$100.42 and shipping +$18 and I was about a mile for Oppo office.
post #2715 of 2827
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Originally Posted by tranle View Post

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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

how is it that Oppo's list price for the BDP-105 is $1199.00, and Crutchfield's asking price is $1219.00?
Actually if you are in California you have to add the tax +$100.42 and shipping +$18 and I was about a mile for Oppo office.

Exact reason why i bought mine from Crutchfield and ship to SoCal....

post #2716 of 2827
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Originally Posted by elphillips View Post

I've had my 105 in operation for three weeks now. As mentioned in a previous post I'm using it as my pre/pro. It replaces a Marantz AV8003. I realized that the only functions this $2,500 pre/pro was performing in the system was switching between broadcast tv and playing discs in addition to volume control. I'm sure the DACs in the 105 are as good as the Marantz, if not better. So what I'm I missing taking the Marantz out of the system? No radio tuner. Never used it. For background music during the day I use the cable music channels. No Accustic EQ. Never used that either. No Audyssey. Tape measure and trusty old Radio Shack SPL meter are good enough for me. Have I missed anything?

How does the sound compare?
post #2717 of 2827
I have a small dilemma someone here hopefully can help me out with.

I'm going to buy either the Oppo 103 or the Oppo 105 but can't decide wich one fits my needs mostly.

I currently have an older Marantz SR5001 AV-Reciever (downgraded from my former Arcam setup).
My speakers are NHT 2.5i, 1.5 and AC2. They will be replaced in a few years but not yet since they still sound great.
I use a digital settop box for TV and an Apple TV2 for streaming movies/netflix to my Panasonic Viera 50" plasma.
For music I listen alot to vinly on my Pro-ject RPM 1.3 with 2M Blue cartridge connected to a seperate RIAA. I also listen to streamed FLAC or AAC from my computer.
My DVD-player is broken hence why I'm swapping to a BR-player.

As I see it I could use either of the 103/105 via Analog Out to my current reciever and take advantage of the new audio decoders. I can also use the HDMI 1.4 from either player.
I could use the DAC from 105 to improve the sound when I stream music from my computer since it's far better then the one in SR5001, and I could also connect the sound from Apple TV2/Digital box to improve it further. For the same money as a 105 though, I can practically get the 103 + a new Marantz 6007.

Any thoughts?

Sound quality when listening to music or BR-concerts is the priority here (image is also a priority but I doubt there's any major difference when it comes to that).
post #2718 of 2827
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Originally Posted by FetMule View Post

I have a small dilemma someone here hopefully can help me out with.
I'm going to buy either the Oppo 103 or the Oppo 105 but can't decide wich one fits my needs mostly.
I currently have an older Marantz SR5001 AV-Reciever (downgraded from my former Arcam setup).
My speakers are NHT 2.5i, 1.5 and AC2. They will be replaced in a few years but not yet since they still sound great.
I use a digital settop box for TV and an Apple TV2 for streaming movies/netflix to my Panasonic Viera 50" plasma.
For music I listen alot to vinly on my Pro-ject RPM 1.3 with 2M Blue cartridge connected to a seperate RIAA. I also listen to streamed FLAC or AAC from my computer.
My DVD-player is broken hence why I'm swapping to a BR-player.
As I see it I could use either of the 103/105 via Analog Out to my current reciever and take advantage of the new audio decoders. I can also use the HDMI 1.4 from either player.
I could use the DAC from 105 to improve the sound when I stream music from my computer since it's far better then the one in SR5001, and I could also connect the sound from Apple TV2/Digital box to improve it further. For the same money as a 105 though, I can practically get the 103 + a new Marantz 6007.
Any thoughts?
Sound quality when listening to music or BR-concerts is the priority here (image is also a priority but I doubt there's any major difference when it comes to that).

I don't need to elaborate here. You want great 'Analogue' sound, the 105 is the only way to go! If you were using HDMI for both sound and vision you would be wasting your money by not using the analogue channels and should go for the 103.
The 103's analogues are great, don't get me wrong, and compete well with other high end players. It's just that the 105's analogue department is 'off the scale' and partnered with your favourite equipment there should be a massive improvement overall. I find myself listening to music I don't even particularly like sometimes, just because it sounds so good wink.gif
post #2719 of 2827
Does anyone has an issue with your PC when you use 105 as USB sound card via USB?
I have experiences issues with my media applications eg. foobar dropping sound while playing flac occasionally and MPC hangs while playing a mkv video.

I have no such issue with a cheap DAC.
post #2720 of 2827
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Originally Posted by sirocco2001 View Post

Does anyone has an issue with your PC when you use 105 as USB sound card via USB?
I have experiences issues with my media applications eg. foobar dropping sound while playing flac occasionally and MPC hangs while playing a mkv video.

I have no such issue with a cheap DAC.

I suspect the problem is that you are now sending out higher bit rate audio than was the case before, and thus the problem is a performance issue in the PC -- perhaps due to other things that are running in the background. But it is also possible that you've found a bug in the USB driver used to connect to the OPPO.

So if you have a repeatable case, please do email OPPO Tech Support with the details. If the problem happens repeatably with specific files, they may ask you to get them a copy of the file.
--Bob
post #2721 of 2827
yea, I bet it's not the oppo. It may be something like having to change the size of your buffer in foobar. You can try using straight DS (instead of wasabi etc) in foobar if that's what you're doing.
post #2722 of 2827
After doing several testings with the same flac song via foobar, I found out that if I decrease the input sound by -8 on the oppo audio control panel, I have less drops so will test more.
Changing the bit rates doesn't help, I am still trying to see whether by changing the buffer samples helps. I am playing them at 2048.
post #2723 of 2827
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Originally Posted by elphillips

I've had my 105 in operation for three weeks now. As mentioned in a previous post I'm using it as my pre/pro. It replaces a Marantz AV8003. I realized that the only functions this $2,500 pre/pro was performing in the system was switching between broadcast tv and playing discs in addition to volume control. I'm sure the DACs in the 105 are as good as the Marantz, if not better. So what I'm I missing taking the Marantz out of the system? No radio tuner. Never used it. For background music during the day I use the cable music channels. No Accustic EQ. Never used that either. No Audyssey. Tape measure and trusty old Radio Shack SPL meter are good enough for me. Have I missed anything?

I recently started using the 105 as a pre/pro as well. What I really miss is the volume control on the unit itself. Sometimes I have the system on loud volume and the phone rings. And this is when I can't find the remote to turn down the music. I really miss being able to walk up to the unit and use it's volume knob to turn it down quickly!

I agree on both. We are enjoying teh simplicity of the 103 alone, love the sound and great video. However, we do wish the voume control on the remote was more than 2 little horizontal buttons. We would much prefer an obvious vertical toggle on the remote, and a round volume knob on the 105 if this is to be called a replacement for a pre-pro. Great sound by the way thru a big 7 channel amp, 7 magepans, and a single SW! A simple tape measure and careful SW placement works great for me too. Keeps it simple--far less electronics, less cables, better sound
BobC
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Guys, I am planing to buy a modified OPPO 103. Any feedback will be appreciated...I understand that OPPO 103 comes with 4xS/PDIF upgrade and seperate 3G SDI which if I understand correctly is a video upgrade...is it really necessary?
As concern the 4xS/PDIF upgrade, any noticeable improvement in the SQ?
post #2725 of 2827
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Originally Posted by kamenoff View Post

Guys, I am planing to buy a modified OPPO 103. Any feedback will be appreciated...I understand that OPPO 103 comes with 4xS/PDIF upgrade and seperate 3G SDI which if I understand correctly is a video upgrade...is it really necessary?
As concern the 4xS/PDIF upgrade, any noticeable improvement in the SQ?

SDI? That was a custom feature in the DVD player days but I don't see that it makes any sense in the Blu-ray era, particularly on a player that has Source Direct for both DVD and Blu-ray.

What is the source of these modified players?

-Bill
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Originally Posted by kamenoff View Post

Guys, I am planing to buy a modified OPPO 103. Any feedback will be appreciated...I understand that OPPO 103 comes with 4xS/PDIF upgrade and seperate 3G SDI which if I understand correctly is a video upgrade...is it really necessary?
As concern the 4xS/PDIF upgrade, any noticeable improvement in the SQ?

3rd party hardware modifications to the stock OPPO BDP-103 player are still very new since the player itself is so new. It is HIGHLY UNLIKELY anyone has had time yet to get a real handle on whether they work (for mods from some specific vendor), what their value is, and whether they introduce any problems -- either now, or down the road as OPPO issues firmware updates.

Some people do of course buy modified players, and there are obviously enough happy customers to keep these mod shops in business. But really you have to know you are taking a gamble any time you go this route. For example, OPPO can't service a player while the mods are in place, so you have to believe the mod shop can take care of service for you if the mod is not easily removable.

I've got no personal experience with the type of mod you are describing so I can't offer any evaluation of it.

In the world of SD-DVD, SDI output (a type of professional connection) was used to tap directly into the output of the disc decoder in the SD-DVD player and thus bypass any sort of video processing the player might do or any issues that might arise in the normal video output path of the player. Whether you want to go that route depends on how much faith you have that OPPO know what they are doing in their own video output (via HDMI). Multi-SPDIF mods have been used in the past to get around the limitations inherent in normal SPDIF (such as no multi-channel except via traditional, lossy, Bitstream formats. That type of multi-SPDIF mod is for people who want to connect the player to an external DAC set. Again, whether there is value there depends on how much faith you have in your separate DAC. As an alternative, getting the better DACS in the stock OPPO BDP-105 player might be an alternative.

If you search the web, you'll likely find discussions from people who like to believe such mods are a good idea -- and that may be a better source of info on what they can offer and what the pitfalls are. This thread is, of course, primarily populated by folks using the stock player.
--Bob
post #2727 of 2827
Thanks, Bob.. appreciated.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any player with digital output apart of HDMI or HDMI switch to extract a digital sound from the player. So we, the customers are trying to find way to get what we want...I am aware about the risks you mentioned but again I am looking for the ultimate SQ.
post #2728 of 2827
Just about all Sony 2012 have Cinavia I returned 2 myself Sony SD590 and SD790 check it out on this site. http://www.cinavia.com/languages/english/pages/technology.html
post #2729 of 2827
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Originally Posted by ricanguy007 View Post

Just about all Sony 2012 have Cinavia I returned 2 myself Sony SD590 and SD790 check it out on this site. http://www.cinavia.com/languages/english/pages/technology.html

They do, but not applicable to DLNA, so it defeats the whole point.
post #2730 of 2827
Bluray players/media players that contain Cinavia:

Sony Playstation 3 (PS3) - Firmwares affected - all firmwares newer than v3.01 contain Cinavia (Message Code 3)
Pioneer BDP-V6000 - unknown firmware atm
Denon DBP-1611UD - unknown firmware atm
Marantz UD5005 - unknown firmware atm

Bluray players/media players that DONT contain Cinavia:

LG BD550 latest BD.8.31.339.C firmware, some firmwares earlier than 300.C contained cinavia
LG BD560 latest BD.8.31.339.C firmware, some firmwares earlier than 300.C contained cinavia
LG BD570 latest BD.8.31.339.C firmware, some firmwares earlier than 300.C contained cinavia
Samsung BD-P1590 latest firmware v2.13 and older
Samsung BD-C5900-XAA firmware BSP-C6900WWB-1019.1 and older
Samsung BD-C6900 up until firmware version BSP-C6900WWB-1018.1
Sony BDP-S300 firmware v5.30 and older (unknown if v5.40 is protected)
Sony BDP-S301 firmware v5.30 and older (unknown if v5.40 is protected)
Sony BDP-S360 latest firmware 007 and older
Sony BDP-S370 firmware M03.R.315 and older
Sony BDP-S550 latest firmware 020 and older
Sony BDP-S560 latest firmware 007 and older
Sony BDP-S570 firmware M04.R.624 and older
Sony BDP-N460 firmware M02.R.123 and older
Sony BDP-CX960 firmware v013 and older
Oppo BDP-83 latest firmware BDP-83-55-0226/BDP-83-55-0226B and older
Oppo BDP-93 latest firmware BDP9x-42-0323 and older
Panasonic DMP-BD85 - firmware v1.50 dated 03/08/2010 and older
Panasonic DMP-BDT350 - firmware v1.73 dated November 22, 2010 and older
Panasonic SC-BT230 firmware 1.50 and older
Philips BDP9600 firmware 1.53
Pioneer BDP-51FD and BDP-05FD firmware v1.70
Pioneer BDP-320 V3.70 firmware and older
Western Digital WD TV HD Media Player 1st Gen - model: WDAVN00 (latest FW v1.03.01 and older)
Western Digital WD TV HD Media Player 2nd Gen - model: WDBABF0000NBK-NESN (firmware 1.01.70 and older)
Western Digital WD TV Live HD Media Player 1st Gen - model: WDBAAN0000NBK (latest beta Firmware v1.03.35 and older)
Western Digital WD TV Live Plus HD Media Player 1st Gen - model: WDBABX0000NBK (latest Firmware v1.03.29 and older)
Vizio VBR100 firmware unknown
X-Box 360 (though not BR player, it is a media player) free of Cinavia
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