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post #31 of 65
I have the Energy RC-10s. They are very good speakers, but they do need amplification (you could always buy a used receiver off Craigslist).

They are currently available for $220 new, so don't pay $200 for them used.
post #32 of 65
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

I have the Energy RC-10s. They are very good speakers, but they do need amplification (you could always buy a used receiver off Craigslist).
They are currently available for $220 new, so don't pay $200 for them used.

Would the AudioSource AMP 100 be enough to power the RC-10s or Def Tech 350s?
post #33 of 65
Sure. The Audio Source amp would be fine. Although if you have an active Craigslist in your area, you can easily find something better used. Where do you live?
post #34 of 65
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Sorry bud, they are a great deal I just didn't want to spend $400 and really just wanted a 2 speaker setup.
Thanks for the heads up on the T15s though, very good deal
Yes, believe it or not IMO the T15 Polks are a good liitle inexpensive speaker we use 5 sets throughout our house.
Go listen to them at BB... And no they are not for sale. Lol
post #35 of 65
Thread Starter 
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Sure. The Audio Source amp would be fine. Although if you have an active Craigslist in your area, you can easily find something better used. Where do you live?

Just moved to Seattle 3 weeks ago smile.gif
post #36 of 65
Deftech specs can be BS, btw. They badly overstate the extension of many of their products (14 hz extension from a 8" sub?! yeah right)
post #37 of 65
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Deftech specs can be BS, btw. They badly overstate the extension of many of their products (14 hz extension from a 8" sub?! yeah right)

I agree, there's no way

I did take a second look at the HB-1 MK2s you recommended at they look pretty good
post #38 of 65
Thread Starter 
I wonder if this would be a nice little used combo for a first stereo

this
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/ele/3242645048.html

plus the Polk Audio RT55s from this
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/for/3246343339.html
post #39 of 65
Yeah. It looks like there is multiple good Onkyos and Yamahas on CL in Seattle for $100 and less. That's definitely a better way to go than the Audio Source amp.
post #40 of 65
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Yeah. It looks like there is multiple good Onkyos and Yamahas on CL in Seattle for $100 and less. That's definitely a better way to go than the Audio Source amp.

Gotchya and how much power should I be looking for? Or would any of them pretty much be fine?
post #41 of 65
I wouldn't worry about the power too much. Any full sized receiver will have plenty.

Double the power is only 3db more volume. It takes 10db increase in volume for a perceived doubling of volume to our ears. So you can see that the difference between a 50 watt and 100 watt receiver isn't that great in terms of how much volume increase you get.
post #42 of 65
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

I wouldn't worry about the power too much. Any full sized receiver will have plenty.
Double the power is only 3db more volume. It takes 10db increase in volume for a perceived doubling of volume to our ears. So you can see that the difference between a 50 watt and 100 watt receiver isn't that great in terms of how much volume increase you get.

awesome, thanks for all your help
post #43 of 65
I've owned a pair of Axiom Audio M3's for about 10 years and I still like them.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/m3-bookshelf-speakers.html
post #44 of 65
Arx A1b bookshelfs. Fantastic sounding woofers and planar tweeters.

http://www.theaudioinsider.com/manufacturers.php?mPath=13
post #45 of 65
I can't be the only one that was excited seeing this thread on the front page until I read the budget. Almost everything linked to has been out of budget. Does the budget include amplification? If so, then I think your best bet is to look at active speakers. I think you'd have a hard time beating the offerings from AudioEngine A5 and something like the Focal XS 2.0, which goes to 50Hz. Both out of budget at $300 - $400. After adding amplification you are in a similar price range

Some Polk speakers are 10% off right now, including a couple bookshelves under $200. I don't think these are as nice as the Focal or AudioEngine offerings. .
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Specials/Default.aspx?offerid=80151

From your wishlist, I would go with the M-Audio BX5 D2. Only because I have experience with M-Audio smile.gif
post #46 of 65
Hi

I recently had the opportunity to listen to the new KEF LS50 bookshelf speakers being run of a NAD integrated amp. The source was an arcam cd player. These bookshelf speakers are worth a listen. They and a very precise yet open sound stage and were very transperant.

Thanks
post #47 of 65
I am suprised no one suggested the Pioneer SP-BS21. Those can be had for $100.

They sound pretty darn good for the price.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117405
post #48 of 65
As someone else stated, if you don't mind getting your hands dirty you could build a set of awesome and cheap bookshelf speakers:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=90911.0 (AV123 X-LS Encore kit $149 Classic $109)
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/2-way-speaker-kits/zaph%7Caudio-za5.2-tm-2-way-pair-with-cabinets/
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-706&utm_source=Bazaarvoiceps
post #49 of 65
The polk RTI6 sounds really good and can found at newegg for $140 when on sale.
Never mind there are $399 now
post #50 of 65
The only thing that matters is how all of these speakers sound to your ears. What sounds good to me won't necessarily sound good to you. But, after many years of auditioning various speaker brands, I ended up purchasing Definitive Tech speakers. I have BP2002 powered towers, a powered 15" sub, center channel, BP2X surrounds, a pair of in-wall speakers, a pair of ProMonitor800's and a ProCenter 1000. I am blown away by every one. Even the tiny ProMonitor800's are impressive for their clarity and punch. While they do lack very low bass frequencies due to their small size, they still sound amazing. I bought these with the intention of buying the matching powered sub, but so far haven't felt the need as they sound great as they are. Bottom line, speakers need to be heard by the buyer before any informed decision can be made.
post #51 of 65
I'm with those suggesting the Definitive Tech. with a craigslist receiver. Especially if you get a deal on the 450s. Sign up for newegg's sale e-mails or watch techbargains.
post #52 of 65
I'd go with something small with a subwoofer. From Cambridge SoundWorks - The Soundworks II Speaker System $150 - I listen to music a lot on my computer and I've always been impressed with these speakers. If you upgrade someday, you can use these on a computer system.
post #53 of 65
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I am suprised no one suggested the Pioneer SP-BS21. Those can be had for $100.
They sound pretty darn good for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117405

Bingo.

Those SP-BS21 are currently $62 shipped.

They often come on sale for $49 shipped.

The slightly larger SP-BS41's will have a greater bass extension. They are currently on sale for $99 shipped.

They are simply untouchable for the price.

I bought a pair of the SP-BS21's for a friend. Hooked them up to my dayton 15 wpc class T amp and was blown away by the sound.

Very smooth, lifelike vocals. Detailed highs without being harsh, and respectable bass output. I'm sure the SP-BS41's will have even more bass.

Don't think that pioneer designed these in five minutes to mass produce them and sell them on their name alone. Andrew Jones, a well known expert designed these from the ground up to bring to market the best speaker possible in that price range.


Here is another amp option. Similar to the amp you linked to earlier, just with a much smaller footprint and the added benefit of an integrated headphone amp.
post #54 of 65
@slip - That second link appears to be another link to the pioneer speakers. Would you mind correcting the link as I'm interested in which amp you are recommending.
post #55 of 65
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

Deftech specs can be BS, btw. They badly overstate the extension of many of their products (14 hz extension from a 8" sub?! yeah right)

I agree, there's no way

I did take a second look at the HB-1 MK2s you recommended at they look pretty good

+1 for the Hsu HB-1s. Great speakers. Easy to drive, clean sound and smooth bass that Hsu is known for. I often switch btw 2.0 and 2.1 listening to music and am always amazed when I think the sub is on and it really isn't. smile.gif
post #56 of 65
Here are some other possibilities to consider. First, read Steve Guttenberg's article here about assembling a desktop stereo for under $70:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57439115-47/build-your-own-desktop-stereo-for-under-$70/

The Lepai amplifier is on Amazon for $19:

http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347898989&sr=1-1&keywords=lepai+lp-2020a%2B

The Dayton Audio B652 speakers with 6 1/2" woofers are on Parts Express for $39.80:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-652

If you want a little more power, there is the AudioSource AMP-100 that was previously mentioned on Amazon for $88.93:

http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-Stereo-Power-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=4U2NEAHXZF35&coliid=I203JEKXJXPNN2

This will provide unbelievably good sound for either $58.80 or $128.73, not including shipping.

Since we are still WAY under budget, there is the possibility of throwing in a sub just because we can! How about an 80-watt, 8-inch that can be connected to either amplifier? For that, it's back to Parts Express for this sub for $89.00:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-627

There you have it! A great sounding system for anywhere from $58.80 to $217.73! smile.gif

I have the Lepai amplifier and the Dayton Audio speakers and the sound is incredible for the price. To make it even better, feed it from a DAC! I'm using a FiiO E17 DAC / headphone amp:

post #57 of 65
There is a reason why this Dayton speakers are so cheap.
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Power handling: 40 watts RMS/75 watts max
That spec does not bode well for the drivers they used. I hate to rip on your gear, but those speakers are not on the level of many of the others mentioned in this thread.
post #58 of 65
I would agree, if the full budget is spent on speakers, there are better speakers. However, the Daytons sound remarkably good for the price. Also, since there is probably going to be somewhat limited power, the Daytons are fairly sensitive at 87 dB 1W/1m and they do have 6 1/2" woofers and are quite well reviewed. Although their power handling is limited, some of the other speakers are less sensitive and need more power to play at similar levels.

Anyway, just some more options to consider. The Daytons are obviously extremely low-priced speakers, but they perform much better than a lot of speakers that cost more.

Don't worry, your comments are welcome!
post #59 of 65
Looks like I'm a little late to the party on this one, but I just bought a new system for my living room that was right around $300. I plan on using active Studio Monitors for the theater and this gave me an excuse to try some out.

Emotiva XDA-1 $150 on Craigslist
Mackie MR5 Studio Monitors $125 from ebay
XLR cables $30 from Guitar Center in Tacoma

I have the Emotiva XDA-1 connected with optical to the TV and with Coax to the Blu-Ray player for CDs. The Mackie MR5s are rated down to 60Hz and the MR8s are down to 40Hz. I don't use a sub as there seems to be plenty of bass without one, but to each their own. This is my first time listening to studio monitors, but after researching the crap out of them, I don't know why more people don't go this route.
post #60 of 65
My $.02.

I have two Energy RC-10s in my 16'x14' bedroom. They sound awesome and fill the entire room with sound. I was literally astounded at how deep the bass went and how clear they sound. I am powering them with and Onkyo 8050 Network receiver. I got 2 speaks and the receiver for under $500
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