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post #121 of 258
1/2/13 at 1:24pm
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Looks great. I am sure it sounds eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif


Thanks man. I'm thrilled with the way the subs turned out with this round of changes. Next up I'm building new mains using the SEOS waveguide. Look for something being tested by the end of the month. biggrin.gif
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post #122 of 258
1/3/13 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Thanks Mike. You are in for a surprise when you come to listen. biggrin.gif The next GTG will be in April. Of course you're invited, in fact I even have you on the list already. smile.gif
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Thanks. I did have fun the last time. So, let's see, you have 4 subs. Each sub is a dual style sub with 2 18in drivers. And each sub(right now) has a 2500 watt amp? Are you planning on getting more powerful amps for them? Did you say you are just going to line them up in the front of the room or will you place them throughout the room. Again, I really can't imagine more then what you had. I have experienced building shaking bass before. If you say these are better (SQ+SPL) then what I heard at the GTG, it should be quite impressive. Looking forward to April.
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post #123 of 258
1/3/13 at 12:16pm
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Thanks. I did have fun the last time. So, let's see, you have 4 subs. Each sub is a dual style sub with 2 18in drivers. And each sub(right now) has a 2500 watt amp? Are you planning on getting more powerful amps for them? Did you say you are just going to line them up in the front of the room or will you place them throughout the room. Again, I really can't imagine more then what you had. I have experienced building shaking bass before. If you say these are better (SQ+SPL) then what I heard at the GTG, it should be quite impressive. Looking forward to April.

I have the amp configured to send 8800 watts to 8 drivers, so 1100 per driver or 2200 per box. The amp I'm using is more than sufficient. I can push it for several demo selections and the case is still cold on it. wink.gif

Check out the pictures in the previous page. I have 2 up front, 1 as an end table, and 2 behind the recliners.
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post #124 of 258
1/3/13 at 1:00pm
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I have the amp configured to send 8800 watts to 8 drivers, so 1100 per driver or 2200 per box. The amp I'm using is more than sufficient. I can push it for several demo selections and the case is still cold on it. wink.gif
Check out the pictures in the previous page. I have 2 up front, 1 as an end table, and 2 behind the recliners.
So one amp for the 4 boxes? That is an impressive amp. Just remind me to put the ear plugs in when you guys go really silly with the remote tongue.gif.
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post #125 of 258
1/4/13 at 11:51am
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So one amp for the 4 boxes? That is an impressive amp. Just remind me to put the ear plugs in when you guys go really silly with the remote tongue.gif.

Yes, it is a beast for sure. It's a clone of the Lab Gruppen FP14000 amplifier. Typically this amp runs off a 240V/15A or 120V/30A dedicated line. I have it on a 120V/20A line with no breaker issues just yet, but then again I'm 'only' running it in 4 ohm stereo. I don't need to push it to it's limits anyway. The real LG amps are stable down to 2 ohm stereo, in that configuration they are rated at 7000 watts per channel.

The kicker is the amp only takes up two rack spaces and only weighs about 25 lbs. It's crazy efficient. eek.gifeek.gif
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post #126 of 258
1/4/13 at 12:49pm
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Yes, it is a beast for sure. It's a clone of the Lab Gruppen FP14000 amplifier. Typically this amp runs off a 240V/15A or 120V/30A dedicated line. I have it on a 120V/20A line with no breaker issues just yet, but then again I'm 'only' running it in 4 ohm stereo. I don't need to push it to it's limits anyway. The real LG amps are stable down to 2 ohm stereo, in that configuration they are rated at 7000 watts per channel.
The kicker is the amp only takes up two rack spaces and only weighs about 25 lbs. It's crazy efficient. eek.gifeek.gif
OK, not to be a dummy, but that looks like a 2ch amp and you are going to run 4 subs off of it? How do you connect everything when you do something like that?
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post #127 of 258
1/4/13 at 12:52pm
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OK, not to be a dummy, but that looks like a 2ch amp and you are going to run 4 subs off of it? How do you connect everything when you do something like that?

8 X 4 ohm subs

Each cabinet with two drivers wired in series = 8 ohm load per box

2 cabinets wired in parallel on each channel = 4 ohm load.

2 boxes on each channel in 4 ohm stereo. biggrin.gif
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post #128 of 258
1/4/13 at 1:16pm
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OK, not to be a dummy, but that looks like a 2ch amp and you are going to run 4 subs off of it? How do you connect everything when you do something like that?

See, I'm not the only one that doesn't get it.

What ever happened to RCA jacks? Think I got lost right after the S video line came out.
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post #129 of 258
1/4/13 at 3:14pm
Now that's what I call a home theater! Nice looking set up. From the first post you said you had SHO10s? Still got em? How you like em?
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post #130 of 258
1/4/13 at 7:10pm
Nice setup. Wish I had a theater room like that. Couldn't imagine having so many subwoofers in that room like you guys did back at the last GTG.
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post #131 of 258
1/5/13 at 2:39am
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Nice setup. Wish I had a theater room like that. Couldn't imagine having so many subwoofers in that room like you guys did back at the last GTG.

Thanks! Btw is your avatar picture in reference to powerlifting gear? If so, nice!! Do you compete as well?
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See, I'm not the only one that doesn't get it.
What ever happened to RCA jacks? Think I got lost right after the S video line came out.

Man, by the time we are done with your new setup, you will be an expert!
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Now that's what I call a home theater! Nice looking set up. From the first post you said you had SHO10s? Still got em? How you like em?

Thank you sir. Yes, still have the SHOs and really like them! The width is the soundstage is amazing and they play loud and clean. Really loud. I haven't found anything comparable in the commercial world around this price.
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post #132 of 258
1/5/13 at 7:27am
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Thanks! Btw is your avatar picture in reference to powerlifting gear? If so, nice!! Do you compete as well?

Yes Metal Gear. Late winter and springtime we usually compete, mostly geared bench.
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post #133 of 258
1/5/13 at 4:09pm
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Yes Metal Gear. Late winter and springtime we usually compete, mostly geared bench.

Nice! I'm a raw guy myself but train with guys in gear. Typically do full power meets in APA and UPA. Possibly something else this year too, we will see.

Do you live near westside?
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post #134 of 258
1/5/13 at 4:48pm
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Nice! I'm a raw guy myself but train with a bunch of guys in gear. Typically do full power meets in APA and UPA. Possibly a USAPL meet this year too, we will see.
Do you live near westside?

I'm about 45mins from westside, about an hr to Elitefts and maybe 45 min drive to Arnold classic expo. Guess i'm in the middle of all of it lol. I like raw lifting too but geared is just so much fun, squat and bench, DL not so much for geared.

The guys I lift with won't go near a deadlift or pp meet so its always tough to find something they would go for.
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post #135 of 258
1/5/13 at 5:00pm
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I'm about 45mins from westside, about an hr to Elitefts and maybe 45 min drive to Arnold classic expo. Guess i'm in the middle of all of it lol. I like raw lifting too but geared is just so much fun, squat and bench, DL not so much for geared.
The guys I lift with won't go near a deadlift or pp meet so its always tough to find something they would go for.

Man, I'm jealous!! You're right in the center for sure. One of these days I'll get out to Elite for one of their seminars, they seem like fun.


Back to the room - I'm having some custom baffles made in the next day or so for my new LCR mains setup. I will begin construction shortly! Can't wait. cool.gif
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post #136 of 258
1/8/13 at 7:03am
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

8 X 4 ohm subs
Each cabinet with two drivers wired in series = 8 ohm load per box
2 cabinets wired in parallel on each channel = 4 ohm load.
2 boxes on each channel in 4 ohm stereo. biggrin.gif
OK. So some how you can run two sub boxes off of one channel from the amp. Is that right? I would guess you would need a beefy amp to pull that off.
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post #137 of 258
1/8/13 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

OK. So some how you can run two sub boxes off of one channel from the amp. Is that right? I would guess you would need a beefy amp to pull that off.

It's about as beefy as you can get into a single enclosure - at least for 120V use. biggrin.gif
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post #138 of 258
1/8/13 at 8:42am
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It's about as beefy as you can get into a single enclosure - at least for 120V use. biggrin.gif
So, compared to what I heard at the GTG, is there any comparison? What's the lowest these can go and at that point what SPL(ex-110 at 10Hz) Just an example. Plus, have you done max SPL readings at say 20Hz 30Hz etc... Remind me to use the ear plugs with these eek.gif.
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post #139 of 258
1/8/13 at 12:05pm
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So, compared to what I heard at the GTG, is there any comparison? What's the lowest these can go and at that point what SPL(ex-110 at 10Hz) Just an example. Plus, have you done max SPL readings at say 20Hz 30Hz etc... Remind me to use the ear plugs with these eek.gif.

Stop by for a listen sometime and hear for yourself. biggrin.gif I have not yet saved any worthwhile measurements, but I can tell you with a 5-100hz sine wave the really low stuff makes my basement slider door flex about an inch, LOL. This setup plays with authority into the single digits.
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post #140 of 258
1/8/13 at 3:29pm
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Stop by for a listen sometime and hear for yourself. biggrin.gif I have not yet saved any worthwhile measurements, but I can tell you with a 5-100hz sine wave the really low stuff makes my basement slider door flex about an inch, LOL. This setup plays with authority into the single digits.
I want to prepare myself eek.gif so maybe if there is time, I can get a quick demo at the GTG.
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post #141 of 258
1/8/13 at 3:36pm
4 Silverback subs, 1 Gorilla. I've got one word for you: Epicenter!
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post #142 of 258
1/8/13 at 7:09pm
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4 Silverback subs, 1 Gorilla. I've got one word for you: Epicenter!

Haha, indeed. cool.gif
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I want to prepare myself eek.gif so maybe if there is time, I can get a quick demo at the GTG.

No preparation needed. And I'm sure we will be playing with them at the gtg. wink.gif
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post #143 of 258
1/9/13 at 6:06am
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No preparation needed. And I'm sure we will be playing with them at the gtg. wink.gif
Sweet. Looking forward to hearing them.
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post #144 of 258
1/27/13 at 9:54am
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New mains are set up. I'm going to make some small stands (6" or so) to raise them fully up to hear height but they already sound fantastic as is. I'm happy with the way they turned out and they certainly have no trouble keeping up with my subs. biggrin.gif




Proper front stage!

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post #145 of 258
1/27/13 at 10:44am
They look great. They also look big. Did you already post size specs on them. About any stands, you won't be able to raise the center will you? From that last picture it looks like if you raise your center, it will block part of screen, Unless I am looking at the picture wrong. I am looking forward to hearing these.
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post #146 of 258
1/27/13 at 11:36am
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New mains are set up. I'm going to make some small stands (6" or so) to raise them fully up to hear height but they already sound fantastic as is. I'm happy with the way they turned out and they certainly have no trouble keeping up with my subs. biggrin.gif

Another great build man. I'll bet that sounds killer.
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post #147 of 258
1/27/13 at 12:31pm
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Another great build man. I'll bet that sounds killer.

Thanks Jim! You will have to come listen soon. biggrin.gif
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They look great. They also look big. Did you already post size specs on them. About any stands, you won't be able to raise the center will you? From that last picture it looks like if you raise your center, it will block part of screen, Unless I am looking at the picture wrong. I am looking forward to hearing these.

Thanks Mike. I have a build thread over in the DIY section. The woofer/waveguide/driver/crossover components are a kit over at DIYsoundgroup. They are fairly large and heavy.

Specs: 15" B&C pro driver w/ 7mm excursion, 1100w program power handling, 3" VC. DNA-360 compression driver which is very similar to a B&C DE250. Waveguide is a SEOS12 in gloss finish. Cabinet is 3/4" MDF, 2.5 cubic feet, and a 2x15x10.5 slot port at the bottom.

The center doesn't really need raised, but I'm going to cut a 45 degree wedge for it to tilt it up toward the LP.
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post #148 of 258
1/27/13 at 1:55pm
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Thanks Jim! You will have to come listen soon. biggrin.gif

How about April? Does that work for you? smile.gif
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post #149 of 258
1/27/13 at 2:16pm
Some of us will get to listen to these tomorrow. I'm looking forward to hearing the setup and getting yet another crash course in Audyssey.
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post #150 of 258
1/27/13 at 3:23pm
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Some of us will get to listen to these tomorrow. I'm looking forward to hearing the setup and getting yet another crash course in Audyssey.

So Andrew is having a pre-GTG GTG? Are you sure his wife isn't going to string him up? biggrin.gif
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