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post #151 of 258
1/27/13 at 3:25pm
Ah, the benefit of being 5 minutes away. Although I am really looking forward to the April GTG.
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post #152 of 258
1/27/13 at 3:29pm
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How about April? Does that work for you? smile.gif

No. Way too far away. biggrin.gif
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Some of us will get to listen to these tomorrow. I'm looking forward to hearing the setup and getting yet another crash course in Audyssey.

Yes sir, trying to get some more tweaking in before their first public debut. biggrin.gif

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So Andrew is having a pre-GTG GTG? Are you sure his wife isn't going to string him up? biggrin.gif

Any day is fair game for a pre-GTG GTG - my wife should understand that by now. biggrin.gif
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post #153 of 258
1/28/13 at 5:15am
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Thanks Mike. I have a build thread over in the DIY section. The woofer/waveguide/driver/crossover components are a kit over at DIYsoundgroup. They are fairly large and heavy.

Specs: 15" B&C pro driver w/ 7mm excursion, 1100w program power handling, 3" VC. DNA-360 compression driver which is very similar to a B&C DE250. Waveguide is a SEOS12 in gloss finish. Cabinet is 3/4" MDF, 2.5 cubic feet, and a 2x15x10.5 slot port at the bottom.

The center doesn't really need raised, but I'm going to cut a 45 degree wedge for it to tilt it up toward the LP.
They do look pretty impressive. I saw that you posted some info in the thread for the GTG as well. Looking forward to checking these out. Again, it looks like you did a great job.
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post #154 of 258
1/29/13 at 5:07am
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Thanks Mike! Going to make some small tweaks to the crossovers this weekend per the recommendations of the designer. Should also get a start on making the stands.

And then finally, I can get started on treating the ceiling in my room. biggrin.gif
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post #155 of 258
1/29/13 at 12:45pm
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Thanks Mike! Going to make some small tweaks to the crossovers this weekend per the recommendations of the designer. Should also get a start on making the stands.

And then finally, I can get started on treating the ceiling in my room. biggrin.gif
Sweet. The GTG for mains will be fun. I am really looking forward to checking these out as well as the others on the list. I know I am lazy tongue.gif, but did you post, or check on max SPL on these? And speaking of crossovers, did you decide where you were going to cross them over to your subs?
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post #156 of 258
1/29/13 at 12:55pm
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Sweet. The GTG for mains will be fun. I am really looking forward to checking these out as well as the others on the list. I know I am lazy tongue.gif, but did you post, or check on max SPL on these? And speaking of crossovers, did you decide where you were going to cross them over to your subs?

Based on a quick calculation on sensitivity and power handling, I'm getting 126db peak per speaker at 1M. I've been experimenting crossing them anywhere from 40-60hz. They extend solidly to 19hz in my room when run full range. I have the subs running to 100hz as well.
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post #157 of 258
1/29/13 at 3:19pm
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Based on a quick calculation on sensitivity and power handling, I'm getting 126db peak per speaker at 1M. I've been experimenting crossing them anywhere from 40-60hz. They extend solidly to 19hz in my room when run full range. I have the subs running to 100hz as well.
19hz and an SPL of 126 per speaker is very impressive. Now I really can't wait to hear them. But I do have a favor which will probably be scoffed at. At some point, instead of running these full bore all the time, can we listen at a lower level? I am not a whimp tongue.gif, but I would really like to hear these a lower level. For me, I think I would be able to do some better critical listening.
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post #158 of 258
1/29/13 at 5:58pm
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I am not a whimp tongue.gif, but I would really like to hear these a lower level. For me, I think I would be able to do some better critical listening.

OK, I'll be the first to say it (because Andrew is just too nice a guy); WHIMP! biggrin.gif

Jeff P. is coming, as is Austin, so there will be times when mind-numbing volume will happen, but we're going to try and maintain a bit more restraint this time. Subwoofers are one thing, but speakers are a different animal. I'm sure we'll have some fun, and turn 'em loose, but we're going to control the output a little more this time. Unless I drink too much, then you're all doomed I'm afraid... tongue.gif
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post #159 of 258
1/30/13 at 3:39am
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19hz and an SPL of 126 per speaker is very impressive. Now I really can't wait to hear them. But I do have a favor which will probably be scoffed at. At some point, instead of running these full bore all the time, can we listen at a lower level? I am not a whimp tongue.gif, but I would really like to hear these a lower level. For me, I think I would be able to do some better critical listening.

I hear you Mike. I'd have to do these tests from another room. Those spl can wake sleeping babies in Hungary.
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post #160 of 258
1/30/13 at 4:43am
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OK, I'll be the first to say it (because Andrew is just too nice a guy); WHIMP! biggrin.gif

Jeff P. is coming, as is Austin, so there will be times when mind-numbing volume will happen, but we're going to try and maintain a bit more restraint this time. Subwoofers are one thing, but speakers are a different animal. I'm sure we'll have some fun, and turn 'em loose, but we're going to control the output a little more this time. Unless I drink too much, then you're all doomed I'm afraid... tongue.gif
Yea I knew I was in the minority here redface.gif. That's OK. I can take it. In my room anything above 105-110db is really loud so all this talk of 125+db is just crazy talk to someone like me. But I guess I don't want to lose my man card so I will step up and just deal with it biggrin.gif.
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post #161 of 258
1/30/13 at 4:56am
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It's going to be a long day so we'll have to take it fairly easy for most of the timeif we want to last more than a few hours. With that said, I can all but guarantee there will be some hardcore blast sessions at the end of the day. biggrin.gif
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post #162 of 258
1/30/13 at 6:18am
I am looking forward to all of these speakers. Now, not all of these are super sensitive like 99db and over. Mine are 91db are think. So I am still very interested in checking these out.
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post #163 of 258
2/2/13 at 1:41pm
My advice is to keep the volume in check for most of the day for sure. The only problem is that a lot of people could leave before "play time" and miss out on what the speakers are capable of. That happened at the Iowa GTG at David's place. Other than David and the KC gang there was only one other person there that got to experience the Noesis/Cap 2 sealed at full throttle on Art of Flight etc.
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post #164 of 258
2/3/13 at 5:38am
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My advice is to keep the volume in check for most of the day for sure. The only problem is that a lot of people could leave before "play time" and miss out on what the speakers are capable of. That happened at the Iowa GTG at David's place. Other than David and the KC gang there was only one other person there that got to experience the Noesis/Cap 2 sealed at full throttle on Art of Flight etc.

I agree. Maybe we can fit in a blast session or two after lunchtime or so. cool.gif
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post #165 of 258
2/13/13 at 4:37pm
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New mains setup with matching speaker stands - really enjoying these!

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post #166 of 258
2/14/13 at 4:43am
They look really good. I can't wait to hear them.
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post #167 of 258
2/14/13 at 4:58am
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They look really good. I can't wait to hear them.

Thanks Mike. Still got a lot of work to do before the GTG, but the room is coming along nicely. I'm going to take a week or two break from doing anything and just enjoy them. smile.gif

Also - Added an Energy 10" sub to the gym room - it sounds pretty damn good! smile.gif
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post #168 of 258
2/14/13 at 5:03am
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New mains setup with matching speaker stands - really enjoying these!


Looks great!!!! You have made a lot of changes since I started following this thread a few months ago. I think I first ran into you on the JTR forum. Also, have fun a the GTG event.
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post #169 of 258
2/14/13 at 6:16am
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Also - Added an Energy 10" sub to the gym room - it sounds pretty damn good! smile.gif

You mean a non-DIY sub has been added to the Gorilla collection?? That's heresy you slacker! biggrin.gif
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post #170 of 258
2/14/13 at 3:10pm
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You mean a non-DIY sub has been added to the Gorilla collection?? That's heresy you slacker! biggrin.gif

Shocking, right? In all fairness, I've had this sub around since last summer before I entered into the DIY world. smile.gif
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Looks great!!!! You have made a lot of changes since I started following this thread a few months ago. I think I first ran into you on the JTR forum. Also, have fun a the GTG event.

Thanks man! The GTG should be a blast.
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post #171 of 258
2/16/13 at 4:11pm
Diggin the room! Even more.....diggin the subs you have built! I've been thinking of diving into the diy part of this hobby. Good job man!!
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post #172 of 258
2/16/13 at 6:11pm
Where can I find more info on this DIY gig?
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post #173 of 258
2/17/13 at 7:44am
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Diggin the room! Even more.....diggin the subs you have built! I've been thinking of diving into the diy part of this hobby. Good job man!!

Thank you. Take a peek at the DIY FAQ link in my signature to get started.

Which "DIY gig" are you referring to so we can point you in the correct direction?
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post #174 of 258
2/17/13 at 8:04am
Building subs......big, loud, low subs. I currently have a velodyne DD-15 and DD-12. I'm thinking of selling and building something that will surpass the velo's in performance.
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post #175 of 258
2/17/13 at 8:04am
Sorry to thread jack btw
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post #176 of 258
2/17/13 at 12:00pm
just starting to look around in this forum of builds.
great job using that space!
I love that you documented everything by taking pics throughout. thanks so much for sharing.
can't wait to have more room and do a screen!

cheers
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post #177 of 258
2/17/13 at 2:48pm
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Building subs......big, loud, low subs. I currently have a velodyne DD-15 and DD-12. I'm thinking of selling and building something that will surpass the velo's in performance.

Check out the link below that gives an overview of many different tests run on popular commercial and DIY offers. One could exceed the performance of a DD18+ with a single 18" sealed offering like the SI or Daytons - with proper power behind them of course. You could build one of these subwoofers using a DIYSoundgroup flat pack for under 400 plus amp and/or eq. The real value comes when you build in multiples. smile.gif

http://www.data-bass.com/systems

Here is a single Dayton HO 18 in a sealed box vs. the Velo DD18+ - as you can see it won't be hard to surprass the Velo's:


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just starting to look around in this forum of builds.
great job using that space!
I love that you documented everything by taking pics throughout. thanks so much for sharing.
can't wait to have more room and do a screen!

cheers

Thanks Ryan, glad you are enjoying! There is alot more to come. I just picked up a few batts of R-38 insulation and will be treating the airspace above the ceiling tiles next.
Edited by Gorilla83 - 2/17/13 at 2:54pm
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post #178 of 258
2/23/13 at 7:45pm
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Started on the ceiling today - quickly reminded of how much I dislike working with the fluffy stuff, heh. It's amazing how compressed this stuff is when it's wrapped up. Look on the left compared to the center - it expands from about 2" to 12". smile.gif Also having to peel off the facing for each one but that's been pretty easy. Got a couple rows done today. More progress and pictures tomorrow.

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post #179 of 258
2/24/13 at 3:22pm
oh nooooo, I hate touching it, even looking at it!
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post #180 of 258
2/24/13 at 4:26pm
Rilla...have you considered using JoAnn Fabrics Triple Eagle black velvet to wrap each of your ceiling tiles?
I used the material, but applied using a track system on my insulated and decoupled sheetrock ceiling.
You could apply some roll-on, or better yet 3M spray-on adhesive, to each main exposed tile surface and then wrap the extra fabric up on top of each tile as you let them set back in place.
The metal grid can be painted with Mickey Mouse flat black (Lowes) or to better match the velvet, cover the metal grid pieces using ProtoStar flocking which is offered in narrow, adhesive-backed rolls.
I only treated the half-of-the-ceiling closest to my projector to avoid an all-out batcave look.
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