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post #121 of 275
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the only people who 'raved' about megan's midriff was 15 year old boys.

Who exactly do you think the Transformers movies or Battleship were made for? confused.gif
post #122 of 275
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Who exactly do you think the Transformers movies or Battleship were made for? confused.gif

the biggest age group of transformer fans are 25-35 years old.
Transformers was huge in the late 80's
post #123 of 275
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the biggest age group of transformer fans are 25-35 years old.
Transformers was huge in the late 80's
A lot of things were a huge hit in the 80's. Things that many of us here have tried very hard to forget.wink.gif
post #124 of 275
According to the MPAA's 2011 Theatrical Market Statistics report, the age group 25 to 39 ranks first for both % of the population that goes to the movies and also % of frequent movie goers.

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http://www.mpaa.org/policy/industry
post #125 of 275
For me, a movie that is 1 hour and 30 min is perfect. Especially at the cinema after watching 20 min of previews and having already been sitting there 15 to 20 min to get a good seat. At home is different. We usually pause half-way thru to freshen up drinks and the like. Long movies are great in the comfort of my own home theater. I believe any movie longer than 2hrs should have an intermission at the Cinema. Also to Michal Bay, please shorten your next movies by about 20 minutes.
post #126 of 275
^^^

actually, just cut out everything other than megan's bare midriff... tongue.gif
post #127 of 275
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

the biggest age group of transformer fans are 25-35 years old.
Transformers was huge in the late 80's
A lot of things were a huge hit in the 80's. Things that many of us here have tried very hard to forget.wink.gif

fortunately, all pictures from that time period have been destroyed... tongue.gif
post #128 of 275
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
actually, just cut out everything other than megan's bare midriff... tongue.gif

I don't even know why I agree with this statement, but yeah, I agree, fox is easy on the eyes.
post #129 of 275
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

the biggest age group of transformer fans are 25-35 years old.
Transformers was huge in the late 80's
Yep, I can remember buying Transformer toys for my son.....
post #130 of 275
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Originally Posted by sb1 View Post

A lot of things were a huge hit in the 80's. Things that many of us here have tried very hard to forget.wink.gif

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the biggest age group of transformer fans are 25-35 years old.
Transformers was huge in the late 80's

I am of late 80's and big fan of transformers when it was still in aminated cartoon pictures back to my childhood, and now as in big silver screen. Well, to some extent, I just love transformer itself not the way it shows or so.
BTW, I do not really care much about duration time of the movies. Good movies may probably never be thought of being too long to bear.
As someone above said, a movie is bad just because it is bad, not about the time it lasts, I suppose that right as well.
Optimus! biggrin.gif
post #131 of 275
Hey, actually, it doesn't matter if this movie is a classical and wonderful movie. We can also enjoy it if it is worth to watch. From my point of view, it is very normal that a movie is very long, we just should accept it and enjoy it .
post #132 of 275
I like movies when I care for characters, that usually needs some time. Otherwise the movie just becomes a roller coaster ride.
post #133 of 275
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

I like movies when I care for characters, that usually needs some time. Otherwise the movie just becomes a roller coaster ride.

but what if the movie is long and we still dont care about the characters?
Movies like battleship dont even try to develop characters. Those are the types of movies that have no business being over 2 hours.
post #134 of 275
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but what if the movie is long and we still dont care about the characters?
Movies like battleship dont even try to develop characters. Those are the types of movies that have no business being over 2 hours.

So basically it's good movies vs. bad movies. The title of the thread makes it sound like "all movies" are too long, which they're not. What might be too long for you is not for me, and vice versa. When we find a movie too long, that's because something went wrong somewhere, otherwise it shouldn't be a concern. Battleship has been mentioned more than once in this discussion and it's really a bad example, cause this movie just plain sucks, regardless of its length. Is Gone With The Wind too long? Is Titanic too long? Is Lawrence Of Arabia too long? Ben-Hur? Schindler? etc...
post #135 of 275
The thing about the OP's first post is that it is too general. Bad movies would be more tolerable if they were short, but the way it was worded was ALL movies could be better if they were shorter. That is simply not the case. I'm sure a re-edit of some crappy movies could make them marginally better, but I don't think it would be worth it.

One point I'm surprised nobody has made is when they make movies from books. There are very few (if any) movies based of a novel that I don't feel that something was missing. Maybe it's fluff, maybe not. They don't ever seem to be anywhere near as engaging as the novel they are based on. Granted, I wouldn't read a book that takes me 2hrs to read (not a short story) just because there wouldn't be a whole lot of depth to it.

But, as lots have said, a bad movie is a bad movie no matter what the length. Cutting out some of the more pointless scenes may make it "better", but it will still be a bad movie. You'll never be able to convince me that you could re-cut a movie and make it fantastic when the original cut was terrible. Alexander is a great example of this. I went to the theater to see it. Wish I hadn't. The ultra mega long director's cut couldn't make that movie better by adding more. Cutting it wouldn't have been better because they focused on the wrong parts of his story (IMHO). A total rewrite would have made the movie better, nothing else.

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So basically it's good movies vs. bad movies. The title of the thread makes it sound like "all movies" are too long, which they're not. What might be too long for you is not for me, and vice versa. When we find a movie too long, that's because something went wrong somewhere, otherwise it shouldn't be a concern. Battleship has been mentioned more than once in this discussion and it's really a bad example, cause this movie just plain sucks, regardless of its length. Is Gone With The Wind too long? Is Titanic too long? Is Lawrence Of Arabia too long? Ben-Hur? Schindler? etc...

I should learn to type faster.
post #136 of 275
+1

A bad movie is too long beginning with the title sequence wink.gif Unfortunately, sometimes it's tough to tell whether you will find a movie to be bad based on someone else's reviews. Sometimes the only way to find out is to just watch it and see what you think.
post #137 of 275
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+1
A bad movie is too long beginning with the title sequence wink.gif Unfortunately, sometimes it's tough to tell whether you will find a movie to be bad based on someone else's reviews. Sometimes the only way to find out is to just watch it and see what you think.

I quit listening to other people's opinions a long time ago.
post #138 of 275
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+1
A bad movie is too long beginning with the title sequence wink.gif

yep, a bad movie is a bad movie regardless of how long it is. but there are movies that are pretty good that could be made better if they were shorter. and probably a few movies that would be better if they were longer. in my experience, there are many more movies that could be made better by shortening the run time...especially comedies and action movies.
post #139 of 275
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

the biggest age group of transformer fans are 25-35 years old.
Transformers was huge in the late 80's

The Transformers movies are not made for people who actually grew up with Transformers in the '80s. They're made for those people's children.
post #140 of 275
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The Transformers movies are not made for people who actually grew up with Transformers in the '80s. They're made for those people's children.

Who says those people aren't still children? biggrin.gif
post #141 of 275
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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK View Post

Who says those people aren't still children? biggrin.gif

I didn't care for the Transformers as a kid but I like the movies... I'm a child in disguise! tongue.gifwink.gif
post #142 of 275
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

I didn't care for the Transformers as a kid but I like the movies... I'm a child in disguise! tongue.gifwink.gif
Growing up is terribly over-rated....just look at Josh.biggrin.gif
post #143 of 275
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The Transformers movies are not made for people who actually grew up with Transformers in the '80s. They're made for those people's children.

Actually Transformers is made for both nostalgic parents and their kids. Thats why they make the big money.
post #144 of 275
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Growing up is terribly over-rated....just look at Josh.biggrin.gif
You can always pick out the drinkers from the non-drinkers here.
post #145 of 275
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The Transformers movies are not made for people who actually grew up with Transformers in the '80s. They're made for those people's children.

Not yet, my kids are only 4 and 7, wink.gif I was partial to the Gobots anyway , but If I recall they were spun in, not off, into the transformers cartoons series.

Update,

Ah, you have to love wikipedia, seems Hasbro acquired the company that made the Gobots, now it all make sense.
post #146 of 275
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Originally Posted by sb1 View Post

You can always pick out the drinkers from the non-drinkers here.
You can only say, "WTF?" so many times a day, until you just decide to start drinking....
post #147 of 275
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Thank you kindly...ordered.smile.gif

mine came today and i popped in the first disk...

transfer is of vhs quality, watching on my pj... however, after the first 3 or 4 minutes, i completely forgot about the quality of transfer...

not that i'd decline a pristine transfer to blu... but this is "good enough"...

have a box of kleenex nearby... i'm a bit "leaky" to begin with, and this has gotten me 3 times in the first 45 minutes...
post #148 of 275
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

mine came today and i popped in the first disk...
transfer is of vhs quality, watching on my pj.....
Mine came today too.

It looked poor way back when on the PBS SD broadcasts.
However, alot of that has to do with the equipment used to film it.

No doubt a new HD master would help.
I am very surprised (considering its reputation) there hasn't been effort to do this...kind of a mystery...confused.gif
post #149 of 275
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

You can only say, "WTF?" so many times a day, until you just decide to start drinking....
You have it all backwards. You start drinking first, then you never have to say "WTF?" again. I have it down to a fine art, my friend.
post #150 of 275
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
actually, just cut out everything other than megan's bare midriff... tongue.gif

Lol yes!
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