Originally Posted by Richard Paul
I am very skeptical about your theory that the ITU UHDTV standard "is based on the research and proposal of the SMPTE and not on ITU own research" since that goes against everything I have read. For example there is the ITU press release
which said that an ITU study group has been working to develop UHDTV for years. In the past I have read several articles that mentioned the ITU study group on UHDTV. For example an article on page 14 of the December 2011 EBU Technical magazine
described how at the previous ITU meeting on UHDTV there was discussion about two color space systems and that a group had been made by the ITU specifically to evaluate them. As such I am curious to know if you have evidence to support your theory. What evidence do you have that the ITU didn't do research on UHDTV? What evidence do you have that the ITU UHDTV standard was a proposal from SMPTE?
I don't know exactly how to convince you. But consider this as an example:
All the government broadcasters in Europe have R&D departments that work on developing future technology. They again attend EBU conferences where they share their findings. EBU also have joint conferences with SMPTE.
When UHDTV has been on the agenda for these conferences, NHK has always been invited to demonstrate UHDTV in praxis, because NHK is the only broadcaster that has the equipment.
NHK is the largest contributor to the UHDTV (and HD standard before that) because they do the "heavy work" by having Japanese manufacturer build Cameras, switchers and displays for them.
When NHK does big scale UHDTV tests, they have always done this together with mainly BBC, but also RAI.
The leader of the ITU study group 6 is the same man who is leader of the EBU Technology & Innovation Department Technical Committee.
ITU and EBU both have their headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland.
Notice that the ITU groups (there are many) that work on standards are called Study Groups.
They study the findings done in the R&D departments of various broadcasters and other commercial companies.
In the end the 190 ITU members decide on a standard (called a recommendation) based on the study of all the R&D work done by the broadcasters and manufacturers.
EBU and SMPTE (as an example) meets several times a year in joint conferences which are attended by members of broadcaster companies.
Like: SMPTE Forum on Emerging Media Technologies Organized in collaboration with the EBU in Geneva 13-15 May 2012.
Even when the UHDTV standard is agreed upon in the ITU, SMPTE and EBU have conferences where UHDTV is one of the agendas.
Like; SMPTE and EBU driving media innovation at Geneva meetings 14 September 2012
In the immediate aftermath of IBC 2012, technology experts are meeting in Geneva at the EBU for the SMPTE engineering meetings.
During four days they will drive for innovation and new standards in media.
The Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) has a long history of collaborating with the EBU in the technical domain, so it's no surprise that the event also attracted a strong presence from European broadcasters presence with participants from, for example, the UK, Norway and Bulgaria.
The 80 or so technology experts present have discussed various new developments and the potential need for standardization to enhance interoperability, and thus increase efficiency in professional media production.
Highlights so far have been presentations on LED light measurements (NRK, BBC, EBU), media storage performance evaluations (BBC), EIDR (MovieLabs) and an MXF open source project. Further to this it was announced that the FIMS specification, fresh from its IBC Judges' Prize has been submitted to SMPTE.
Over the weekend the meetings will continue, discussing in particular Ultra High Definition TV, with a presentation by NHK; Essence and Compression formats; Television and Broadband; Networks and Interfaces; and new work in Digital Cinema.
Sunday will be taken up by a strategic discussion session on Metadata, followed in the afternoon by the SMPTE Standards Committee, which acts as a steering platform for all activities.
Everybody likes to tell people of their contribution to future TV standards:
4K and 8K UHDTV defined
Lieven Vermaele, EBU Director of Technology and Development commented: "Facilitating these superb pictures hasn't been made possible overnight - this represents over ten years of technical discussion and experiment. It has been a long journey - but we are delighted to have arrived at this point and pleased that the EBU has been able to make a contribution to broadcasting history."
A last example of who the ITU groups consist of and where they actually work. Here are the chairmen who administer the various Working Parties consisting of contributing member from all over the world who are really employed at other companies.ITU Working Party 6C (WP 6C) Group Chairmen and Vice-Chairmen
Chairman Working Party 6C
M. David WOODEuropean Broadcasting Union (EBU)
Vice-Chairmen Working Party 6C
M. Vittorio BARONCINI, Italy.
Mr. Spencer LIENGAustralian Broadcasting Corporation
Mr. Craig TODDDolby Laboratories
Here you can check out the Chairmen of the other Study Groups and at which companies they are employed; ITU Study Groups.
So to conclude:
ITU doesn't have independent R&D laboratories that develop various standards or have technical employees (except for some administration posts) that are not employed somewhere else, but are collaborations between many organisations that in the end settles for global standard in the United Nations organisation 190 members International Telecommunication Union (ITU).Edited by coolscan - 9/19/12 at 5:25am