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post #691 of 825
Hello! I made the mistake of ordering the 62FD before reading SmackRabbit's review.

Anyone test the Spears and Munsil disc on a 62FD with the latest firmware, to see if the chroma problem is still there? Does it improve if you set the output to RGB?

Thanks in advance.

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post #692 of 825
what exactly is Cinavia and why is this blu ray player keep being referred as a transport player?
post #693 of 825
Cinavia is a copy-protection scheme required for Blu-ray players built after February 2010 (I think), where the audio track of a movie is specially encoded such that the player will stop playback after 20 minutes of play. It is a form of watermarking that so far no one has been able to remove from the audio track. Any player that wishes to use the full funcionality of the Blu-ray specification (menus, Java, etc.) is required to have this feature as part of the Blu-ray license.

A transport player would most likely refer to the lack of multichannel analog audio outputs. The audio would primarily be sent only digitally through the HDMI interface. Hence, it would be a "transport".
post #694 of 825
Question ???
I bought this player open box from BBuy for 100.00. I have not connected to my HT yet. Already have a panny BD player 220 connected.
It states in the manual to get the best picture run both HDMI out main and sub. 1 to the TV and 1 to the AVR.
Right now all my HDMI connections go into the the receiver and out into the DVP 5000 DARBLET and then into the TV.
Is there a splitter as I would like to run the 62fd in the Darblet chain as well. Trying to make sure I'm going to get the best picture or does it really matter.

Thanks for any info....
post #695 of 825
I use two different J-Tech Digital HDMI splitters, one is 1x2 another1x4. Both works great for almost a year now. I also have same brand 2x4 matrix, works great as well. All purchased on amazon.
post #696 of 825
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Originally Posted by esdwa View Post

I use two different J-Tech Digital HDMI splitters, one is 1x2 another1x4. Both works great for almost a year now. I also have same brand 2x4 matrix, works great as well. All purchased on amazon.

Thanks for the info. I went ahead and connected to the main HDMI port out of the 62fd to the in port HDMI VCR/DVR on the ONKYO-809 and out with the rest to the Darbee. So the panny-220 is still there.
I must say the 62fd is much quieter when loading disc and loads really quick. I also think the 62fd shows a much better picture than the panny-220.
I'm a happy camper right now !!biggrin.gif
post #697 of 825
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Originally Posted by Ray77085 View Post

I must say the 62fd is much quieter when loading disc and loads really quick. I also think the 62fd shows a much better picture than the panny-220.
I'm a happy camper right now !!biggrin.gif
Totally opposite experience in my case with the subject player vs. my BDT500 which is totally quiet. The 62FD is awfully loud when turned on which has been confirmed by other users and proves the pioneer quality in that matter is not improving.
post #698 of 825
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Originally Posted by esdwa View Post

Totally opposite experience in my case with the subject player vs. my BDT500 which is totally quiet. The 62FD is awfully loud when turned on which has been confirmed by other users and proves the pioneer quality in that matter is not improving.

Sorry to hear about that. I don't have the BDT500. I have the 220 and it's a great player. I never said anything about powering up the units. I don't own any Pioneer gear with the exception of the recently purchased 62-fd which I'm pleased with.
That may not be case if I paid the full price for it ( I don't like the remote, the on screen menu and the amber color display on the face when powered on). But for 100.00 open box with no damages, with a registered Pioneer warranty and a great picture that beats the 220 panny I'm a happy camper.
post #699 of 825
Try $400 for multiregion with true hardware free and pal to ntsc conversion and 50 to 60p upscaling.

Well, I am not complaining for playback quality at all. It is just that the laser head mechanism could have been done better. Cause right now it sounds like my 25 yrs old 5.25 inch floppy on IBM PC AT which I resurrected recently to donate it to local museum of technology.
post #700 of 825

I picked one up for $125 w/ remote at a local best buy about a month ago and I have almost nothing bad to say about it.  I find it quiet, the picture is as good as I have ever seen on my TV, and the SACD 5.1 sound quality is the best I have ever heard at home.  I didn't know my speakers (NHT 2.5i's, matching center and super zeros) could sound so good.  The CD performance lacks nothing either.  I am very happy.  The one bad thing, the remote has a very narrow angle of operation, I had to move the unit in my rack or lean way over to get it to work.  I just hope it holds up.

post #701 of 825
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Originally Posted by doctor dumas View Post

I picked one up for $125 w/ remote at a local best buy about a month ago and I have almost nothing bad to say about it.  I find it quiet, the picture is as good as I have ever seen on my TV, and the SACD 5.1 sound quality is the best I have ever heard at home.  I didn't know my speakers (NHT 2.5i's, matching center and super zeros) could sound so good.  The CD performance lacks nothing either.  I am very happy.  The one bad thing, the remote has a very narrow angle of operation, I had to move the unit in my rack or lean way over to get it to work.  I just hope it holds up.

Glad you are happy with your unit. I have never had a SACD player. So I would be interested in buying a few so I can hear the difference. I already have plenty of CD's.
Do you mind posting some of your SACD titles ?
Thanks.
post #702 of 825
I tried couple of SACD on this Pioneer, one Celine Dion New Day Has Come, another was Dire Straits Brothers in Arms, average sound, same sounding like from same CD that I own as well. Unlike from my 10 old Denon CD/DVD/SACD 2900 player which makes SACDs astonishing sound.
This shows how poor mainstream Pioneer players became, cheap components, cheap design, etc.

Both compared using Yamaha gear A-S500, RX-S600 and 4 pairs of speakers JBL L90 and 4312c, B&W CM4 as well as Polk Audio RTiA3.
post #703 of 825

I don't have a lot of 5.1 titles, but I have heard these on the Pioneer:

 

Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon-  a demo SACD but not one I will listen to often.  Amazing effects, gets hard if you turn it up too much, at least on my system.

 

Bob Dylan-Blood on the Tracks-  Amazing, I felt i was sitting in a circle in a living room with the musicians, the music just flowed all around me.

 

James Taylor-Hourglass-  beautiful, especially Gaia.

 

Alison Krauss- New Favorite-  good luck finding this one, but it is great as are the other ones from Alison Krauss, but they are not 5.1, just stereo

 

I have the first 4 Elton John SACD's on the way, they are supposed to be great too.

 

I have a bunch of 2 channel SACD's most sound great.  Some stand outs are

 

Keb MO,  The Door

Ben Webster meets Oscar Peterson

almost all of the Rolling Stones SACD's

The Best of John Denver Live

 

5.1 takes a while to get used to with music coming from every where, but it does make a whole new listening experience.

post #704 of 825
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Originally Posted by doctor dumas View Post

I don't have a lot of 5.1 titles, but I have heard these on the Pioneer:

Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon-  a demo SACD but not one I will listen to often.  Amazing effects, gets hard if you turn it up too much, at least on my system.

Bob Dylan-Blood on the Tracks-  Amazing, I felt i was sitting in a circle in a living room with the musicians, the music just flowed all around me.

James Taylor-Hourglass-  beautiful, especially Gaia.

Alison Krauss- New Favorite-  good luck finding this one, but it is great as are the other ones from Alison Krauss, but they are not 5.1, just stereo

I have the first 4 Elton John SACD's on the way, they are supposed to be great too.

I have a bunch of 2 channel SACD's most sound great.  Some stand outs are

Keb MO,  The Door
Ben Webster meets Oscar Peterson
almost all of the Rolling Stones SACD's
The Best of John Denver Live

5.1 takes a while to get used to with music coming from every where, but it does make a whole new listening experience.

Thanks so much for taking time to post. I really do appreciate it ! I will try some of those out.biggrin.gif
post #705 of 825
Would anyone think that the pioneer elite dv79 would be better as a sacd dvd audio player only than the 62?
post #706 of 825
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Originally Posted by Ray77085 View Post

Question ???
I bought this player open box from BBuy for 100.00. I have not connected to my HT yet. Already have a panny BD player 220 connected.
It states in the manual to get the best picture run both HDMI out main and sub. 1 to the TV and 1 to the AVR.
Right now all my HDMI connections go into the the receiver and out into the DVP 5000 DARBLET and then into the TV.
Is there a splitter as I would like to run the 62fd in the Darblet chain as well. Trying to make sure I'm going to get the best picture or does it really matter.

Thanks for any info....

I recently got the 62FD at BB open box for $110 and have it running with my Elite SC-63. I have all my inputs going to the AVR with a single output to the display (Panny P60VT60). What does running both HDMI out main and sub to the TV and the AVR give in terms of PQ that the single output from the AVR to the display? I'm all ears when it comes to improving PQ. THanks.
post #707 of 825
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gcannon0317 View Post

I recently got the 62FD at BB open box for $110 and have it running with my Elite SC-63. I have all my inputs going to the AVR with a single output to the display (Panny P60VT60). What does running both HDMI out main and sub to the TV and the AVR give in terms of PQ that the single output from the AVR to the display? I'm all ears when it comes to improving PQ. THanks.

hooking up the 62-FD that way ..or another.. does nothing for P.Q
post #708 of 825
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Jarrod2750 View Post

Would anyone think that the pioneer elite dv-79 would be better as a sacd dvd audio player only than the 62?
..well to be honest when ..you compare the two player by spec..for spec ..hands down the 62-fd wins..but if build quality..and a robust chassis.. is what you like then thats goes to the dv-79 ..but when it comes to sound quality . the both players are on par ..as... DAC's are 192-khz/24-bit ..picture quality 62-FD wins ..thanks to Qdeo-M ..but i think as from an audiophile
perspective..the dv-79 would be their choice... seeing the analog outputs on the dv-79 ... would be used .. but to your question it comes down to taste..some like digital..others analog ..which is best thats up to you...but both players are great audio players ..some love the sound of analog and the clutter that comes with it..and some love the digital sound and the simple one cable setup that comes with it..
but let me say ..if you are comparing the two player sound quality ..the 62-FD has a slight edge on the dv-79 ..if you pair it with one of pioneer's PQLS compatible AVR'S ...
post #709 of 825
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Originally Posted by pioneertop View Post

hooking up the 62-FD that way ..or another.. does nothing for P.Q

Thanks. OK, now I'm curious why Pioneer recommends using both vs a single HDMI out if not to improve PQ.
post #710 of 825
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gcannon0317 View Post

Thanks. OK, now I'm curious why Pioneer recommends using both vs a single HDMI out if not to improve PQ.

ok..well does recommendations ..are for those that don't have modern 3D compatible AVR's ..which can't decode the latest audio codecs like DTS-HD and DD+ D-TRUE/ HD ..
so if you have the 62-FD you can use your old AVR ..still ...until you find the money to buy a new AVR..lol .. the main HDMI goes to the monitor/tv ..and the sub to the AVR...
post #711 of 825
My local BB is sold out, can anyone find one for me? I'll reimburse.

Cheers, Michael
post #712 of 825
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Originally Posted by pioneertop View Post

ok..well does recommendations ..are for those that don't have modern 3D compatible AVR's ..which can't decode the latest audio codecs like DTS-HD and DD+ D-TRUE/ HD ..
so if you have the 62-FD you can use your old AVR ..still ...until you find the money to buy a new AVR..lol .. the main HDMI goes to the monitor/tv ..and the sub to the AVR...

Since I have an Elite SC-63 AVR with all those capabilities, then the single HDMI out to the display it as good as using two HDMI out to AVR and display?
post #713 of 825
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gcannon0317 View Post

Since I have an Elite SC-63 AVR with all those capabilities, then the single HDMI out to the display it as good as using two HDMI out to AVR and display?
yes ..thats all...you are good to go... now if you have a tv..and a projector then the dual outputs can be used main to tv and sub to projector ...other than that you will not get any better picture quality ...both outputs..are identical...
post #714 of 825
I bought a BDP62-FD new in January, would not play a burned blu ray. Exchanged, new one did play fine, but when I went to connect to Netflix (I am hardwired) it freezes. I then have to hold the power on button on the receiver till it restarts, and then I connect to Netflix and all is well. Pioneer support says I have to return the unit to Pioneer to be repaired. That means about $20 to ship back insured because they won't let a repair shop work on a blu ray. That stinks.

To have these troubles with a $399.99 blu ray is really poor. I had previously sold PIoneer Products for almost nine years, and am very disappointed they won't treat a customer better than this. If it were a $79 blu ray that would be understandable, but not a BDP-62FD. Pioneer is losing the professionals who always spoke out for the quality and reputation of this company. But not any more.
post #715 of 825
"when I went to connect to Netflix (I am hardwired) it freezes. I then have to hold the power on button on the receiver till it restarts, and then I connect to Netflix and all is well. "

Hello Mrpauls,

Before you return your 62 for repairs may I suggest something to you that you can try and then report back to this thread?

I'm also hardwired with my 62 and what I have found is that when you turn on the player you have to wait about 30-40 seconds (- or + seconds) before you press and activate the Netflix option. Otherwise, if you press the Netflix button immediately after turning on the unit it will freeze and hang as you describe.

I don't know why but I can only speculate that the 62 does not immediately recognize an internet connection when turned on and for some reason is slow to making the necessary handshakes to first connect to the internet and secondly connecting to the Netflix account option. Another way to desribe it is the 62 may not be able to process all the steps simultaneously and the unit crashes when Netflix is activated without a confirmed internet connection first.

I feel your frustrations with the 62 as this player does have it quirks and a lot of us owners on this forum have had to learn to put up and deal with them. But overall I like this player, however, I just relish the day that Pioneer puts out a newer firmware to keep us 62 owners happy. Otherwise, we are going to look elsewhere for our next blu-ray player purchases.

Take care.
Edited by Edllguy - 11/4/13 at 9:16am
post #716 of 825
Purchased an open box at BB couple weeks ago, I want to get wireless up and running on this. Have networking questions. What is the best way to do get wireless access up and running on this player - seems I have should have a couple options:

a) Run wireless adapter to receiver and piggyback off receiver
b) Run wireless adapter directly to player


Can someone recommend best way to do this and a good reasonably priced wireless adapter for this device?
post #717 of 825
All - a new firmware version for the BDP-62FD (v2.12) is available from Pioneer's website.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/BDP-62FD
post #718 of 825
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Originally Posted by mrpeteyguy View Post

All - a new firmware version for the BDP-62FD (v2.12) is available from Pioneer's website.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/BDP-62FD

This update may not have all the kinks worked out of it - the update seemed to take, but when the player restarts, it freezes at the Pioneer logo, unresponsive to any commands. Holding down the power button restarts the player, but it freezes again at the same spot. Removing the network cable from the player allows it to boot and work properly.
post #719 of 825
I had similar issues...try unplugging the power cable after the update - that's the only way I got it to work without freezing. Not sure who QA'ed this firmware - I agree, not a smooth process.
post #720 of 825
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Originally Posted by jthomp27 View Post

I had similar issues...try unplugging the power cable after the update - that's the only way I got it to work without freezing. Not sure who QA'ed this firmware - I agree, not a smooth process.

Thanks jthomp - I tried updating again, and left it unplugged for a while after the update completed. Again, it won't function if the LAN cable is plugged in. I thought it might be something on my network, but I hooked it up to a different router with a different subnet, and it still would not work.
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