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Can i go 130" screen with Epson 8500ub ?

post #1 of 26
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Hi can i go 130" screen with my epson 8500 ub. I'm thinking of using a seymour xd white with 1.2 gain.

I can place the projector at any distance from the screen and i will be ceiling mounted it. My wall are dark burgundy and my ceiling is black. I use it at night with full control of the lights.

If i'm pushing it at 130" i can drop to 120" or 125".

What would you recommend.
post #2 of 26
Using the 8700 as it's almost the same pj, according to http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/ you should be fine out to about 14'-15' distance from the screen, at that size/gain.
post #3 of 26
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Using the 8700 as it's almost the same pj, according to http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/ you should be fine out to about 14'-15' distance from the screen, at that size/gain.

Something doesn't sound right i would only have about 12 fl at that size.
Is anybody doing 130" with good results.

Thanks
post #4 of 26
"Foot Lambert units are used to measure screen image brightness. To give you a mental benchmark for foot lambert brightness, a quality movie theater will have a screen brightness of 12 to 16 ft. lamberts in a darkened room. A new fresh plasma will have an output of approximately 40 to 45 foot lamberts and is normally viewed with some room lights present."

You mentioned you had a darkened room, but you can bump the gain up to 1.3 and move the pj closer, within 13', and still get almost 14 fl, in low lamp mode. Not as bright as some of the newer Epsons, but doable in a light controlled environment. Drop the screen size down to 120" and you can push that up to around 16.5 fl, also on low lamp mode.

I'm getting about 15.9 fl with "low lamp mode" on my Epson 6010, 126" screen, 1.3 gain, 15' throw, and its bright enough that I have a 60 w light on app. 16' from the screen, no issue with even some ambient light.

Good discussion here, incl. talk of lamp dimming and it's effects on a calibrated pj. Check it out, you may decide to go to a smaller screen.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1217189/can-i-get-a-150in-screen-with-an-epson-8500ub
Edited by jnabq - 9/10/12 at 10:00pm
post #5 of 26
I have a 130" screen with my 8700ub and it works GREAT. I ONLY use the theater black2 setting, and never use those super bright settings. And I ONLY use the economy setting on the lamp. No problems whatsoever, It's more than bright enough. My screen is 1.2 gain, and I have pretty shiny tile floors, and light colored walls and ceiling . Before I bought mine, I had some people say it wouldn't be bright enough based on the calculators, but they were wrong, It looks awesome. Of course, I use it in a darkened room, not sure how it would work with a good amount of sunlight coming in.
post #6 of 26
I have a 800 sq.ft. room with 17 ft. ceilings running a 8700 at 206" screen size (appx. 16' X 9') and it is THE place to be for everyone I know (and don't know for that matter). Looks awesome to everyone, although on SD channels it definitely gets a little grainy. Here is the best part, NO ONE CARES because it is such a big screen that it just doesn't matter. So for me, screen size makes ALL the difference and the 6500's, 8500's and the 8700's can do this without a problem (I have had them all).
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your replys. I'm a little more assured about my projector.
I put up the size of the screen on the wall , with some masking tape so that I can get a better idea , and man does 130" look big when you do it this way.

I had a 92" screen for seven years with a Mitsubishi hd 1000u, and an I focus 4805. It's time for me now to bring my ht passion to a new level. I can't wait to see it up and running soon !

Thanks
post #8 of 26
I run a 153" seymour Xd screen and the 8500Ub, no problems. It looks great. I'm 6'4" for perspective.



colors look off, but they're not.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by Crabalocker View Post

I run a 153" seymour Xd screen and the 8500Ub, no problems. It looks great. I'm 6'4" for perspective.

colors look off, but they're not.

Wow! Thats looks like a beutifull picture.

Do you run your setup on low light or regular, and i quess to have a screen like that , you must have full control of the lights , and dark colored wall's?

That's what i call taking ht to the next level .
I was originaly thinking of having a 140" screen. It works if i run the light at regular.
I only use it for movies and some hockey in the winter . I use up about 400 hours per year. I think i might just run the bulb on regular and go with my original 140"

Ps i'm only 5 foot 10" so 140" will have have the same effect as yours. Lol
Edited by tank01 - 9/12/12 at 10:00am
post #10 of 26
i was wondering if you could show how the picture quality with the lights on and i love the screen i wish i had the space for it
post #11 of 26
I usually never watch in complete darkness, I always have a bit of ambient light. Of course if there is too much light the image gets washed out but with some ambient light, it looks great IMHO.

I always watch in best mode, which I find is theater Black1. The only time I use one of the brighter modes is when I play PS3. (I never run the bulb in Eco always normal. Not because it can't handle it...I don't know, I just do.)

Sadly, the image is starting to dim (1900 hours) and instead of investing in a new bulb I will be investing that money towards the new 5020 or 6020. The image is still very watchable but just seems to be a bit darker than I remember. That is a knock against going big, you might have to change the bulb a bit more frequent than someone with a 110" screen. But having the big screen is worth it ...for me!
post #12 of 26
im hoping to get a 6020 when they come out but my goal is to have a screen as big as yours my only fear is that the image will be washed out when i watch sports with the lights or if i have a super bowl party and things of that nature
post #13 of 26
No you can watch sports with more lights on but you'll have to use a brighter mode that's all. The projected image on the screen still looks great with all the lights on and a brighter mode you just don't get as deep a black as you would while watching a movie but you don't really care about the black levels while watching football.
post #14 of 26
if its possible can u post a pic of it
post #15 of 26
I'll get a pic in the next few days and I will do a quick video of a football both during the day and at night with both lights on and dimmed.
post #16 of 26
thanks a lot. man i can wait if you had a youtube channel you would have a lot of view
post #17 of 26
Here is a shot with my lights all the way up on a Epson 8350. My screen is 158" in 2:35:1, but just 124" in 16:9 so it's smaller than what you are thinking of doing but maybe this will help anyway.

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Here is all lights off

085-1.jpg

For me sports and tv watching are plenty bright with the lights on, usually I prefer it that way. When I take the masking panels out for movies and zoom to 2:35:1 for 158 inches I of course turn the lights off.
post #18 of 26
man that looks great what type of screen do u have
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by dking5679 View Post

man that looks great what type of screen do u have

Thanks, it's a painted wall. I used Valspar Ultra Premium interior latex Enamel in flat finish tinted to match Sherwin-Williams 'Gray Screen'. Very cheap, looks great - no hot spots, sparklies, etc. and looks great with ambient light and just enough gray to help boost contrast.
Edited by carp - 9/14/12 at 5:22pm
post #20 of 26
i love the set up what kind of speakers do u have and i didnt know the epson had an anamorphic lens
post #21 of 26
It doesn't, I use the poor man's zoom method for switching back and forth between 2:35:1. My speakers are elemental designs cinema 12's. The company just went under, horrible/dishonest management. I still love these speakers though.
post #22 of 26
Thread Starter 
Carp that's a really nice setup, i really like the black wall behind the screen, it goes nice with all the white walls. That's a really nice big screen and an amazing sound system.
post #23 of 26
Thanks tank, appreciate it. I have changed subs since that picture from JTR Captivators to Seaton Submersives (lateral move based on personal preference) but everything else is the same.
post #24 of 26
how did u make your lens for 2.35
post #25 of 26
He zooms the projector to fill the screen. The black bars are still there, just above and below the 2.35 screen and then unzooms for 16:9 to keep the same image height.
post #26 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bassage View Post

I have a 130" screen with my 8700ub and it works GREAT. I ONLY use the theater black2 setting, and never use those super bright settings. And I ONLY use the economy setting on the lamp. No problems whatsoever, It's more than bright enough. My screen is 1.2 gain, and I have pretty shiny tile floors, and light colored walls and ceiling . Before I bought mine, I had some people say it wouldn't be bright enough based on the calculators, but they were wrong, It looks awesome. Of course, I use it in a darkened room, not sure how it would work with a good amount of sunlight coming in.

I tried dynamic mode and i"m pretty impressed with how good the over all image is.
How would you rate the image on the dymamic color setting. Theator black 1 for me is outstanding but maybe i could use dynamic till my next upgrade, what your thoughts on that.
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