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post #31 of 112
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Plant is in my top 5 of guys to run into in a bar. Ringo, McCartney, Springsteen, Townsend would be my others.
My top 3 guys to hang in a bar would be... Keith Moon, Bonzo and Jim Morrison! They'd have to close that bar shortly afterward! biggrin.gif
post #32 of 112
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I strongly disagree with your opinion, especially regarding LZ3 onwards. IMO, most of Led Zeppelin's studio albums are actually excellent examples of what a hard rock band *should* sound like, both in the way the band (especially Bonham) was mic'd and recorded as well as how Page produced the records often with numerous complicated guitar overdubs. It may not sound great on an iPod through earbuds, but on a decent stereo system and speakers or quality headphones, they more than hold up against anything recorded during the 60's through late 70's.
No, more than likely, everything would be overdriven and brick-walled. See recent releases by bands like Van Halen, Rush and Killing Joke for examples of bands that have fallen victim to "modern" recording and producing fads.

The Japanese LP pressing of "Physical Grafitti" is outstanding. Mastered to really let you hit the volume without worrying about dynamics/compression.
post #33 of 112
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I strongly disagree with your opinion, especially regarding LZ3 onwards. IMO, most of Led Zeppelin's studio albums are actually excellent examples of what a hard rock band *should* sound like, both in the way the band (especially Bonham) was mic'd and recorded as well as how Page produced the records often with numerous complicated guitar overdubs.
Really?
Overall most of their tracks seem rather flat, then there's the infamous squeaky Speed King (commonly referred to as the "Squeak King") bass drum petal from Bonzo's kit which is painfully evident over several studio albums (probably at it's worst on "Since I've Been Loving You" but also evident on "All my Love", "The Ocean", "The Rain Song", "Ten Years Gone", and "Bonzos Montreux") and continues all the way through to their last studio album. Some side two tracks of Led Zeppelin IV ("Misty Mountain Hop", "Four Sticks", and "When the Levee Breaks" ) sound like they were recorded in a bag of mud with hardly any dynamic range.

IMO- Presence (1976) has the best recording quality of the 'legacy' albums, Zeppelin IV has the poorest recording quality and "In Through the Out Door" is as good as it gets for a 1979 era recording.
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....they more than hold up against anything recorded during the 60's through late 70's.
The MFSL remaster of "Days of Future Passed" (1967) sounds better than any LZ album recorded before Presence, and the remaster of "The Dark Side of the Moon" (1973) sounds better than any Zeppelin studio album period.
post #34 of 112
Can we all agree the LZ catalog needs to be honored with SACD Hybrids?wink.gif
post #35 of 112
Saw 'em at the first Atlanta Pop Festival in 1969, within a year of their formation. I think they may have even played Saturday and Sunday; they were at that time not headliners. At one point a tall guy with long hair, stark naked, ran onstage and was tackled and removed; Plant at one point after one of his many screams finished off with "I'm f***ing up''. At concerts' end he sort of apologized and said that they had completely exhausted all the songs they knew. It was so hot that the local fire department sent out a pumper truck and hosed down a happy audience; it was around 100º. Saw them four years later at the old, lately decidedly non lamented Fulton County Stadium, and they still remembered that day and how hot it was.

As far as films go, I thought The Song Remains the Same was a big bore. I saw that tour and when I saw it it was much more interesting. Now How the West Was Won, that's how I remember Led Zeppelin.

And I listend to a nice early pressing of the first album lately on my very good system, and it's engineering was absolutely first-rate. Back in the summer of 1969 just about everybody had that on 8-Track tape.
post #36 of 112
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Can we all agree the LZ catalog needs to be honored with SACD Hybrids?wink.gif

Although I have an SACD player, I think a Blu-Ray audio disc would have a wider appeal. I'd buy either one though as long as the quality was there.
post #37 of 112
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Although I have an SACD player, I think a Blu-Ray audio disc would have a wider appeal. I'd buy either one though as long as the quality was there.
I was thinking in terms of being able to play in a car's CD player.smile.gif
post #38 of 112
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I didn't see anything on a 'How the West was Won' Blu Ray release... Be nice.
post #39 of 112
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I didn't see anything on a 'How the West was Won' Blu Ray release... Be nice.

Because there is none. HTWWW is available on CD and was available on DVD-AUDIO multi-channel. You can still get the DVD-Audio new for $400.00 on Amazon or used for $79.00. smile.gif I heard good and bad about the multi-channel mix.

How the West Was Won is Zeppelin pretty much at their pinnacle, although I love the raw power of the group in 68/69.
post #40 of 112
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... I listend to a nice early pressing of the first album lately on my very good system, and it's engineering was absolutely first-rate.
Agreed- the first album was very well done- especially considering their budget and how quickly it was completed.

That's why I'm so disappointed by the recording quality of later albums- especially LZ IV. It's not like they were a 2nd rate band in 1971... and shouldn't care what they were releasing.
FWIW- I just looked up ZL IV on wikipedia and it seems they employed a very convoluted recording/mixing workflow on this album with several different locations in the mix. According to the article "the mix ultimately proved to be less than satisfactory, creating an unwanted delay in the album's release. Further mixing had to be undertaken in London, pushing the final release date back by some months". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_IV
Perhaps that's why some of the tracks on IV sound so dreadful...
post #41 of 112
Remember IV was recorded in a house. A lovely house, but still. Check out It Might Get Loud.
post #42 of 112
[quote name="replayrob" url="/t/1429169/led-zeppelin-celebration-day-coming-to-blu-ray-november-22-2012-looks-awesomely-promising/30#post_224020
The MFSL remaster of "Days of Future Passed" (1967) sounds better than any LZ album recorded before Presence, and the remaster of "The Dark Side of the Moon" (1973) sounds better than any Zeppelin studio album period.[/quote]

The DTS 5.1 CD of DAYS is one of the crown jewels of my music library.
post #43 of 112
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Can we all agree the LZ catalog needs to be honored with SACD Hybrids?wink.gif

Although I have an SACD player, I think a Blu-Ray audio disc would have a wider appeal. I'd buy either one though as long as the quality was there.
Just HiRez PCM files for download would do just fine, too. Cheaper than making a BD. Hopefully Eagle Rock Entertainment does the Celebration BD.
post #44 of 112
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Just HiRez PCM files for download would do just fine, too.
As long as I can use it in my cars, I'm good.
Zep is great Road Music.wink.gif
post #45 of 112
Led Zep was my favourite band growing up but after discovering how much of their work was stolen from other artists (and a lot of it being their signature songs) it's left a bad taste. I know many artists plagerize but they took it to an obscene level. The entire beginning of Stairway To Heaven (even though its a song I hate) being totally ripped off note for note from an obscure struggling artist was something they could get away with back in the early 70's but if they were starting nowadays they would be spending more time in the courtroom than the recording studio.
post #46 of 112
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The entire beginning of Stairway To Heaven (even though its a song I hate) being totally ripped off note for note from an obscure struggling artist .
Link please.confused.gif
post #47 of 112
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Link please.confused.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfI66yQUkk
post #48 of 112
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfI66yQUkk

Compelling... but no different than the Rap artists of today bastardizing other rock classics as they incorporate portions of classics into their rap songs.
post #49 of 112
There's a long tradition in the blues for people to use songs over and over, each artist modifying things. The members of Cream, to their credit, saw to it that Skip James got money from their version of I'm So Glad, enabling him to live several years longer than he would have otherwise.

And as far as rappers sampling stuff for their songs, Frank Zappa when he was alive would take them to court.
post #50 of 112
While as many has pointed out, starting the night of this show, the vocals may not hit the notes Plant once could but that really shouldn't stop anyone from getting this. His voice has other qualities now. Much like Bob Dylan who sounds nothing like he used to but still sounds great on his new album.

I go to a lot of concerts. ALOT. A couple of thousand by now. I've seen Springsteen in New Jersey at small venues, I've seen U2 while they were still a small band, I've seen Stevie Ray Vaughn in Austin etc etc. (OK end of braggin) and I may have seen better overall shows eventhough it'll be hard to name many. But I never have and I'm sure I never will feel the excitment and energy in the O2 arena in 2007. And I'm not even that big a Led Zep fan. Not among my Top 25 bands.

There was a sense of electricity in the air for hours before the show. The other acts that played did a few songs each with a house band and they were all done in about 70 minutes. Then the excitment went even higher. There was a short introduction about the bands early days and Ahmet Ertegun. When the drums for God Times kicked in the whole place (22.000) just blew up. I have no idea how well that will all transfer to film. The trailer looks promising but that remains to be seen.

Either way if you're any kind of Led Zeppelin fan there is no way you can pass on this if the AV quality is good. Having listened to bootlegs of this show for almost 5 years I'm for one very excited to see this released.
post #51 of 112
They should have played a few more acoustic songs. I found the setlist a bit boring. I might even buy the Robert Plant BD instead since I like the things he do now more then the old zep stuf...
post #52 of 112
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Originally Posted by NJPete View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfI66yQUkk
The video isn't entirely clear regarding the comparison.

Let's listen to the piece without the overlapping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJUdnTKlP1E&feature=related

As Jeff pointed out, it is intriguing.
However, it isn't likely someone would confuse Stairway To Heaven with it.

As someone once pointed out, there is no such thing as an original note of music.wink.gif
post #53 of 112
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The video isn't entirely clear regarding the comparison.
Let's listen to the piece without the overlapping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJUdnTKlP1E&feature=related
As Jeff pointed out, it is intriguing.
However, it isn't likely someone would confuse Stairway To Heaven with it.
As someone once pointed out, there is no such thing as an original note of music.wink.gif

Moreover, it was 40 years ago... at this point, who gives a ****!
post #54 of 112
This has to be some sort of record for number of different configurations for this release:

STREET DATE: MONDAY, 11/19/12

LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (2CD)(Digi-pak)
UPC: 081227971014
SEL#: 532633
SRP: $19.98
Amazon ASIN: B009E3EZNC
http://www.amazon.com/Celebration-Da...dp/B009E3EZNC/

Barnes & Noble: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cele...pelin/25227011


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (2CD)(Softpak)(No plastic holder)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: CD
UPC: 081227970994
SEL#: 532631
SRP: $19.98
AMAZON ASIN: B009E9QOEO

Import CD: http://www.importcds.com/Movies/2505...on-Day-Blu-Ray


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (Single Blu-ray)(AUDIO ONLY)
48K 24 bit PCM stereo and DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 surround sound audio only

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: BD
UPC: 081227971007
SEL#: 532634
SRP: $24.99

Import CD: http://www.importcds.com/Movies/2505...on-Day-Blu-Ray


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (Blu-Ray w/2CD) (Blu-ray Amaray-Sized Digipak)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: BX
UPC: 081227971076
SEL#: 532628
SRP: $34.95


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (2CD w/Blu-Ray) (Digipak)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: MX
UPC: 081227971083
SEL#: 532627
SRP: $34.98


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (2CD w/DVD) (Amaray-Sized Digipak)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: DX
UPC: 081227971090
SEL#: 532625
SRP: $29.95


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (2CD w/DVD) (Digipak)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: CX
UPC: 081227971106
SEL#: 532624
SRP: $29.98


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (Deluxe)(2CD w/Blu-Ray & DVD)(Digipak in slipcase)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: MX
UPC: 081227971038
SEL#: 532630
SRP: $44.98


LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (Deluxe)(2CD/2DVD) (Digipak in slipcase)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: CX
UPC: 081227971045
SEL#: 532629
SRP: $39.98

STREET DATE -- DEC. 31, 2012

LED ZEPPELIN / Celebration Day (3LP 180 Gram Vinyl)

DISTRO: WEA
CONFIG: A
UPC: 081227971021
SEL#: 532632
SRP: $49.98

Import CD: http://www.importcds.com/Music/25075...tion-Day-Vinyl
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post #56 of 112
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New teaser trailer. Lookin' good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HgP1BniSu4&feature=youtu.be

Nice! Excited to see this. cool.gif
post #57 of 112
To those wondering why it took 5 years to get released, when asked during the press conference JPJ said in Led Zeppelin time 5 years is like 5 minutes.tongue.gif

Deluxe Blu-Ray version is first day purchase for me. Would probably pay upwards of $100 for it.
post #58 of 112
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Originally Posted by Meteor|WAR View Post

To those wondering why it took 5 years to get released, when asked during the press conference JPJ said in Led Zeppelin time 5 years is like 5 minutes.tongue.gif

Deluxe Blu-Ray version is first day purchase for me. Would probably pay upwards of $100 for it.

Don't let Amazon hear you say that - it's currently $38.05 over there and needs to stay that low or go lower. biggrin.gif
post #59 of 112
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Don't let Amazon hear you say that - it's currently $38.05 over there and needs to stay that low or go lower. biggrin.gif

No doubt. That is already priced to high! eek.gif
post #60 of 112
Its Led Zeppelin. They will sell lots and lots at any price.
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