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post #211 of 785
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Originally Posted by signedup View Post

Also, I know absolutely nothing about the headphones you are using but... can they be hooked up like regular headphones with headphone plugs? I understand they are probably wireless but the receiver does have a headphone jack on the front.

I went through all the settings on my television and it didn't change anything, no sound! The Turtle Beaches are wireless only!
post #212 of 785
I understand they are wireless.. I'm assuming it has no plug for the transmitter to plug into the headphone jack, by your reaction. I had wireless headphones years ago that did. I've been out of home audio for quite a few years(25).

Can you get audio from the TV? Is there a picture?
post #213 of 785
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Originally Posted by signedup View Post

I understand they are wireless.. I'm assuming it has no plug for the transmitter to plug into the headphone jack by your reaction. I had wireless headphones years ago that did. I've been out of home audio for quite a few years(25).

They are surround headphones so the red/white connections would defeat the DD processing unfortunately . I just went through the entire pdf manual and it appears that you cannot adjust the surround mode with the remote. Unbelievable........I hope I'm wrong and someone can chime in with a way to do this!
post #214 of 785
That sucks. I wasn't referring to the rca jacks on the front I was talking about the "Phones" jack on the front.. Maybe I'm just too old.. LOL
post #215 of 785
Look, if you can get the headphones to work with the xbox hooked up directly to the tv then it should work when you hook the xbox up through the receiver. Its the same signal being passed through.
post #216 of 785
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Originally Posted by signedup View Post

That sucks. I wasn't referring to the rca jacks on the front I was talking about the "Phones" jack on the front.. Maybe I'm just too old.. LOL

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post #217 of 785
^ that's the Turtle Beach base station
post #218 of 785
It took me a minute to figure out what you were trying to show me. Is that the headphone transmitter? Do you hook it up to the tv with rca jacks?
post #219 of 785
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Originally Posted by signedup View Post

It took me a minute to figure out what you were trying to show me. Is that the headphone transmitter? Do you hook it up to the tv with rca jacks?

No it's hooked up how I described above via optical from my plasma. It operates on 2.4ghz rf
post #220 of 785
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Only if you need more HDMI inputs or the internet steaming, Airplay, etc.
VSX-1018 is a pretty complete unit.
7.1
THX Select
7.1 multichannel inputs
7.1 preouts to add external amp
zone 2
video upscaling
The AVR 1700 is 5.1 with none of those other features. I wouldn't make the swap. Get an Apple TV if you want the internet connectivity.


Features aside, would the AVR 1700 give me an upgrade in sound quality versus the Pioneer VSX-1018? Thanks.
post #221 of 785
Listen, this is all I can tell you.. Hook the xbox up to the receiver as you would the tv. Check the tv to see if its getting a picture and sound. If not, then your problem is there, it could be settings. If so, hook your transmitter up to the tv. If it doesn't work then your problem is between the tv and the transmitter. Most likely settings but if it works with the xbox directly hooked to the tv then it should work with the same settings. Maybe you could get it to work hooked up to the receiver instead of the tv.

You can do the work around but I think you will enjoy the receiver alot more if you can use all the features.
post #222 of 785
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Originally Posted by M Code View Post

The 1700 does not have Pre-Outs...
Just my $0.02... wink.gif


AFAIK only the just-announced flagship 3700 comes with pre-outs so I don't see it as a serious issue...?
post #223 of 785
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Originally Posted by signedup View Post

Listen, this is all I can tell you.. Hook the xbox up to the receiver as you would the tv. Check the tv to see if its getting a picture and sound. If not, then your problem is there, it could be settings. If so, hook your transmitter up to the tv. If it doesn't work then your problem is between the tv and the transmitter. Most likely settings but if it works with the xbox directly hooked to the tv then it should work with the same settings. Maybe you could get it to work hooked up to the receiver instead of the tv.
You can do the work around but I think you will enjoy the receiver alot more if you can use all the features.

If I hook up my tv to the receiver via HDMI I do get sound & video. But because the 1700 allows only one digital connection at a time, when I hook up the optical from the tv to the Turtle Beach base optical in and run another optical from that to the receiver I get no sound from the headphones. Is that what you meant?
post #224 of 785
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Originally Posted by T2k View Post

AFAIK only the just-announced flagship 3700 comes with pre-outs so I don't see it as a serious issue...?

The original question was about the 1700 which is selling for $199...
The 3700 once released will be @ least 3x higher..
Certain users want a no frills AVR such as the 1700 capable of handling HDMI 1.4 and HD decoding, but it will be used as pre-amp/processor driving higher powered external power amplifiers..

Also IMHO...
An AVR with an SRP < $1099 is not a flagship... rolleyes.gif

Just my $0.02... wink.gif
post #225 of 785
If you are running out from receiver and into the tv input and you are getting picture and sound then hook up your headphones. Do not run your headphone transmitter into the receiver. Your headphones are not a source, they are a receiver. They receive a signal, not produce one. They should replace your tv speakers. The way you had it hooked up, you were transferring a signal through your headphone transmitter to the receiver. That's why I said don't run it to the receiver. You might be causing a conflict. Just run the tv to the headphone transmitter.
post #226 of 785
Has anyone been able to successfully use the iPad app while being connected via a Powerline adapter?
post #227 of 785
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Originally Posted by RobDMB View Post

Features aside, would the AVR 1700 give me an upgrade in sound quality versus the Pioneer VSX-1018? Thanks.

I haven't heard the vsx-1018 but I wouldn't think so. I personally wouldn't unless I needed more HDMI hook ups.
post #228 of 785
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Has anyone been able to successfully use the iPad app while being connected via a Powerline adapter?

I'm waiting on the Slinglink Turbo I ordered to get here, will post back once I get it all hooked up.
post #229 of 785
okay thanks... I have 2 Powerlines going to 2 DirecTv receivers. I ordered the XE104 for the 1700 and a Pioneer BDP 150 and I can't get either going. They work fine using a 50ft Cat5 plugged directly into the wireless router. But using the XE104 and Cat6 cables, I get nothing. I know the adapter works bc I switched out one of the ones on the DirecTv and it was fine.
post #230 of 785
KOTULCN, apparently I can't response to you. Must be run by a moderator for some reason.

Unhook the headset transmitter from the receiver and see it that works. You might be causing a conflict.
post #231 of 785
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KOTULCN, apparently I can't response to you. Must be run by a moderator for some reason.
Unhook the headset transmitter from the receiver and see it that works. You might be causing a conflict.

I appreciate your help, not sure what you meant right there, but I will try try that suggestion in regards to the receiver!
post #232 of 785
I've got a question. I've read a few times that 2 channel stereo sounds great for music. I've got a couple of polk RT2000p towers and a CSi5 center channel and 2 channel stereo sounds like I'm listening to an old am/fm cabinet from the 60s but in ' Logic 7 music' my music comes alive. Virtual surround mode sounds powerful too but going from 2 channel to Logic 7 is huge. The floor starts to rumble and the windows start to shake. Anyone else have better sound out of 2 channel than Logic 7?
post #233 of 785
No offense, but I joined AVS and been a huge follower of certain discussions.. Can the user KOTULCN please take the advice of the previous responders or go to PM on how to get your Xbox & Turtle Beach Headsets functioning since you're not using the proper hookup. My suggestion is, if you are not sure, contact Turtle Beach and have them tell you what you need to do since you have hooked up your X360 directly to your Plasma. More likely than not it's user error and not the fault of the HK 1700 or it's audio/video passthrough. As the unit offers 2 opticals and 6 HDMI inputs and most likely a proper sound field/source output when used

Thanks guys, love the info being brought here. I bought 2 of them, arrives Monday. I took the slower shipping method which was fine by me. As it gave me enough time to know about the Online Manual, Windows 7 AIr Play Setup Along with the full functionality of the 1700 Reciever along with the HDMI bridge station.. In all honesty this specific model is going to deliver all the goods and for the Best Buy Price of $200 there is no competiton what so ever.

I strongly suggest those that buy, do your research 1st before purchasing.The weight is not a problem as the audio is still top notch, The Full Manual is PDF, The Volume knob can be dimmed if desired. Using a IOS device volume is used only through that device,Not 100% HDMI pass through, as the AV1700 needs to be powered and audio needs to selected via OSD. My next post will be some of the sources I used to gain knowledge.. Hope this helps

Edit: OK post allowed. Again nothing personal hope to see this topic grow with wisdom. smile.gif
Edited by JAYSDAY - 1/6/13 at 1:32am
post #234 of 785
Official HARMON KARDON Store Site - AVR 1700
http://www.harmankardon.com/estore/hk/us/products/AVR-1700/AVR%201700_HK_US?searchMode=regularProductOnly#pdp-overview

HARMON/KADON AVR-1700 Reviews
Professional - http://lazytechguys.com/reviews/harman-kardon-avr-1700-review/

HARMON/KARSN AVR-1700 Previews
- http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/harman-kardon-700-1700

HARMON/KARDON AVR-1700 User Feeback
AVS Forums - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1429194/the-new-harman-kardon-avr1700
Best Buy - http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/6087397/harman-kardon-avr-1700-500w-5-1-ch-a-v-home-theater-receiver-reviews/reviews.htm
Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-1700-Channel-Receiver/product-reviews/B009HB2USI/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Here are the 2 PDF files and Internet Radio
Specs> http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/AVR1700_SS_EN.pdf
Manual> http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/AVR1700_OM_EN-1.pdf
HK Radio> http://radioharmankardon.com/setupapp/harman/asp/AuthLogin/SignIn.asp

load stations from radioharmankardon.com to the receiver.
Operating system Windows 7 Steps:
1. Open network and sharing center
2. Click “Map Network”
3. Click “Click here to see all other devices”
4. Click on “HK AVR1700”
5. Opens internet browser to Harman/kardon 170
6. Click on “Network Configuration” on left
7. Click on “Current Network” on right
8. Write down 12 digit Mac Address


Edit Update:
Still awaiting my introduction post to pass Moderating, N'way if at all possible can we keep this HK-1700 Related and not get side tracked by unrelated equipment. I'm sure everyone here would like the discussion to be focused on the Receiver Postives & Negatives facts
Edited by JAYSDAY - 1/5/13 at 8:00pm
post #235 of 785
For me 2 ch stereo on the 1700 is very detailed. The imaging and depth is exceptional. ... But logic 7 is more fun.
post #236 of 785
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KOTULCN, apparently I can't response to you. Must be run by a moderator for some reason.
Unhook the headset transmitter from the receiver and see it that works. You might be causing a conflict.

Well I kind of figured it out, I now have to wait for a toslink splitter to verify. Thanks for your help!
post #237 of 785
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Originally Posted by sinkdrain View Post

For me 2 ch stereo on the 1700 is very detailed. The imaging and depth is exceptional. ... But logic 7 is more fun.

try the 5.1 stereo setting on logic 7. it fills the room with lots of sound.
i use the logic 7 setting on movies too
post #238 of 785
When I am watching stuff on my Xbox 360 my only surround mode options are:

Auto Select
Virtual Surround
Stereo

How do you select one of the other surround options like the ones you are talking about?
post #239 of 785
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Originally Posted by KOTULCN View Post

When I am watching stuff on my Xbox 360 my only surround mode options are:

Auto Select
Virtual Surround
Stereo

How do you select one of the other surround options like the ones you are talking about?

This is because your xbox is outputting dolby digital 5.1.

Logic 7, dolby prologic 2 etc. are options to mimic dolby digital 5.1 when only analog stereo is available... like a cd or a standard def channel.
Edited by sinkdrain - 1/6/13 at 7:05pm
post #240 of 785
My biggest complaint with this reciever is lack of a "direct sound" option or a quick way on the remote to switch from Logic7/Dolby Pro Logic to Stereo when listeing to music. Really kind of annoying that it auto defaults to Logic 7 Movie for everything, and to change it you need to bring up the OSD and flip through a few things.
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