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post #211 of 581
Just watched the pilot and 2nd episode today, and I like it.

One thing that immediately jumped out at me: When the wife was being interrogated, and they said something to the effect of "Why would a husband lie to his wife?", I wanted her to reply back "Why would a government lie to it's people?"
post #212 of 581
This episode was weak, I hope this isn't a trend.
Communications from the island to the Colorado? Underwater? In the canyon? Secure?

Why depth charges? Why not homing torpedoes?

Only one copy of the "stealth device?" Hell I have multiple copies of my music and photo files because I know a device will fail.

And the execution of Redman seems to be cliche. We didn't see him shot. Now he will turn against his former shipmate because they gave him up.

I really want to like this show. I really do.
post #213 of 581
I think the fact that it took this long for anyone to post about the last episode is a testament to how weak it was. Regarding the hard drive situation, if Kylie was really smart enough to have been involved with designing the stealth system, not only would she have backups, but all the copies would be secured with military-grade encryption. Stealing the HDD wouldn't do anyone any good, unless they had a few decades and some supercomputers lying around with which to crack it.

The whole Tani and James island romance/drama thing needs to go, too. The writers are having a hard enough time keeping the main plot interesting, even without bogging down each episode with boring side stories. I guess this is why the critical reviews said the episodes after the pilot weren't as good. Here's hoping things improve.
post #214 of 581
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Originally Posted by HairyBee View Post

Communications from the island to the Colorado? Underwater? In the canyon? Secure?
Why depth charges? Why not homing torpedoes?

The writers use heavy amounts of "artistic license" when it comes to the technical and military aspects of Last Resort. You have to suspend any knowledge you may have of real military capabilities to be able to watch this. Pretty sure the US Navy replaced WWII style depth charges with torpedoes long ago. Can't in my wildest dreams imagine the Captain of a US Navy Trident Submarine risking the boat and crew by taking navigation instructions from a civillian. Wanted to like it too, guess I'll watch the NFL games on Thursday night instead.
post #215 of 581
I like it enough to time shift and watch later. Expecting realism from TV military dramas from a major network is probably expecting too much. Suspend belief like we do with: James Bond, Batman, Terminator...Then it becomes 46 minutes of entertainment.
post #216 of 581
Agree that this was the weakest episode, none of the subplots were particularly engaging.
post #217 of 581
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Originally Posted by HairyBee View Post

Only one copy of the "stealth device?" Hell I have multiple copies of my music and photo files because I know a device will fail.

The device is integrated into the sub's sub-systems. Impossible tor there to be more than one. Even if you think it is possible, the backup would work the same way as it has the same programming, attached to the same sub-systems.
post #218 of 581
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Originally Posted by wessew10 View Post

IThen it becomes 46 minutes of entertainment.

Where the Hell are you watching TV? Certainly not here in the U.S. We haven't had 46 minute shows in decades. We're lucky to get 43 minute episodes.
post #219 of 581
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Originally Posted by HairyBee View Post

And the execution of Redman seems to be cliche. We didn't see him shot. Now he will turn against his former shipmate because they gave him up.

Going to be a little hard, considering that he was indeed shot. biggrin.gif
post #220 of 581
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Originally Posted by Gandu View Post

Can't in my wildest dreams imagine the Captain of a US Navy Trident Submarine risking the boat and crew by taking navigation instructions from a civillian.

You rely on the resources that you have at hand. She knows the area. To do otherwise would be arrogant and would risk your boat and your crew more so than relying on such a resource.
post #221 of 581
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Can't in my wildest dreams imagine the Captain of a US Navy Trident Submarine risking the boat and crew by taking navigation instructions from a civillian.

Not just any civilian, a French civilian. I'd agree with you if they were heading toward the enemy, but when running from the enemy, who better to offer advice? wink.gif
post #222 of 581
Next episode might be make or break time. What is the point of the Dollhouse lady and the military guy?
post #223 of 581
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

You rely on the resources that you have at hand. She knows the area. To do otherwise would be arrogant and would risk your boat and your crew more so than relying on such a resource.

Agree to disagree on this point. Enjoy the show.
post #224 of 581
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

The device is integrated into the sub's sub-systems. Impossible tor there to be more than one. Even if you think it is possible, the backup would work the same way as it has the same programming, attached to the same sub-systems.
You misunderstood the original comment. HairyBee was referencing the Hard Drive in Autumn Reeser's apartment safe.

Frankly, I'm not going to be surprised to find out that she was storing a fake copy in the safe, and that hard drive was blank. She's got a real copy elsewhere.
post #225 of 581
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Originally Posted by kaydigi View Post

Next episode might be make or break time. What is the point of the Dollhouse lady and the military guy?

Yes, getting there. This show has so much crap convention. Girl tells guy: "I put the really important stuff in the safe. No, its really important. Too important to put in a bank. I hope now that I've told you where it is and what it is, you won't give it to someone else." Even if it is a fake, it still is boooring.

Lady needs to get on a boat and go with Mr. Frenchman. Like there is any drama whether she will leave or not.

Sub is in trouble? I didn't feel any tension or any drama about it. The Pegasus has to die just at the wrong times. Oh boy.

Dollhouse lady is whining about something that doesn't mean anything. Seal is a good guy in bad guy clothing? Never seen that before.

I'll give this show one more week.
post #226 of 581
I didn't know that boomer crews were fully equipped to conduct land warfare. Go figure. rolleyes.gif
post #227 of 581
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

You misunderstood the original comment. HairyBee was referencing the Hard Drive in Autumn Reeser's apartment safe.

If so, then the posting is incorrectly worded, since "stealth device" was used. No HDD in the posting. The stealth device was on the sub. The HDD was in the safe.
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Frankly, I'm not going to be surprised to find out that she was storing a fake copy in the safe, and that hard drive was blank. She's got a real copy elsewhere.

I don't know. I don't think she suspects her dad as being part of the group. Though, we shall see. The point about not having other copies is valid. Plus, how did she get it past security. At top secret locations, incoming and outgoing baggage is searched. You wouldn't even be allowed to bring in or take out a thumbdrive. A lot of things wrong with that storyline. Like the rest of the errors, believe must be suspended. Because, if they were to stick to what is reality regarding all of this, the storyline would be pretty dull.

Also, the stealth device failing is not unexpected, as it is a prototype that was to undergo testing.
post #228 of 581
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Originally Posted by kaydigi View Post

What is the point of the Dollhouse lady and the military guy?

You are just going to have to hang in there and find out.

The show is escapist entertainment. I treat it as such.
post #229 of 581
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

If so, then the posting is incorrectly worded, since "stealth device" was used. No HDD in the posting. The stealth device was on the sub. The HDD was in the safe.
It was worded just fine; the stealth device stored on the HDD is the code/schematics for the device. He followed it up by referencing having copies of his music and photos. The sub has the physical prototype, she has the digital representation.
post #230 of 581
Still a misleading posting. Obviously, since I took it as meaning the actual stealth device. Postings need to be clear. I'm not a mind reader. biggrin.gif
post #231 of 581
And if there's something we don't want on an internet forum, it's a misleading posting. OMG.

I knew what he was talking about when I read it the first time.
post #232 of 581
^^^ You did, I didn't.
post #233 of 581
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

It was worded just fine; the stealth device stored on the HDD is the code/schematics for the device. He followed it up by referencing having copies of his music and photos. The sub has the physical prototype, she has the digital representation.

Agreed here, thats how I took it when I 1st readu it as well. Especially since she mentioned that the HDD copy was the "only" evidence, proof, example of the device outside of the sub...
post #234 of 581
It should only be unclear to someone who didn't watch the episode - or completely missed the scene where she said it was "the only copy" when she put the HDD in the safe.
post #235 of 581
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Going to be a little hard, considering that he was indeed shot. biggrin.gif
I don't know what show you were watching, but there didn't show the event.

In fact, when they didn't and there were two extra shots, I fully expected the team from the sub to come charging in, having shot the guys that escorted him outside.

I don't think we can make that call until there's a body recovered.
post #236 of 581
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

In fact, when they didn't and there were two extra shots, I fully expected the team from the sub to come charging in, having shot the guys that escorted him outside.
I don't think we can make that call until there's a body recovered.

I thought the same thing. I assumed the shots were the Americans popping the bad guys - but then they never came in.
post #237 of 581
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

I thought the same thing. I assumed the shots were the Americans popping the bad guys - but then they never came in.
No, instead the Americans came driving up the road like Morgan Freeman in "Driving Miss Daisy".

If I were late for a deadline like that, there'd be a heck of a dust cloud rising up behing my vehicle getting there.
post #238 of 581
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

It should only be unclear to someone who didn't watch the episode - or completely missed the scene where she said it was "the only copy" when she put the HDD in the safe.

I saw that scene, that is why when the OP wrote "stealth device," I immediately went to the actual device on the sub. The HDD is NOT, I repeat NOT, the "stealth device." I took the OP's description of having extra copies as to having more than one prototype of the "stealth device" on the sub.

If I would have been talking face to face with the OP and he said "stealth device," I immediately would have said "the device on the sub?" At which point the OP would have said, "No, the HDD containing that plans."

Instead everyone jumped on me for getting it "wrong."
post #239 of 581
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

I thought the same thing. I assumed the shots were the Americans popping the bad guys - but then they never came in.

I expected the same thing. But, when that didn't happen, I therefore assumed that Red was actually shot.

And yes, more than likely he will show up alive, as a bargaining tool. Then the crap will hit the fan when he mention that he was given up to be shot.

Until that happens, he is a dead character.
post #240 of 581
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

I took the OP's description of having extra copies as to having more than one prototype of the "stealth device" on the sub.
Yes, because the stealth device is able to fit in a 1 cubic foot safe. rolleyes.gif Why else would they have been talking about the stealth device as she places the HDD in the safe?

Nice back peddling, though.
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