Last Resort on ABC - Page 12

I felt the same way. Stupid love triangle.

Who gave the Captain the EPPI (sp?) shot and took the key? Obviously it was one of the crew on the boat. That seems to have been glanced over. Hopefully that will be a topic of discussion while searching for the key.

Wasn't there a line about always being a CIA sleeper on a "boomer"? Anyway, whoever, the bad guys were, they failed to take tactical advantage of the situation. Both on the sub and the island, they should have disarmed and either imprisoned or killed the crew. On the sub, the sleeper should have driven it out to the task force or called in the task force. Once he had the captain's launch key, and the captain out cold, the sub is not a nuclear threat. Granted, such action would have ended the show, but in this episode, it jumped the shark. If you go to the trouble of drugging the whole crew, there is no sane reason to NOT take tactical advantage of the situation other than the need to come back next week for ratings.

Pretty sure the entire final scene of the episode focused on the fact that there is a sleeper on board the sub.

Not unless the sleeper doesn't know how to drive the sub. Maybe he's a cook.

Every Submarine Qualified crew member can, and has, driven the boat.

Your own link shows that only officers are taught to drive the boat. Enlisted crew members are not.

Right, the WIKI entry does not specifically state enlisted men operate the helm and planes, and does refer to an "officer's ability to drive, and fight, the ship." This description is poorly worded and I can see how it could be interpreted that officers actually operate the helm and planes. Using “drive " in this case refers to an Officer of the Deck's ability to issue the correct commands to the helm, planes, Diving officer and Chief of the Watch to maneuver the submarine. Much the same as it is on a surface ship. I was on a US Navy SSBN for several years and as part of the qualification process, every enlisted crewman absolutely will 'drive' the boat, for several hours, as both helmsman and planesman. Being qualified on helm and planes is required to become Submarine Qualified. In fact, underway it is usually the most junior seamen that stand the majority of the watches on helm and planes.

Submarine: A Guided Tour Inside a Nuclear Warship ( Last paragraqph)

Enlisted man on the helm

If you close your eyes and just listen to the background music, it is "LOST".

Same w/ surface ships (at least it was 45 years ago) although a lot less complex than a sub.

Technically the really complex part is with positioning.

Without a good mapping crew to measure speed, time and distance, you could end up miles off course well before lunch time. If that happens, you'd better hope you have a good sonar guy so you don't run into something that you weren't expecting to be there.

It's one thing to run arground when the captain gives you an incorrect order while you're manning the helm. It's a far different thing if you crash into Pakistan instead of merely parking yourself just off the coast because you added wrong.

Is this a Hunt for Red October reference? What about the nuclear engineer that was PO'ed that he couldn't be on the leave list because there was no other engineer aboard. He might be the one who stole the key.

Bingo. I'm kinda disappointed it took a week for someone to pick up on that...

On an FBM submarine, precision latitude and longitude,is supplied by a subsystem called the Ships Inertial Navigation System - SINS

The boat can also get fixes from Satellite (GPS), Loran C, Sonar, and other sources.

Great, another love triangle. Why is it the SEAL is the only one getting any on this island?

Saw Cortez as the sleeper from a mile away.

Someone needs to put a bullet in Serrat, but obviously he's a main character so he's going to stick around.

After what he did to COB, I can't see how the skipper lets him live.

The thriller aspect of the show is entertaining enough (despite some occasional, but extremely bad cliches) but all the romantic soap seems to have come straight from ABC Command Center to ensure the show falls into the network's "Primetime Lifetime" programming template.

It's the worst part of the show by far and it's either going to be the element that keeps it on the ABC schedule because it fulfills the female demo requirement, or the tipping point which weakens the thriller aspect that other viewers want more of.

Another show that makes me wish 24 was still on the air. The romantic elements of 24 usually ended with a bullet.

He's going to keep it quiet to both avoid telling Chaplin he used to be an addict and to provide the show a plot point for a few weeks as he struggles to overcome his addiction.

I wouldn't be surprised if its used as a red herring too. As Chaplin misinterprets his addiction as hiding his guilt about being the sleeper agent.

This is ridiculous, they need to just kill that guy already. He would of gotten a bullet already if I was in charge. I hate how these islanders can take so many of the Navy people captive whenever they want. Wouldn't they of addressed that issue now with people, armed them, go in pairs, something??? And why didn't the COB fight back, they made him out to be such a hard ass I can't believe he didn't start shooting when he was nabbed. It is getting really old, really fast with all the kidnappings and he gets away with it.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/11/last-resort-666-park-ave-cancelled-abc/

DIAF ABC

I guess there just wasn't enough soap for ABC, even though some of this last episode screamed "Grey's Anatomy: Tropical Island".

I sure wish Braugher would end up on a show that lasts, he's much too good an actor not to be able to see more of.

^^ +1 Maybe he can go to Grey's Anatomy as a doctor.

COBB!!!!! OUCH

Sign me up for a device/service/patent that delays my interest in a new show until a network actually commits to it beyond the first few episodes. Burned again, doggonnit!

The cancellation of Last Resort is probably a good thing. Despite a rather good cast, the show has deteriorated to depths of frothy soapiness not reached by Grey's Anatomy until the third season, at least. This latest episode, with the COB's kidnapping, torture, and the rekindling of his long under control drug addiction, along with the the revelation that Cortez was the mole who stole the captain's nuclear console key, made the whole thing preposterous beyond belief. Tonight's mess was only Episode 7, so the jury is out over whether I will stick with the show to its bitter end.

I'll hold out for the rest of this, but I'm not sorry to see it go at this point.

Two of the three new shows I added to my queue this season, have been canceled. I guess I just know how to pick 'em.

Ugh. Surprised Revolution outlasted this one.

I think the island is the aspect that undermined the show. In the first episode I opined the fact the island was populated, and with blatantly obvious romantic signposts.

I think it would have been a much better series if the island population consisted of just the NATO team and the crew had to build and supply their own village. It would have kept the story with the core cast members instead of the annoying and pointless sidetracks like the trip to see the barmaid's problematic family.

Despite being interesting eye candy her character is just a huge waste of screen time.

Yup, like I mentioned way back in post 34, ABC simply couldn't help themselves.