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post #1921 of 7685
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Originally Posted by kamiraa View Post

I know this is a weird question, but for adding a record player (phono) since we have a dedicated input on the AVR-4520ci should I be looking for something without or with a built in pre amp?
I was looking at this :
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120-USB-Direct-Drive-Professional-Turntable/dp/B002S1CJ2Q/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2BVJII77O6GM2&coliid=I2Z2UQ7B9A2ZSG
Trying to stay under $400 range for a phono to play all my Dad's records he left me when he passed last week.


You can also get a Denon DP-300F, from places like Audioholics, ABT, B&H, Crutchfield, J&R, Vann's, 6thAve, and other places for about $300.

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/DP-300FLit_E3.pdf
post #1922 of 7685
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Thanks for this confirmation. And the main zone is then converted to Multi CH Stereo?

Main still plays in multi channel stereo. In other words the DTS track was not changed at all.
post #1923 of 7685
Im wondering if anyone else has this issue , Im running HDMI from my cable box to the 4520 last night I was watching a show in HD and the picture artifacts . I had this happen before on another pre amp and the work around was to run HDMI from the cable box direct to the TV and use the Pre Amp for sound .
post #1924 of 7685
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Originally Posted by a1usedcomp View Post

Im wondering if anyone else has this issue , Im running HDMI from my cable box to the 4520 last night I was watching a show in HD and the picture artifacts . I had this happen before on another pre amp and the work around was to run HDMI from the cable box direct to the TV and use the Pre Amp for sound .

 

99% sure this is the cable signal.  I have been using DirecTV for years with several different model Denon AVR's and never had the AVR cause artifacts.  Of course, there is nothing wrong with moving the cable to test out whether the problem goes away.  The cable might be at issue as well, so you might try a different cable.  To isolate root cause, make only one change at a time, of course.

post #1925 of 7685
Tried switching cables a few diffrent times times If I go direct to TV I can watch for a week no problems as soon as I got through a AVR it comes back only on HD and its random
post #1926 of 7685
Which is why the direct connect to the TV with optical to the AVR is recommended as the permanent configuration to avoid any further (or future) issues. wink.gif
post #1927 of 7685
optical or coax is one better than the other for this ?
post #1928 of 7685
Nope ... same ole same ole. smile.gif
post #1929 of 7685
I am using my 4520ci as a pre amp due to a lack of power. I have it connected to a Emotiva XPR-5 for a 5 channel amp. I am using the 4520ci to drive my surround backs only. I have run Audyssey set up prior to adding the Emotiva and after. Is it necessary to go back into Audyssey set up to set all the other 5 channels to the preamp setting under the custom tab? Without doing that, Audyssey shows being used on the front display of the 4520ci. I then went into the custom tab and set all 5 channels as preout and left the surround backs as being powered by the 4520. Audyssey is no longer displayed on front display, have no signal going to the subs and the output level is much less than the previous setting (9.1/Zone 2) which is the default setting.

Any insight would be most appreciated.
post #1930 of 7685
Thread Starter 
When you change any amp assign configuration Audyssey will be disabled because it will want to recalibrate what it assumes is a different speaker config. The extra step you took was totally unnecessary; just go back to the normal setting.
post #1931 of 7685
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

When you change any amp assign configuration Audyssey will be disabled because it will want to recalibrate what it assumes is a different speaker config. The extra step you took was totally unnecessary; just go back to the normal setting.
Just to clarify... Do no set the amp assign to preamp? Just leave the factory setting at 9.1?
post #1932 of 7685
Thread Starter 
The preamp setting turns off ALL the internal amps. It should only be used if you are using external amps for all channels. If you are using a mixture just use the normal settings; the reason to use "custom" would be if you want to do some non standard config, but your setup is basically the definition of "standard".
post #1933 of 7685
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The preamp setting turns off ALL the internal amps. It should only be used if you are using external amps for all channels. If you are using a mixture just use the normal settings; the reason to use "custom" would be if you want to do some non standard config, but your setup is basically the definition of "standard".
Thank you.
post #1934 of 7685
So with the 4520, will the energy consumption go down with the pre-amp mode?
post #1935 of 7685
No ... the amps actually remain powered, rather only that the signal to them is shunted.
post #1936 of 7685
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

You can also get a Denon DP-300F, from places like Audioholics, ABT, B&H, Crutchfield, J&R, Vann's, 6thAve, and other places for about $300.
http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/DP-300FLit_E3.pdf

For warranty purposes, it's important to note that both Vann's and 6th Ave are no longer Denon authorized resellers. Both stores went bankrupt and have since been purchased by new owners, with 6th Ave now operating under the name 6th Ave Express although their audio gear appears to be limited. Also, as they apparently owed Denon about $1.2M prior to going into bankruptcy, doubt they'll become Denon authorized again anytime soon.
post #1937 of 7685
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Nope ... same ole same ole. smile.gif

Im getting a better picture also going direct and I have no more problems , the bad is it dont display the volune on the screen
post #1938 of 7685
Also can anyone explian Denon HD Link I purchased the 4520CI along with the Denon DBT-3313
post #1939 of 7685
Just depends on what you want .... current configuration gains the capability of keeping the 4520CI in Standby when someone just wants to use the TV speakers, otherwise, you can also connect a component video cable from the box to the AVR which will return the on screen volume display.
post #1940 of 7685
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Just depends on what you want .... current configuration gains the capability of keeping the 4520CI in Standby when someone just wants to use the TV speakers, otherwise, you can also connect a component video cable from the box to the AVR which will return the on screen volume display.

Im just lost why one has to do the work around and cant just use HDMI without issue , what causes these issues
post #1941 of 7685
Many cable/sat boxes are not HDCP certified and therefore will often have HDMI handshake issues when connected to an AVR (any brand).
post #1942 of 7685
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Originally Posted by a1usedcomp View Post

Also can anyone explian Denon HD Link I purchased the 4520CI along with the Denon DBT-3313

The DenonLink works differently for different sources.

The primary reason is because the jitter on HDMI can be pretty high.

For CD, DVDA and SACD it provides a low jitter connection directly to the AVR. It does sound pretty good compared to the HDMI alone.

For BD, it provides a master clock connection to sync data transmission between the BDP to the AVR over HDMI.

I've found that there's some improvement with HD PCM soundtracks over HDMI but with bitstream TrueHD/DTS HD, the data gets decoded and reclocked, so the gains aren't noticeble to me.
post #1943 of 7685
I tried that turntable with the 4520 and found that I had to use the pre-amp built into the turntable and any analog input (other than PHONO, of course). If I turn the pre-amp on the turntable off and used the PHONO input on the receiver there was an audible hum - perhaps because there is no way to ground this particular turntable?
post #1944 of 7685
I have never seen the light come on for Denon Link thats why I asked , I will have to do some more reading thanks .
post #1945 of 7685
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Woof Woof View Post

For CD, DVDA and SACD it provides a low jitter connection directly to the AVR. It does sound pretty good compared to the HDMI alone.

For BD, it provides a master clock connection to sync data transmission between the BDP to the AVR over HDMI.

Just FYI since I know you have an older Denon -- the newer DenonLink HD does it the second way for ALL audio. HDMI is used for all audio data transfer and then there is an RCA connection for clock sync.
post #1946 of 7685
Yeah saw that in another discussion

So does this mean the 3313 now sends DSD over HDMI?
post #1947 of 7685
I needed to set the BDP digital to DLINK thanks Woof
post #1948 of 7685
Great. Let us know if you hear an improvement with MPCM soundtracks, SACDs and DVDAs
post #1949 of 7685
I will check it out tonight , I know this is a bad subject " cables " but I picked up a Audioquest Coffee HDMI to replace the stock HDMI from Denon
post #1950 of 7685
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

You can also get a Denon DP-300F, from places like Audioholics, ABT, B&H, Crutchfield, J&R, Vann's, 6thAve, and other places for about $300.
http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/DP-300FLit_E3.pdf

Is the Denon a superior unit to the one I posted?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=avsforum00-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAudio-Technica-AT-LP120-USB-Direct-Drive-Professional-Turntable%2Fdp%2FB002S1CJ2Q%2Fref%3Dwl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC%3Fie%3DUTF8%26colid%3D2BVJII77O6GM2%26coliid%3DI2Z2UQ7B9A2ZSG

Just trying to get the best equipment, I hate redoing stuff (which happens way to often haha).

Thanks!
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