The **OFFICIAL** DENON AVR-4520CI thread - Page 106

batpig,

My eyes are giving out on me and/or my age factor . Thank you for pointing out my errors, and I finally got it . I'm just somewhat overwhelmed with the 4520. I have visited your web site which has some excellent info.

Thanks again!

Gerry

I think that picture came from Jalopnik, I agree about the 959. Just a timeless, beautiful car that also happened to be decades ahead of its time. Living where I do, during tourist season especially, I see a very high number of Lamborghini's, Ferrari's, Bentley's, and many P Cars. The craziest stretch of my life was my ex GF's 30th birthday when I saw a Carrera GT at Roy's in Tampa and then saw a true unicorn in a Bugatti Veyron on I-275 on the way back south. Dream of seeing a 959...


Thank you so much for that information. Indeed I was unaware as the Audyssey Thread is quite daunting in terms of information. I wish I had started following it closely in the beginning of said thread. That also sounds like such an Onkyo thing to do. That is to leave it off so as to avoid dealing with customer complaints. While I honestly had a very good run of using Onkyo AVR's, the Preamp Stage in the 4520 has made a massive difference in respect to driving my amplifiers.

1. Yes

3. No

The 4520 will send signal by default. On first power up there is an onscreen setup.

As noted below and on p. 141 in the OM, the factory default setting is ....

Hi.

In relation to my own thread about the AVR-4520 & 5.1 audio to 7.1 output, I have a question regarding the "Speaker Select"-Menu under the "Surround Paratmeter"-section.

My receiver has Amp Assign set to "7.1ch + Zone 2" and Speaker Config for Surround Back is set to "Small" and "2spkrs", however the "Speaker Select"-menu is still not visible...

Does anyone of you know in which (special) cases this menu is visible/accessible?

Thx

I checked the firmware updates which mentioned this issue in the first firmware update. My 4520 is fully updated but still has this issue.

Andy

Watched a couple movies on the 4520. After running Audyssey, everything seems to be sounding nice! My subs seem to sound better and beefier than with my Onkyo for some reason. I think I made a wise decision to go with my first DENON.

Cool! You are making me lean really hard towards the 4520! Btw can this be attributed to the audyssey measurements taken behind the MLP?

I also had false positives with both Pioneer MCACC system and most recently with Yamaha's YPAO

in the case of the Pioneer it just finally "stopped"..in the case of the Yamaha I called their support line and the said..."yes...that just happens sometimes....."






Warren

No. these were taken in each seat, middle of seats and a tad in front of seats basically creating a somewhat audio bubble.

Hi
I have 7.2 set up
If I set the 4520 to stereo I don't get the sub"s working
How do I change this?
My old denon let me set stereo with or with subs on

 

If your left and right speakers are set to small (which they should be), then your subs should be getting re-directed bass.  If your left and right speakers are set to large (which they shouldn't be), then you need to go onto the speakers menu, bass sub-menu, and set bass to be LFE+Main (which is called double-bass).

A page back I asked about the volume on an IOS device not controlling the volume to the speakers in Zone 2. I found that it only controls the Main Zone volume.
OK, does ANYBODY know how to use Airplay to play to Zone 2 only, without hijacking the Main Zone and interrupting people watching movies in the main zone? If I turn off the Main Zone after an Airplay session starts playing then it stops playback to the 2nd zone as well, even though that zone is left on.

I thought this receiver could play independently to Zone 2 via Airplay, at least that's what the specs say:
"- AirPlay can be played to Zone 2/3 independently from Main Zone (although there is still an initial "hijack" when you start Airplay"

And I see it says initially there is a Hijack, but what do you have to do to fix this, change the input in the main zone back to Blu-Ray or whatever after the initial Hijack?


Thanks,
Jerry
Edited by Jerry Incollingo - 3/2/13 at 8:44am

I just wanted to thank Mike @AVS for all the help in getting me a replacement 4520 from Denon! The new one is working out so far and everything is back to normal.

Time to watch more movies!

what was wrong with the first one?

congrats!

There was a loud hum that was audible from a couple of feet away. Someone else on this thread said it might be the transformer wires touching the heat shield and someone else said it could be a bad transformer. I made a short video of it and emailed it to Mike@AVS and he sent it to a Denon rep. After a while, I got a shipping notice stating that a replacement was being sent. I got the new one yesterday, plugged it in and voila!, the only sound was the normal buzz of electronics! I have to get within an inch or so before I can hear it. So after hooking everything up, running Audyssey again, I put on Skyfall and enjoyed a good movie one more time.

There sure seems to be a large number of defectives out of the box on these made in Japan units?? I think this really indicates poor manufacture or cheap unreliable parts .......I am considering one of these but it is worrysome. I have an AVR-3808CI (my secondary sytem) that I bought in May 2008 and it is like a rock.......then In my main system it is the Onkyo TX-NR3009 (I think it may have bad capacitors or something as it makes click sounds occationally.......not surround mode swithching related).....Maybe looking to replace the 3009........

I know there is a small hum from mine also. Do you still have the video. I would love to see it. Pm me.

Has there really been more than the usual percentage defective units reported here?
It's usually safe to assume that the threads attract a disproportionate # of problems compared to the many units shipped, so we should be seeing quite a few reports of returns if the build quality has dropped. Here's an ex.- check out the old AVR4310 thread. It became obvious that the 4310 NIC boards failing at a high rate (usually only after several months of use) because it was reported by an exceptional percentage of posters.

while I can understand your point...and it seems to be one that a lot of people make in threads when they see complaints....... generally about a unit they personally really like

not that that is you.....just saying....

My point is

This is not a "walmart volune" unit that has been out for 3 years. I would speculate that Denon has not sold near the volume of some of their lower end models

That being said..it doesn't take much to skew the reliability ratio

if this were say a mid line LG Tv we were talking...pages of complaints might be insignificant.....considering Walmart probably sells a few thousand a month


with the 4520....reliability issues in the forum threads need to be taken seriously


Warren

Hum... I never heard this one before.

The hum is caused by resonance frequency that can manifest itself at any time overtime. The heat shield simply amplifies it.
Denon washed their hands claiming the vender is not an authorized dealer. The dealer insisted he was one and finally agreed to take it back. I decided not waste more money on shipping back and forth because I lost faith in the product design.
I fixed it myself by unscrewing the transformer so I can insulate the L shape heat shield base that sits between the transformer and the chassis using dampening materiel. I also curved the plate and tied the wires away.
The audible noise is still there and can be heard only in a quiet environment if your ear touches the unit but that’s not a problem for the average Joe. What bothers me though is the fact that the 60Hz physical hum translates into a 60Hz hiss noise amplified to the speakers.
What’s interesting, the hiss can be eliminated by 80% if you turn Audyssey off.
Then again, the average Joe wants the watch a movie now…

Now having admitted what I did, I believe I voided my “warrantee” for the best interest of the audience;
On the other hand who knows, I might receive a PM from Denon offering me a new receiver for helping them with the problem before it goes viral…

Hello,

I starting setting up my 4520 which was purchased from AVS last week and I am having video problems. I get the image flashing up (1 second) and then 10-15 seconds of black on all inputs. The audio continues to come through just fine during the blackout. I have hooked up 2 DVRs (Comcast Motorola 3416s) and 1 HTPC. All three were hooked up via HDMI. I also tried hooking up the DVRs via component and get the same issue. I have tried swapping the HDMI 1.3a cables for new 1.4 cables with no luck as well.

The 4520 is outputting to a Panny AX100 projector (720p) and this same setup was working earlier in the day with my old Onkyo TX-NR905. In addition, all sources are working through my Denon 2310CI which is outputting to a Panasonic plasma.

I have updated the firmware, tried changing HDMI source input settings, changed output from auto to 720p without sucess.

Any ideas what else I can do to identify the problem?

Thanks,
T.Wells

Although cable length issues > 20' generally only apply to 1080p video, you may still need to add an HDMI repeater. Try connecting to the same plasma the 2310CI is connected to to determine if the issue is unit related.

I am a repeat Denon owner and was personally was affected by the 4310 NIC common failure issue. Despite that, Denon seems to me a reliable brand and in my case the problem was easily and quickly fixed by my local Denon authorized repair shop under warranty.

With an eye to SQ upgrades, I've been interested in this model and followed the thread from the beginning-3K+ posts over 5 months since it's been out. So far I've decided to wait for something that will make upgrading from my AVRA100 and DBPA100 (my dynamic- duo combo!) more worth the trouble and expense, based on my needs and preferences. But NOT because of a concern about reliability.

Offhand I can only recall a handful of returned units and no specific pattern, so that just indicates a pretty normal reliability to me, as by now thousands are in use worldwide. For perspective, I've also followed the Denon AVPA1 pre/pro thread. That is a very expensive, very well-built flagship model with proportionately few sold. There have been occasional owner posts of units that needed repair.

As I've not been closely following every single issue discussed on this thread I said, "Has there really been more than the usual percentage defective units reported here?", in response to the OP's concern. I agree that we should always take reliability seriously when spending our hard-earned HT $.

Thanks. The issue for me in connecting to the plasma that is run by the 2310 is that all equipment is located in the basement equipment rack so the cable run is still 25'. I can give that a try though. I did shorten the cable run as the equipment closet is located outside the theater room. I ran a new 15' HDMI 1.4 cord to the projector with the same results. I also tried a 50' monoprice HDMI cord with Redmere. I also connected a DVR straight to the projector to assure the new cord was working and it was fine.

I have done the hard reset (back, info, power) several times and that didn't help.

I also tried to use the component connection from the 4520 to the projector and all I had was a black screen. I am starting to think I got a bad 4520 or that it won't communicate with the Panny AX100.

I guess my last attempt should be to unrack the 4520 and a source and take them upstairs to one of the plasmas.

Anything else I should try before calling it a day?

Thanks,
T.Wells

You've pretty much covered all the usual troubleshooting suggestions as well as used a cable < 20', so rather than connecting the 4520CI to the plasma, I'd connect the 2310CI to the PJ to determine if the issue is a conflict with the PJ, otherwise, just go for replacement. Note however, that in order for a component video ouput to work it must have a component video input as there is no HDMI ---> component down conversion. Also note there are two outputs ... main zone (Monitor) and Zone 2.