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post #6421 of 7707
Thanks batpig, I have a WD LiveWire that I use in my main TV room and it has worked flawlessly for a couple of years but I remember reading that I can only use one of those units or they will interfere with each other. I'm pretty much computer illiterate but I'll look into WiFi bridges and see if it's something that I can figure out.
This http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-WNCE2001/dp/B003KPBRRW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387227901&sr=8-1&keywords=wifi+gaming+adapter is under gaming adapters at Amazon but it looks just like any other adapter?
Thank you.
post #6422 of 7707
Thread Starter 
AFAIK the only difference between a "gaming adapter" and any other router in bridge mode is the branding. And probably that they come preconfigured for bridge mode so it's easier for the network illiterate to get up and running. I don't think there's any real functional difference between a gaming adapter and any other wifi bridge.
post #6423 of 7707
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Originally Posted by DougReim View Post

Hi,
I have a general Denon question and I'm hoping one of the experts here might have an answer. I have a second 2 channel system which currently has a Pioneer 1021k avr and I'd like to replace that avr with a Denon unit but I need it to connect wirelessly to my router. I called Denon and asked if any of the WiFi adapters would work with the X2000 and the Denon guy said it was a 50/50 chance. He said their units are not made to connect wirelessly but he knows of users who have done that and it worked but he also knew of users who could never get their Denon receivers to connect no matter which adapter they used.
So my question is: does any one here use their Denon avr wirelessly (?) and if so are there any tips as to which adapter or receiver I should be looking at?
I can hook this unit up with a super long ethernet cable to update but that's not practical for everyday listening to Spotify & Pandora.
Thanx

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_G2

Routers successfully used by other Denon AVR owners ....

Primary Router
Cisco WRT-100
Cisco E3200
Linksys BEFSX41
Netgear N600 3400v2
Netgear WNDR-3800
Netgear WNDR4500
Airport Extreme

Bridge Router (connected to AVR provides wireless connection to the home's wifi router)
Cisco WRT-54G
TRENDnet TEW-640MB
Airport Extreme
Airport Express
Linksys WET610N
Netgear WN2000RPT - 4 port
Netgear WN2500RP
D-Link DAP-1522

Other
Netgear XAVB5004 Powerline Network Adapter (4-port) (on AVR set Network Standby/IP Control to ON/Always ON)
D-Link Powerline Adapter
Belkin Video Link 3 (w/static IP)
D-Link 8-Port Gigabit Switch (DGS-1008G)
post #6424 of 7707
Input source question to those in the know. I have my cable box HDMI cable routed to CBL/SAT HDMI input on the back. The 4520 is connected to my TV via Monitor 1 and is utilizing both HDMI control (for power) and ARC.

For some reason, when I turn on the 4520 (via the TV remote and HDMI power control function), the input source defaults to TV Audio. In this case, I have to manually select CBL/SAT as the input source everytime I power on the 4520, even if it was the last input source selected prior to shutdown.

Any ideas on how to set CBL/SAT as the default input source upon power-on? The manual states the unit should remember the last input source, but that doesn't appear to be happening in this case.

BTW...I don't mind pushing 1 button to make it happen, but my wife gets aggravated by having to do this everytime....
post #6425 of 7707
Thread Starter 
There is no default power on source option. The automatic switching is caused by your tv taking control of the receiver -- it assumes because you are using ARC that you want the receiver set to the TV Audio input. Just an annoying side effect of HDMI CEC.
post #6426 of 7707
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Originally Posted by volgagerman View Post

Input source question to those in the know. I have my cable box HDMI cable routed to CBL/SAT HDMI input on the back. The 4520 is connected to my TV via Monitor 1 and is utilizing both HDMI control (for power) and ARC.

For some reason, when I turn on the 4520 (via the TV remote and HDMI power control function), the input source defaults to TV Audio. In this case, I have to manually select CBL/SAT as the input source everytime I power on the 4520, even if it was the last input source selected prior to shutdown.

Any ideas on how to set CBL/SAT as the default input source upon power-on? The manual states the unit should remember the last input source, but that doesn't appear to be happening in this case.

BTW...I don't mind pushing 1 button to make it happen, but my wife gets aggravated by having to do this everytime....

HDMI ARC - the good, the bad, and the ugly. smile.gif

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_E4
post #6427 of 7707
Got it...thanks for the reply. Looks like I need to dig up another optical cable to fish through the wall from my TV to my receiver. Fun! smile.gif
post #6428 of 7707
Is there a list of blu ray discs of movies that either have or will be coming out with neo:x. 11.1 audio?

Thanks.

I only know of 4 movies...
post #6429 of 7707
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Originally Posted by harrybnbad View Post

Is there a list of blu ray discs of movies that either have or will be coming out with neo:x. 11.1 audio?

Thanks.

I only know of 4 movies...

Thanks. Yes, this would be nice. I've looked before without much success. I've only found two movies in 11.1 (Expend 2 and Dredd). Looking forward to the replies.

-T.Wells
post #6430 of 7707
The Dialnorm settings I have been getting with DirecTV have become troublesome. On the 4520, you can check the Dialnorm value (called "Offset") by accessing the General/Information/Audio menu screen. The Offset is present for any Dolby Digital source, but not for PCM sources (e.g. PLII Music).

Here is what I am experiencing. I can be listening to a DTV music channel (PCM), and launch a recording of the evening news, which on my OTA channel has a Dialnorm Offset of -7. I set the master volume to -15 during the new broadcast. When the program is finished, I exit back to the music channel which has no Dialnorm offset, and it is immediately 7dB louder, forcing me to adjust the MV.

I suspect there is no way to correct this behavior, but the unevenness of the playback volume is disconcerting. Anyone else bothered by this?
post #6431 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

The Dialnorm settings I have been getting with DirecTV have become troublesome. On the 4520, you can check the Dialnorm value (called "Offset") by accessing the General/Information/Audio menu screen. The Offset is present for any Dolby Digital source, but not for PCM sources (e.g. PLII Music).

Here is what I am experiencing. I can be listening to a DTV music channel (PCM), and launch a recording of the evening news, which on my OTA channel has a Dialnorm Offset of -7. I set the master volume to -15 during the new broadcast. When the program is finished, I exit back to the music channel which has no Dialnorm offset, and it is immediately 7dB louder, forcing me to adjust the MV.

I suspect there is no way to correct this behavior, but the unevenness of the playback volume is disconcerting. Anyone else bothered by this?

 

I haven't ever experienced anything like this as I don't use my HT for TV etc, but isn't Dolby Volume or something supposed to cater for these things?  Of course, even if does, it's probably as much of a PITA to have to keep turning DV on and off (you wouldn't normally want it on I am assuming) as it is to just adjust the MV.  I do know there is no user control over Dialnorm so I believe your suspicion is right - there is no way to correct the current behaviour.

post #6432 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybnbad View Post

Is there a list of blu ray discs of movies that either have or will be coming out with neo:x. 11.1 audio?

Thanks.

I only know of 4 movies...

 

This site has statistics and details in incredible depth of just about every Bluray disc ever released.... except, well, guess.... ;)

 

http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php

post #6433 of 7707
this thread ALSO lists 11 channel discs:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=159814 wink.gif
post #6434 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

this thread ALSO lists 11 channel discs:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=159814 wink.gif

It only lists 3 such titles:
Dredd 3D - DTS-HD MA 7.1 & DTS Neo:X 11.1
Expendables 2, The - DTS-HD MA 7.1 & DTS Neo:X 11.1
Step Up 4: Revolution 3D - DTS-HD MA 7.1 & DTS Neo:X 11.1

I was under the impression that there were four. What's the other one?
post #6435 of 7707
Don't know; but, if someone lets him know, he will update the list fast.
post #6436 of 7707
Hi Everyone,

My 4520ci used to display all controls UI (volume, setup, etc.) on my TV (Panasonic PC-65VT60) but for some reason, the Denon no longer does this. Instead, it displays everything on it's own display. There must be an easy fix for this?

Thanks.
post #6437 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexusdoan View Post

Hi Everyone,

My 4520ci used to display all controls UI (volume, setup, etc.) on my TV (Panasonic PC-65VT60) but for some reason, the Denon no longer does this. Instead, it displays everything on it's own display. There must be an easy fix for this?

Thanks.

Yes. In the menu, go to Video/Output settings and make sure Video Conversion is set to On.
post #6438 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexusdoan View Post

Hi Everyone,

My 4520ci used to display all controls UI (volume, setup, etc.) on my TV (Panasonic PC-65VT60) but for some reason, the Denon no longer does this. Instead, it displays everything on it's own display. There must be an easy fix for this?

Thanks.
Mine did the same thing. I powered it off. Turned it back on and the on screen display worked again.... Weird!
post #6439 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

The Dialnorm settings I have been getting with DirecTV have become troublesome. On the 4520, you can check the Dialnorm value (called "Offset") by accessing the General/Information/Audio menu screen. The Offset is present for any Dolby Digital source, but not for PCM sources (e.g. PLII Music).

Here is what I am experiencing. I can be listening to a DTV music channel (PCM), and launch a recording of the evening news, which on my OTA channel has a Dialnorm Offset of -7. I set the master volume to -15 during the new broadcast. When the program is finished, I exit back to the music channel which has no Dialnorm offset, and it is immediately 7dB louder, forcing me to adjust the MV.

I suspect there is no way to correct this behavior, but the unevenness of the playback volume is disconcerting. Anyone else bothered by this?

Don't forget that you've got some Quick Selects that can be used to resolve this issue as well. smile.gif
post #6440 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexusdoan View Post

Hi Everyone,

My 4520ci used to display all controls UI (volume, setup, etc.) on my TV (Panasonic PC-65VT60) but for some reason, the Denon no longer does this. Instead, it displays everything on it's own display. There must be an easy fix for this?

Thanks.

Give a soft reset a try .... unplug the 4520CI for 10 minutes. It's got 3 processors in it and sometimes they just need to be rebooted. smile.gif
post #6441 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


Don't forget that you've got some Quick Selects that can be used to resolve this issue as well. smile.gif

 

Since the volume change occurs by simply exiting a program recorded in DD 5.1 to a music channel in PCM, there is no 4520 input change (e.g. it stays on DirecTV DVR), so Quick Select doesn't come into play.

post #6442 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Yes. In the menu, go to Video/Output settings and make sure Video Conversion is set to On.

Tried that. Didn't work.
post #6443 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Give a soft reset a try .... unplug the 4520CI for 10 minutes. It's got 3 processors in it and sometimes they just need to be rebooted. smile.gif

Yeap, that did it. :-)
post #6444 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Since the volume change occurs by simply exiting a program recorded in DD 5.1 to a music channel in PCM, there is no 4520 input change (e.g. it stays on DirecTV DVR), so Quick Select doesn't come into play.

It does if you want to resolve the issue with a single button press rather than having to adjust the MV as you indicated. Set up a couple of Quick Selects using the same DTV source and different volume settings. wink.gif
post #6445 of 7707
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexusdoan View Post

Yeap, that did it. :-)

Yep ... generally does. smile.gif
post #6446 of 7707
Is there any way to control Pandora/Spotify/Internet music apps just through the front panel display? I'll be using this unit solely as a 2 channel sound unit for my home audio until our new house is finished building and I'm wondering if there's really any point to running an ethernet cable under my house if I can only use the front panel display to control everything. I don't have an HDMI display that I could easily connect to this so I can't use any of the GUI menu features.
post #6447 of 7707
^^
Yup. Not as easy as a GUI window, but doable from the front panel display none the less.
post #6448 of 7707
Thread Starter 
If the receiver is networked it can also be easily controlled via a smartphone or tablet using the control app.
post #6449 of 7707
So after changing all cables hdmi , cat 6 ,cheacked all speaker terminals Even changing the power cable to 4520
Added each unit one at a time over the last few weeks roku 3 , blu ray , etc
The amp is on surge protection and all other units on a second one
Replaced the surround speaker that got damaged when I had this problem before after sending it back last time
The amp began to crack on all speakers again!
And now the right channel speaker hums , even when sound level is zero !
Have swaped around left and right to prove it is the amp

Have spoken to Denon went over all changes and I hope to get a return shipping from denon
I hope they just replace my unit now
I have unplugged it as I don't want it to damage any speakers
Especially my front Totems !
My Christmas upgrade to hight speakers is now on hold and sitting under the tree
Will keep you all informed on how Denon acts
You are as good as the customer service when things go wrong
The denon guy I spoke to says they will sort it out this time
We will see
post #6450 of 7707
Wow! That sucks. I feel for you having to go through all of this crap.
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