Audiophilia Newbie Looking to Expand System - Page 5

Enuff talking about 'maybe this, maybe that, whatever I need to defend a position I have not personally tested'.....howzabout YOU test these things, then YOU will be able to tell us how YOU went with these differences instead of this inane incessant speculation about how someone else may have gone or not gone on any given day depending on the solar cycle when conflated with the quantum spin that varies according to the mayan calendar (yet taking into account the gregorian calendar when transpose to the assyrian) and the latest results of the hubble deep space shots.

Let us know how your ears went and whether you were guessing or not.

Is someone forcing you to stay here? There are many other forums out there for you to choose from.

That would be of 'infinite' value to you. I hope for the sake of satisfying your own curiosity that you do it.

It would however, require finding out how to do the test properly..I hope at least theoretically you'd agree there is no point in doing it otherwise..but for some strange reason I feel we'd be still hitting up against your entrenched ideas on what controls are required and you'd still be fighting us all the way with 'well, how do you know accurate level matching is required?' et al. You see, everything isa 'built upon everything else' and I don't have the confidence you would be able to start from first principles and re-do all the research of the decades. Yet you'd probably fight all that pre-existing knowledge anyway.

Ok, I get your feeling of persecution and belittlement. You DON'T get that on thease un named 'other forums' because they too believe in the supreme reliability of their own perceptions and like you also deny any and all research that contradicts their unexamined conclusions. If you want to stop and ponder for even a millisecond, you'd see that it has nothing to do with relative politeness of these opposing forums...we would, and do, get the same reaction from them when we try and explain the science of these things. So it has nothing to do with the differing levels of politeness (they are a happier and more accepting bunch than we are). To think that would I am afraid be an indicator of either naivety or poor reasoning skills.
Would there be some here who would NEVER accept findings contrary to their beliefs? You can bet your life on it. However, as far fetched as it may seem, there are a goodly proportion who would be fascinated by a successful result on your part, for reasons you may have already gleaned (it would be a first for one, that alone would be fascinating no?).

Would we examine your test procedure? Without a doubt and rightly so. I mean we would not just simply accept a new value for the acceleration due to gravity from a first grade science class without verifying their test protocols would we. Same deal here.

So please, do the tests, report back and you will have the makings of a very interesting and active (I can assure you of that!) thread.

Perhaps you misunderstand how double blind tests work. In a double blind test, somebody will actually know if the horse drank (or if device in trial A is the same as or different from the device in trial B). The question is not whether the subject got the right answer because he was right. It's whether he got the right answer. Then you take all the data for all the tests and crunch it statistically to see if the person was more correct than random guessing would suggest, within whatever degree of certainty you chose for your test. If you want me to predict my horse drinking with my back to the water, I'll gladly do so. I'll even trust you to tell me whether the particular horse actually took a drink. But if I'm only 50% I'd still expect a rational person to believe I cannot read horses' minds.

Similarly in a drug testing situation, some people who take the placebo have reduced pain, or other improvements being targeted. Now if significantly more folks taking the nonplacebo achieve good results, you can begin to determine that the nonplacebo is effective. But you also know that some of the nonplacebo foks likely would have reported an improvement even with the placebo. What this test does not do is determine which individuals had a better result than they would have with the placebo. To "prove" that patient A does not respond to the placebo would require an entirely different set of tests . . . and has a fair chance of coming up with null results.

BTW, the notion that something is utterly unprovable therefore it must be true enters the realm of faith, not science, and I'm pretty sure that CS Lewis would argue that greater itellectual rigor is appropriate in matters of faith, too.

Believe it or not, there are vast areas of human knowledge, even audio knowledge where individual opinions and personal logic don't matter at all to anybody with an ounce of sense. A big part of this area is called Science.

Much of audio technology is well-understood scientifically speaking, and covered by reliable information, theories, calculations, experiments, and etc.

Your OP and following commentary appears to be free of evidence of knowledge of any reliable information, theories, calculations, experiments, and etc that relate to its topic.

You seem to be confusing correction with criticism. There is a difference!

One way to avoid being corrected over and over again is to actually know a little something about what you are talking about. ;-)

Science sheds far more light on this topic. Many of the things relating to your OP are well enough understood that it can be reliably and credibly stated that nobody can reliably tell the difference, and if they think they have they have they are simply in error.

For example, lets say that you think you have run a mile in 10 seconds. Is there any possibility that you have actually done so? Imagine going into a neighborhood drinking establishment and claiming that you can, at will, run a mile in 10 seconds. What would the other people there make of such a claim?

Many of the claims in your OP are comparable to you claiming to have run a mile in 10 seconds.

Really!

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i guess whatever other forum(s) you've been trolling for the last couple weeks have gotten bored with you, so you came back...

350 clams for a 1 meter hdmi cable... for that price, kate beckinsale better come deliver it personally and install it... and provide other, ummm, "services" as well...

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lol... re-read your last sentence again... talk about contradictions....

go on "believing" what you like...

So I am just curious about this non-USA stuff. Do you use a computer? I assume you do. How do you find one built in USA? Do you have iPhone? Nikes?