Offical JVC DLA-RS4810 Owners Thread - Page 5

I agree. I think the big news with this years JVCs is the change to a DC lamp which will be used in all of this years models.

Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules

Thanks so much Mike. We can finally put the confusion to rest.



Hey Jason please can you give your opinion on a specific comparison then if you recall your RS50 well enough and your RS55? I forgot with that 50 if it had decent picture sharpness ultimately besides whatever convergence it had. I know your current RS55 is a sweetheart in both respects.

Since the wire grids were same for both and for the coming RS4810, what are your thoughts on the PQ of your 55 with eShift off and no MPC..... in straight 1080P vs what your 50 was at its calibrated best? Blacks and ansi "impressions" too please if you can recall? I assume a "good" 55 in 1080P is every bit as good as a "good" 50.

I have an excellent 50 so gives me great points of comparison.


Thanks

Beers

Ron

The ghosting would have to be MUCH better as you say (I would bet the farm minor improvement at best....if that), plus we still have flicker and there is no reason to think that will be any better. Still have bad lag. I am trying, but I just am not excited for this years offerings which is why my 45 will most likely stick around for another year.

I should have asked when I pre-ordered- glasses/ emitter included or add on accessories on the 4810?

The glasses and emitter are add on accessories. Only if you pre-order the RS65 / X95 will they be included in the box.

Thank you

From what I have been told, The black to white Tolerance is being lowered when watching a 3d movie so it can flash faster from black to white, reducing the ghosting. This is the only way they can achieve it since they are not movie to new dila chips

I read that as well. It will be interesting to see how much this helps (or not) with challenging material.

Both seem to have strong customer service points. I called Sony at 10am on a Tuesday to let them know of my issue and when I arrived home Wednesday late morning there already was a 1000ES brand new A stock replacement sitting next to my front door!

Not included.

thanks for posting. it looks like they left in the MPC 'Analysis' mode in the final release. This could be helpful for tuning the new MPC settings.

This will be really nice for fine tuning the new(er) setting.

As well in reviewing SOWK's post (thanks), I see they've added a new "environment" setting, but wonder what they're doing on the inside to accomplish this?

Would the difference in resolution between the 4810 with eshift2 and the 46 be noticeable on a 100" Studiotek 130 screen? My room is a dedicated theater and seating is 10'.
Joe

That's the tough choice that separates spending 2k or 10k.

I have a 100in and a 120in screen, with the RS55 last year, I didn't see the eshift benefit on the 100in screen. Hopefully this year is better. I will be comparing the difference again

2K or 10K?

About 11-12ft from the screen. The image was excellent, just didn't have the same effect of my 120in screen.

I don't think I made it clear that I meant the difference between the RS46 at $3499 MRSP and the RS4810 at $5095 not the top of the line JVC. According to this post
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1428036/jvc-new-projectors-announced-cedia-2012#post_22377021
the main difference btewen the two is the eshift2 and pixel shiftt. They both have the same contrast ratio at 65000:1
Joe

Err, they both have a specified on/off CR of 50,000:1.

The RS4810 has eshift2 and a CMS that are not included in the RS46. The RS4810 also has Picture Tone and lightness/darkness controls that are not present in the RS46. And, as you say, the RS4810 has 1/16 pixel convergence adjustment resolution but the RS46 is limited to 1 pixel increments.

Eshift1 benefits are most effective at 1 Screen width (or less) seating distance but some have observed benefits at greater distances (I can see the difference at 1.6 SW distance at least on static images). We'll have to wait for the new projectors to show up before any declarations can be made regarding the seating distance at which eshift2 no longer becomes noticeable.

I went with the 4810 because of the eshift 2 and the 1/16th pixel convergence feature

Precisely, thanks SOWK.

The HT world is all about a diminishing return on investment. I guess you could say that about anything really.

Is the toroidal transformer in receiver A worth the 1,000 entry over not having one in receiver B? How much perceptible difference are you going to notice? Projectors are the same thing. Is an 80,000 CR ratio going to be worth x amount of dollars over a 50,000 CR. Is E shift worth x amount over not having it? We don't necessarily have to be talking about 5k or 8k difference here. There will be compromises in 500 dollar differences.

Are you someone who picks apart the flaws in the picture; or are you someone who is content with it as long as the "flaws" don't take you out of the movie. Everyone here has different expectations on what is acceptable to them. Me personally, I don't have to have the blackest blacks out there, but I can't stand jittery panning scenes. I don't really care for 3d so I'm OK with a machine that falls behind in this category, as long as it maintains a strong 2d image. Someone else might really value 3d, or need the blackest of the blacks (eh hem Zombie).

AS SOWK mentioned, the beautiful thing nowadays is most projectors are getting so good you really can't go wrong with any of them. Black levels are closing in on hair splitting differences. In a lot of cases, you'd have to AB them side by side to pick up the differences. Most are throwing pretty close to the same lumens in calibrated mode as well. You just need to pick the one with the idiosyncrasies you can live with.

You guys buying your first projectors are really lucky. My first projector was a Panasonic AE700, and I know guys who had projectors long before that one. PQ has some light years since then. In fact; if you want to save a bunch of money go pick up an old 720p LCD and try it out for a month. Even the cheapest current projector on the market will look a million times better. You can send the money you saved to me so I can get an RS56 instead of my 4810. I heard it will be a huge difference.

bass addict,
I understand. I have a Sanyo Z5 and know that no matter which projector I get I'm going to be happy. I'm redoing my theater and and so I'm trying to justify the extra $1500 for the RS4810.