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post #1261 of 1794
Has anyone tried the Redmere HDMI cables with their JVC projector?
post #1262 of 1794
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

Has anyone tried the Redmere HDMI cables with their JVC projector?

I just tried theit 50 ft and it works like a charm. No issues
post #1263 of 1794
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Originally Posted by Bardia View Post

I just tried theit 50 ft and it works like a charm. No issues


Did you use the Slim or Ultra Slim Redmere 50 FT? confused.gif


...Glenn smile.gif
post #1264 of 1794
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Originally Posted by Glenn Baumann View Post

Did you use the Slim or Ultra Slim Redmere 50 FT? confused.gif


...Glenn smile.gif

I used the slim and ran it 50ft with no issues in the ceiling to a 4810.
post #1265 of 1794
I only need about a 15' cable and I like the slim versions of HDMI cables that are coming out now. Mostly to cut down on clutter behind components but also in this case, my projector mounting plate fits really tight against the cables running fed under it from the ceiling mount. Of course, so does the power cable for that matter and I don't really want to go with a smaller power cable than recommended.
post #1266 of 1794
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Originally Posted by Glenn Baumann View Post

Did you use the Slim or Ultra Slim Redmere 50 FT? confused.gif

I used the SLIM
post #1267 of 1794
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

Has anyone tried the Redmere HDMI cables with their JVC projector?

Yes. I have a 40' slim Redmere that worked very well with a JVC RS-45. It worked very well. Unfortunately we moved, and when the cable was installed in our new theater the installer put the cable in backwards, then closed up the ceiling so it can't be fished out! (Fortunately, we ran a redundant Tributaries HDMI in case the Redmere went south, and he didn't charge us for it).

....just waiting for the 4810 to be delivered (on Thursday).
post #1268 of 1794
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Originally Posted by johng View Post

Yes. I have a 40' slim Redmere that worked very well with a JVC RS-45. It worked very well. Unfortunately we moved, and when the cable was installed in our new theater the installer put the cable in backwards, then closed up the ceiling so it can't be fished out! (Fortunately, we ran a redundant Tributaries HDMI in case the Redmere went south, and he didn't charge us for it).

I've ordered a 50' Ultra-Slim Redmere (9432) as well as a 50' silver-plated standard cable (2678) from Monoprice. I chose the latter based on this test of long HDMI cables. (They did not test any Redmere cables.) If the standard cable works, I will stick with it, since there's no active electronics and therefore (presumably) higher long-term reliability.

What's most surprising to me is how different HDMI1 vs HDMI2 inputs behaved on the 4810.

Results to come in a few days.
post #1269 of 1794
50' is a long cable. I'd at least try hooking your set up with a shorter cable .
post #1270 of 1794
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post

50' is a long cable. I'd at least try hooking your set up with a shorter cable .

Redmere are said to be capable of doing 60' without repeater.
post #1271 of 1794
I have been using 50 foot standard HDMI ( (HDMI 1.3) cable from Monoprice, since 2008 for 2D.
I upgraded my projector to 3D last year and the same cable works perfectly with 3D content (HDMI 1.4 projector and receiver)

Absolutely no issues.
post #1272 of 1794
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Originally Posted by Dionyz View Post

I have been using 50 foot standard HDMI ( (HDMI 1.3) cable from Monoprice, since 2008 for 2D.
I upgraded my projector to 3D last year and the same cable works perfectly with 3D content (HDMI 1.4 projector and receiver)

Absolutely no issues.

I love Monoprice. They produce a first-rate product for a very reasonable price and, like you, I've never had any issues with them. It's pretty silly to buy into all this nonsense about "high end" cords & cabling improving A/V performance when all that's being transmitted are ones & zeros. But snake oil salesmen gotta' eat too, I suppose.
post #1273 of 1794
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I love Monoprice. They produce a first-rate product for a very reasonable price and, like you, I've never had any issues with them. It's pretty silly to buy into all this nonsense about "high end" cords & cabling improving A/V performance when all that's being transmitted are ones & zeros. But snake oil salesmen gotta' eat too, I suppose.

Yes... digital cable either work or they don't, and when they don't there's nothing subtle about the failure. There's no changes to shades of colors or contrast... none of that. It's pretty much unwatchable tearing, blocking and static.
post #1274 of 1794
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Originally Posted by ScottJ View Post

I've ordered a 50' Ultra-Slim Redmere (9432) as well as a 50' silver-plated standard cable (2678) from Monoprice. I chose the latter based on this test of long HDMI cables. (They did not test any Redmere cables.) If the standard cable works, I will stick with it, since there's no active electronics and therefore (presumably) higher long-term reliability.

Results: the Redmere cable works perfectly on either input. The silver-plated cable works on HDMI2 input perfectly, but cannot even get 480p60 on HDMI1. I tried both Lumagen outputs, same thing.

Despite what I said above I think I will stick with the Redmere cable, since it is clearly carrying the signal better, and it's thinner and easier to work with.
post #1275 of 1794
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

Yes... digital cable either work or they don't, and when they don't there's nothing subtle about the failure. There's no changes to shades of colors or contrast... none of that. It's pretty much unwatchable tearing, blocking and static.

the only thing i'm starting to wonder about this, is when dealing with these longer runs, the 'cheaper' cables do seem to have more frequent handshake issues. no idea to the truth of this, but I've heard/read that digital cables do still 'miss' the occasional 1 or 0 and it's only because of active 'error correction' that a completed signal makes it through. of course that begs the question of how accurate that error correction is, how much is used before the signal drops completely

again I don't know how much truth there is to it, and i'm not going to spend 1000bux on new hdmi cables to test it out, but I do wonder if my hatred for HDMI and its random handshake issues is made worse by my use of nothing but monoprice hdmi cables.
post #1276 of 1794
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Originally Posted by fierce_gt View Post

the only thing i'm starting to wonder about this, is when dealing with these longer runs, the 'cheaper' cables do seem to have more frequent handshake issues. no idea to the truth of this, but I've heard/read that digital cables do still 'miss' the occasional 1 or 0 and it's only because of active 'error correction' that a completed signal makes it through. of course that begs the question of how accurate that error correction is, how much is used before the signal drops completely

again I don't know how much truth there is to it, and i'm not going to spend 1000bux on new hdmi cables to test it out, but I do wonder if my hatred for HDMI and its random handshake issues is made worse by my use of nothing but monoprice hdmi cables.

There is no error correction on HDMI for the video part of the signal. Either the signal gets there or it doesn't and if it doesn't its catastrophic. So cheap cables for short distances are absolutely fine (as long as they are not faulty of course). The problem comes when you are using 10m cables or longer. Then you need a cable that is properly shielded and better constructed to minimize the drop In signal to noise ratio across its length. As the signal will be attenuated after such a length, we also need to make sure we haven't allowed too much interference/noise to get in due to poor shielding.
post #1277 of 1794
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Originally Posted by ScottJ View Post

Results: the Redmere cable works perfectly on either input. The silver-plated cable works on HDMI2 input perfectly, but cannot even get 480p60 on HDMI1. I tried both Lumagen outputs, same thing.

Despite what I said above I think I will stick with the Redmere cable, since it is clearly carrying the signal better, and it's thinner and easier to work with.

Good to know. I think I will try one for my projector to DUO run which is only about 15' running through the ceiling and down into a closet.
post #1278 of 1794
We took delivery of our 4810 one week ago. It replaced a JVC RS45 (which we thought was a big upgrade over a Sony VPL-VW40). In a nutshell, the 4810 is a big upgrade from the RS45, and we couldn’t be happier. Special thanks goes to Mike Garrett from AVScience who found us a ‘B-stock’ unit at a great price. Though I’ve dealt with Mike before (and am a long-time customer of the AVScience store), he continues to impress us with his quality service. Any concerns that we had about buying a ‘B-Stock’ immediately disappeared after I opened the box. Enclosed was a check sheet from AVScience. Before shipping it to us, a member of the AVS staff ran the unit through a series of tests, wrote down the number of hours on the lamp (44), and personally signed it. That’s a very nice touch.

After performing a basic greyscale calibration using the AVSHS-709 disk, we put on a movie we were familiar with (Star Trek: Insurrrection). Within 30 seconds my wife immediately said “This is clearer”. I did a bit of adjusting, setting the mode to Natural, engaged the eShift technology but backed it down to 30-30-30, and continued to watch the movie. We repeatedly remarked how much more detail we were seeing. The next night we watched another familiar film with the same reaction. The 4810 is, indeed, a big upgrade from the RS45.

On our fifth night we decided to give 3D a try. We’re using the new RF emitter from JVC and bought a few pair of the inexpensive Samsung 5100 glasses. We are not fans of 3D, largely due to a lack of film titles we are interested in. We started at the top, ‘Avatar’, which we’d seen in 3D in a good (not great) theater. Once again my wife was the first to react. “This is much better than when we saw this in the theater” was her reaction.
In a week or so we’ll have our friendly ISF-tech perform a full calibration. He’s a JVC dealer himself, and dying to get his hands on the CMS system. In the meantime, we’ll simply enjoy.

Note: we have a dedicated HT Room, fully light controlled. We bought our first Projector from Alan Gouger at AVS (a Davis DL-S8 DLP). This is our 5th or 6th projector, including a couple of Sony’s, a Panny, and a Sim2. I was part of the first THX-Level 2/Advanced training class at Skywalker Ranch back in 1993. I mention this only so readers can gauge our level on interest in Home Theater.
post #1279 of 1794
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Originally Posted by johng View Post

We took delivery of our 4810 one week ago. It replaced a JVC RS45 (which we thought was a big upgrade over a Sony VPL-VW40). In a nutshell, the 4810 is a big upgrade from the RS45, and we couldn’t be happier. Special thanks goes to Mike Garrett from AVScience who found us a ‘B-stock’ unit at a great price. Though I’ve dealt with Mike before (and am a long-time customer of the AVScience store), he continues to impress us with his quality service. Any concerns that we had about buying a ‘B-Stock’ immediately disappeared after I opened the box. Enclosed was a check sheet from AVScience. Before shipping it to us, a member of the AVS staff ran the unit through a series of tests, wrote down the number of hours on the lamp (44), and personally signed it. That’s a very nice touch.

After performing a basic greyscale calibration using the AVSHS-709 disk, we put on a movie we were familiar with (Star Trek: Insurrrection). Within 30 seconds my wife immediately said “This is clearer”. I did a bit of adjusting, setting the mode to Natural, engaged the eShift technology but backed it down to 30-30-30, and continued to watch the movie. We repeatedly remarked how much more detail we were seeing. The next night we watched another familiar film with the same reaction. The 4810 is, indeed, a big upgrade from the RS45.

Thanks for your review John. I currently have a RS40 and was going to get a 4810 this last year but couldn't so I am ready to upgrade this fall. I'm going to see what JVC announces at Cedia and will either get one of the newer models or a B-stock RS4810 or RS56. Glad to read you notice a big upgrade from your RS45 to the RS4810.

Thanks,
Mike
post #1280 of 1794
I am telling you the 4810 is amazing. My son hates 3d at the movies he is 31. He saw Avatar on mine and couldnt stop watching. Mine is calibrated and I use the Jvc glasses. But it is jaw dropping. I have only noticed ghosting in one movie. And it was one scene in Top Gun. I dont try to look for it. So I dont notice it at all. Well have fun with that beautiful baby you have there. It is an awesome experience.
post #1281 of 1794
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Originally Posted by johng View Post

We took delivery of our 4810 one week ago. It replaced a JVC RS45 (which we thought was a big upgrade over a Sony VPL-VW40). In a nutshell, the 4810 is a big upgrade from the RS45, and we couldn’t be happier. Special thanks goes to Mike Garrett from AVScience who found us a ‘B-stock’ unit at a great price. Though I’ve dealt with Mike before (and am a long-time customer of the AVScience store), he continues to impress us with his quality service. Any concerns that we had about buying a ‘B-Stock’ immediately disappeared after I opened the box. Enclosed was a check sheet from AVScience. Before shipping it to us, a member of the AVS staff ran the unit through a series of tests, wrote down the number of hours on the lamp (44), and personally signed it. That’s a very nice touch.

After performing a basic greyscale calibration using the AVSHS-709 disk, we put on a movie we were familiar with (Star Trek: Insurrrection). Within 30 seconds my wife immediately said “This is clearer”. I did a bit of adjusting, setting the mode to Natural, engaged the eShift technology but backed it down to 30-30-30, and continued to watch the movie. We repeatedly remarked how much more detail we were seeing. The next night we watched another familiar film with the same reaction. The 4810 is, indeed, a big upgrade from the RS45.

On our fifth night we decided to give 3D a try. We’re using the new RF emitter from JVC and bought a few pair of the inexpensive Samsung 5100 glasses. We are not fans of 3D, largely due to a lack of film titles we are interested in. We started at the top, ‘Avatar’, which we’d seen in 3D in a good (not great) theater. Once again my wife was the first to react. “This is much better than when we saw this in the theater” was her reaction.
In a week or so we’ll have our friendly ISF-tech perform a full calibration. He’s a JVC dealer himself, and dying to get his hands on the CMS system. In the meantime, we’ll simply enjoy.

Note: we have a dedicated HT Room, fully light controlled. We bought our first Projector from Alan Gouger at AVS (a Davis DL-S8 DLP). This is our 5th or 6th projector, including a couple of Sony’s, a Panny, and a Sim2. I was part of the first THX-Level 2/Advanced training class at Skywalker Ranch back in 1993. I mention this only so readers can gauge our level on interest in Home Theater.


I have Samsung 5100 glasses as well as the JVCs and the JVCs are better (brighter) than the 5100. However I dont think its ~$80 better.
post #1282 of 1794
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I am telling you the 4810 is amazing. My son hates 3d at the movies he is 31. He saw Avatar on mine and couldnt stop watching. Mine is calibrated and I use the Jvc glasses. But it is jaw dropping. I have only noticed ghosting in one movie. And it was one scene in Top Gun. I dont try to look for it. So I dont notice it at all. Well have fun with that beautiful baby you have there. It is an awesome experience.


Glad you guys are enloying your 4810's - a great projector! Home theater rocks !! smile.gif
post #1283 of 1794
Well folks, I just plugged in my RS4810 for the first time and HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!

This is my first PJ. I don't have a screen yet but I am projecting on a 120" Diagonal 2:35:1 white board. This is in my living room and I tried samples of BD 1.4, STK 130 and Firehawk G3.

STK 130 is what I will order. The BD 1.4 is not a good choice for night time viewing and if you plan to sit even 1 sit on the side of the sweet spot. Same for the Firehawk. They help blacks a bit but they crush the whites and colors so much that is not a fair trade. At lease not for me. Also, seating just 1 seat on the side or laying down on a sofa will make the pic much much dimmer.

After 6 months of researching screens and PJs, this was the best way to get a feel for this size screen for my living room. The black levels in this projector even in a living room with white ceiling make gray screens useless. I can totally live with the black levels on a white screen, especially a STK 130.

I will post a picture tomorrow. I'm extremely impressed.

I would like to thank Mike Garrett for helping me with over 100 e-mail thread questions and the purchase of this amazing projector. He is extremely helpful and will have my business from now on.smile.gif
post #1284 of 1794
Another satisfied customer. And the projector is awesome. I have mine on a white 1.0 gain screen in a totally blacked out light controlled room. And even 3d is jaw dropping. I do use the Jvc glasses.
I haven't posted much about it on here however because the day after I ordered the projector my mother passed away. So had to work through some things first.
I am glad you like your projector. As much as I do.
post #1285 of 1794
What is the proper part # for the IR emitter? There seems to be two?

Thx!!!
post #1286 of 1794
There is an IR and a RF emitter. I use the Rf version.
post #1287 of 1794
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Originally Posted by rhale64L7 View Post

Another satisfied customer. And the projector is awesome. I have mine on a white 1.0 gain screen in a totally blacked out light controlled room. And even 3d is jaw dropping. I do use the Jvc glasses.
I haven't posted much about it on here however because the day after I ordered the projector my mother passed away. So had to work through some things first.
I am glad you like your projector. As much as I do.

Very sorry for your loss. It's nice to have things like home theater as a distraction from the challenges of daily life. I hope things have settled down for you a bit.
post #1288 of 1794
Thank you. And yes they have settled down. It is hard at first but we all have to remember god is with us. And it will get better.
Home theater has helped a lot. Although I went on a bit of an upgrade spree. Which probably isnt the greatest thing to do. But it does help to ease your mind. Only for a bit here and there. Then it all starts to really clear away. And things start falling back into place.smile.gif
post #1289 of 1794
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Originally Posted by rhale64L7 View Post

Another satisfied customer. And the projector is awesome. I have mine on a white 1.0 gain screen in a totally blacked out light controlled room. And even 3d is jaw dropping. I do use the Jvc glasses.
I haven't posted much about it on here however because the day after I ordered the projector my mother passed away. So had to work through some things first.
I am glad you like your projector. As much as I do.

Yes the Firehawk just killed all the pop, colors and the whites for a tad bit more black levels but then all the shadow detail also got crushed with it. If I could roll up the white $50 board I am using now , I would keep it. Lol
post #1290 of 1794
Yes I love my white screen
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