Offical JVC DLA-RS4810 Owners Thread - Page 4

Once humans have something on their mind they stick with it. So therefore expecting JVC to fail in your mind they will no matter what to you most likely

statement of the century.

If I had your Sony VW1000 i definitely wouldn't look at the new eshift2 JVC's this year. Even a marginal improvement over last year's models probably wouldn't seem like much to a true 4k projector.....Can you tell, I'm very jealous of your VW1000....

Mike
Edited by mbw23air - 9/24/12 at 4:55pm

I'm looking forward to your findings. If the Sony is good I probably won't wait to hear about the JVCs after how last year 3D improvements were confirmed as as well until you and others brought the truth to light.

I really prefer not having 2 projectors and I am still very pleased with the 2D image of my RS45 but if nothing fits this year with 3D and 2D I may possibly consider a 3D only projector to compliment the RS45's great 2D image.

Thanks so much Mike. We can finally put the confusion to rest.

+1. Now the inevitable - 'my wire grid is so much better than your wire grid' debates can begin...

OMG, color me shocked....

Not....

But in all seriousness Mike thanks for chasing this down.

I noticed the website is now corrected.

Thanks,
Mike

I don't see where it is corrected. It still mentions a new wire grid polarizer in the technical description (contrast ratio section) of the RS4810.

it looks like it was corrected on the main page. They have to change the tech spec page which also shows the same # of color profiles as the RS56/66. The 4810 has the same number as the X35/RS46.

Oh I see. Thanks zombie.

Good point. However I just like to Review newer product but I can't justify it if I will lose my shirt and sell it to someone else who might encounter an issue. That's happened a lot lately with their pjs...

There are dedicated threads here for a reason. Made by humans.

Good points. I would blame robots (or Replacement Refs) for picking those bad lamps the past couple of gens.

Sorry about the Packer game last night. They were definitely robbed!

Yea, I understand many owners have had their Sony 1000's replaced under warranty. Some have even had a couple of units replaced. I hope the new 50 does not befall the same fate.

Maybe we should compare JVC management with NFL management.

Willie

A Blue Green Bay Packer Fan

more important to mention - AVS, Sony and JVC take care of their customers. When I had an issue with my first RS55, AVS swapped it out without question.

I don't know of too many other AV dealers that are this accessible on a daily basis and offer the best prices.

By the way, I do enjoy visiting your site and reading you reviews!!

Thanks,
Mike

Agreed. I believe Sony also resets the warranty on the replacement unit.

Some questions of clarification/concern are construed as JVC bashing but it's just people like us that care and want to make an educated decision based on fact which is not unreasonable IMO. I don't know about Sony so I'll take your word but wholeheartedly agree about top notch service from AVS & JVC. Let's just say I wouldn't have my RS55 without their care for satisfaction. It's also why I'm a loyalist; especially to Alan (best customer service in the business bar none!).

And JVC gave me a free lamp when I had my yellow push issue after some dimming (the dimming really wasn't as severe as trying to calibrate out the yellow).

It's definitely a big difference from the way the budget MFR's treat their warranties (Acer, Optoma, Viewsonic). It's not that you cannot get those other companies to fix things, it's just they make you go through needless repetitive processes. That is one thing holding me back on the Optomas, Quality Control. Obviously due to sample sizes and BIAS, I cannot determine if Optoma is really that much trouble, but just going by my gut and combining what I've seen in this forum, Optoma is easier to deal with on newer models (hd33, etc..) where they have a lot of CURRENTLY manufactured stock. When you have a problem on an older model, well they can take FOREVER to get your unit back to you (kind of like what happened to some people by Infocus with the Infocus sp8602).

Not that anyone should avoid the budget MFR's, just that if you spend more money you generally get an easier to deal with warranty (as it should be).
Edited by coderguy - 9/25/12 at 8:06pm

Whats this obsession with "wire grid"? New "wire grid" or old "wire grid" the native CR of the "new" JVC's is effectively no different to what it was last year, the year before ,or probably the year before that.

If you currently own a JVC and see improved CR as a reason to "upgrade", dont waste your money.

I would be significant if it improves ansi contrast, it has been suggested but not confirmed.

I don't notice much (if any) difference in ANSI contrast between the DLP's and LCOS projectors I've owned. I do notice a different more rounded look and slightly more consistent look of DLP (sometimes you could say POPs a little more in certain scenes), but LCOS pops more in other scenes. I am not posting this to start a debate of ANSI contrast, as it is a difficult thing for an observer to determine (even with measurements), but I am just saying what I personally observed. On really blown out scenes, there seems to be a little difference, but then if I just change the gamma around a bit I can make it look the same.

You have to get a room so 100% perfectly dark (and I don't mean just black walls) to see much benefit from increased ANSI contrast beyond a certain point, and if I add that last 5% of darkness to a room, I do not see much difference from the previous 5% (before I darkened it). Sure the difference is huge from one point to another, but that last 5% just doesn't seem to make a huge difference for bright scenes (and that is one reason I kind of struggle to give ANSI contrast much benefit).
Edited by coderguy - 9/26/12 at 5:17am

Coder I wanna see your setup..

My room is nothing special (functionally it works), aesthetically most people have better rooms. My room is almost pure black (black ceiling, black curtains, black rugs, etc..).
However, I used to have a better room when I had a vaulted ceiling and no side walls (large empty space + black is better than small space + black), and this is because as the light sprays outward there is less reflection back to you (even if using black). The room I used to have my PJ in was like 30+ feet wide with a 20 foot vaulted ceiling, the current room is about 25 feet long and 17 feet wide I think. The wider room with a higher ceiling did work better in some ways.

I don't notice any difference in bright scenes so much (and you'd think I would due to ANSI contrast), but the main difference was just that the old room seemed to let the screen FLOAT a little more because of slightly less reflection. So there are reasons to eliminate that last 5% of reflection, but the difference in bright scenes by itself isn't much even though the overall experience is slightly different.

Just to let you know after reading alot I might be going with a HP SCreen lol