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post #2191 of 4487
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Originally Posted by mattoc59 View Post

Hey Rizz.
I currently have DirecTV but i did have both the scientific Atlanta and the newer black Samsung boxes with cablevision. Nothing helped. I am watching the football game right now on ESPN and no matter what I do the players have sort of a halo /blob trailing them around the back.

hey matto i'm having the same issue while watching football with my 950..i use rizzos settings but didnt want a dim picture while watching sports so i changed them and started to see the same issue..so now i'm back to rizzo settings because you see less of that halo/blob thing that youre talking about..sony needs to give rizzo a pay check..that guy is such a great help..i only disagree with his 3d settings..

one edit however you still will see the halo thing just not as bad..i'm starting to think that the 850 was better for sports watching
post #2192 of 4487
double post
post #2193 of 4487
Hello all,

Just trying to go through all the widgets available in the "Internet content" of the tv and I don't seem to see the yahoo widget ?
Am i in the right section to see the widgets and can we actually download more as the internet apps button doesn't seem to work?

I must admit the internet menu is a bit convoluted

thx
Edited by jrmtl - 12/31/12 at 5:28am
post #2194 of 4487
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Originally Posted by hellotv View Post

hey matto i'm having the same issue while watching football with my 950..i use rizzos settings but didnt want a dim picture while watching sports so i changed them and started to see the same issue..so now i'm back to rizzo settings because you see less of that halo/blob thing that youre talking about..sony needs to give rizzo a pay check..that guy is such a great help..i only disagree with his 3d settings..
one edit however you still will see the halo thing just not as bad..i'm starting to think that the 850 was better for sports watching

Smooth and Auto 1 + fast motion = Severe artifacts (possibly this halo)
Standard and Auto 1 + fast motion = Some artifacts

Clear and Clear Plus and Auto 1 = almost no discernible artifacts

Please just cut off Motionflow and Cinemotion and see if you have the same issue. I know Rizz has Motionflow off; thus the issue being resolved?
post #2195 of 4487
Is anyone else here a traditionalist and roll with MotionFlow turned off?

I tried MotionFlow set to Standard but it the SOE is still noticeable to me. I guess I prefer the jagged effect after all...
post #2196 of 4487
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Originally Posted by THX View Post

Is anyone else here a traditionalist and roll with MotionFlow turned off?
I tried MotionFlow set to Standard but it the SOE is still noticeable to me. I guess I prefer the jagged effect after all...

Motionflow off terminates SOE effect
post #2197 of 4487
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Motionflow off terminates SOE effect
Try clear plus ( I think it's called) it will engage backlight scanning and local dimming without adding SOE or artifacts.
post #2198 of 4487
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Try clear plus ( I think it's called) it will engage backlight scanning and local dimming without adding SOE or artifacts.

I made a day time setting using Clear Plus and compensated for the slight darkening caused by it. The motion is superb with no SOE or artifacts; as I wanted to give options for those who were looking for for a more purist look. Yet using the tech we spent thousands of dollars on (I do recommend Clear in most cases).
post #2199 of 4487
If anyone has figured these mode out please let med know what they mean:


Scene mode
Does it matter what ”Scene mode” you are using? Cinema/standard/auto?? If you make the same settings under different Scene mode isn’t the effect the same? Or does the Scene mode add something extra which cannot be controlled by the available settings?

Picture mode
The same question goes for ”Picture mode”. What kind of extra magic does this setting provide? What is the difference between ”Standard” and ”Personal”? And can’t the effect these settings brings be controlled via the normal available settings?
post #2200 of 4487
Happy New Year to everyone .....
post #2201 of 4487
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Happy New Year to everyone .....

Thanks, and I nice one to you too smile.gif
post #2202 of 4487
Had to share this story.I went to my local Amc yesterday to see Django Unchained and I felt right at home.There was a light band on the screen! I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me,same place as my 950.Happy New Year !
post #2203 of 4487
@EddieDigital - May be time to see an ophthalmologist.
post #2204 of 4487
Still 20/20 Doctor M.Just a funny (or sad depending how you look at it) coincidence.
post #2205 of 4487
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Originally Posted by hellotv View Post

hey matto i'm having the same issue while watching football with my 950..i use rizzos settings but didnt want a dim picture while watching sports so i changed them and started to see the same issue..so now i'm back to rizzo settings because you see less of that halo/blob thing that youre talking about..sony needs to give rizzo a pay check..that guy is such a great help..i only disagree with his 3d settings..
one edit however you still will see the halo thing just not as bad..i'm starting to think that the 850 was better for sports watching

Holy Crap, it sounds like your describing a similar is that i had. Basically for me, the players looked great, the field looked great, but surrounding the players( or anything that moved for that matter) there was this blurry-halo. I went through every setting and nothing made a difference, I actually had BB come out and replace the tv. My replacement set looked noticeably better with live tv, i went from terribad eye cancer to acceptable, also the new set seems to have better zone lighting control and less light bleed. That being said, this 3rd set has a dead pixel( bottom left) and about 5 thumb sized dark sports under the screen. It is also being returned...I have a VT50 coming on Thurs and will hopefully be happy.

So i recommend trying to get a new set and seeing if the problem persists on the new set.
post #2206 of 4487
Hi,
How to transfer a photo from iPhone to XBRHX950 using "Wi-Fi® without a router". Sony website says

"Sometimes your friends want to share their personal photos and videos on your beautiful HDTV. With Sony's Wi-Fi Direct™ Mode, your friends can throw personal content to your TV without connecting to your home network. Wi-Fi Direct completely bypasses the Wi-Fi access point/router, so it’s easy to set up."

Or it works only on android? TIA.
post #2207 of 4487
First, let me apologize for the long post and Best Buy customer service is excellent to deal with. With this being said.......

Here we go again. Getting ready for my 3rd 55 HX950.

These tv's have superior color and pop. The panel's 2D picture is almost 3D quality. I have returned 2 sets due to severe DSE. I have tried several settings on the thread to see if I could tweak the tv where it was unnoticeable – bad when the wifey see’s it and asks what are those smudges on the screen frown.gif.

Any suggestions on getting an actual good replacement versus playing the panel lottery?

TV # 1 build date Oct 2012 – purchased 11/16 – bad DSE, no banding, or dead pixels.
TV # 2 build date Oct 2012 – exchange 12/04 – DSE not as bad, but still noticeable, no banding, or dead pixels.
TV # 3 to be received 1/12/13.

I know Best Buy stock has been out on this tv, so really hoping a newer build may offer remedy to DSE.

Best way to test for this is using the DSE Test - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDzcnxglmIE – barely noticeable on this one.

Severe on this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtmqhAtdjE0 – especially on the cats.

I tried watching the new Ice Age movie on Bluray - 2D and that was the final deal breaker for set # 2.

I can run the above DSE tests on my Samsung UN55B8500 and none of the issues occur. Maybe I got lucky on this set – had to replace power board due to capacitors – was really hoping the Sony would be my replacement for this one.

Panel-wise Sony is more crisp and color is unreal – can tell it’s a newer panel but can’t deal with the DSE.

Anyone received a December panel that does not have any issues?
post #2208 of 4487
Pardon the ignorance , but where exactly is the build date on box ?
post #2209 of 4487
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Originally Posted by jrmtl View Post

Pardon the ignorance , but where exactly is the build date on box ?

It's not on the box outside sticker.
The build date is on the UL sticker on the back of the TV, and that is only the production date of assembled TV, and not the actual LED panel production date, that date on on LED panel inside of TV and is inaccessible unless you removed back panel.
Edited by IMRIZZO - 1/3/13 at 8:33am
post #2210 of 4487
Anyone? There must be some of you guys that knows what Scene mode and Picture mode does to the picture. There is so much tweaking going on in this thread.

Is the Scene mode just some preselected settings you can choose from? Does it make a difference which one is chosen?

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Originally Posted by klinge View Post

If anyone has figured these mode out please let med know what they mean:
Scene mode
Does it matter what ”Scene mode” you are using? Cinema/standard/auto?? If you make the same settings under different Scene mode isn’t the effect the same? Or does the Scene mode add something extra which cannot be controlled by the available settings?
Picture mode
The same question goes for ”Picture mode”. What kind of extra magic does this setting provide? What is the difference between ”Standard” and ”Personal”? And can’t the effect these settings brings be controlled via the normal available settings?
post #2211 of 4487
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Originally Posted by kickalillas2 View Post

Holy Crap, it sounds like your describing a similar is that i had. Basically for me, the players looked great, the field looked great, but surrounding the players( or anything that moved for that matter) there was this blurry-halo. I went through every setting and nothing made a difference, I actually had BB come out and replace the tv. My replacement set looked noticeably better with live tv, i went from terribad eye cancer to acceptable, also the new set seems to have better zone lighting control and less light bleed. That being said, this 3rd set has a dead pixel( bottom left) and about 5 thumb sized dark sports under the screen. It is also being returned...I have a VT50 coming on Thurs and will hopefully be happy.
So i recommend trying to get a new set and seeing if the problem persists on the new set.

Could you please post your impressions once you get the VT 50?

Thanks.
post #2212 of 4487
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Originally Posted by GShock71 View Post

Could you please post your impressions once you get the VT 50?
Thanks.

Will do. I just received it yesterday so i took some time to run the break in slides. Expect a detailed comparison within a few days.
post #2213 of 4487
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Originally Posted by GShock71 View Post

Could you please post your impressions once you get the VT 50?
Thanks.

I'll give it to you now. The plasma will be dimmer but uniform in the screen. The motion handling will be a little more natural, but it will show image retention and have to be babied so it doesn't burn in. It will also be a nice picture, but plasmas are fuzzy in comparison to LCD with the overscan and pixel orbiting.

They also use a lot more energy and generate a lot of heat. Great in the winter, horrible in the summer.
post #2214 of 4487
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Originally Posted by BarrettF77 View Post

I'll give it to you now. The plasma will be dimmer but uniform in the screen. The motion handling will be a little more natural, but it will show image retention and have to be babied so it doesn't burn in. It will also be a nice picture, but plasmas are fuzzy in comparison to LCD with the overscan and pixel orbiting.
They also use a lot more energy and generate a lot of heat. Great in the winter, horrible in the summer.

Well I did have my 950's back light set on zero, so the plasma is about as bright. I have not calibrated or tweaked the vt50 yet. I'm going though the break in process...running slides, watching tons of general content, NOTHING WITH STATIC LOGOS for awhile.

Each of my 3 950's did have the halo-blur thing going on and 2 suffered from varying degrees of DSE, and 2 had dead pixels. I can confirm right off the bat though that there is no halo blur, DSE, or dead pixels. WOOHOO! I'm one for one on the VT50s.

I don't think plasma is inherently fuzzier than lcds because of overscan and pixels orbiters. The Vt50 picture seems just as crisp as the 950's, maybe a slight edge to the 950 but that could because i liked Flavius' settings so much.

Anyway, Ill have more on this in the next few days.
post #2215 of 4487
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Originally Posted by kickalillas2 View Post

Well I did have my 950's back light set on zero, so the plasma is about as bright. I have not calibrated or tweaked the vt50 yet. I'm going though the break in process...running slides, watching tons of general content, NOTHING WITH STATIC LOGOS for awhile.
Each of my 3 950's did have the halo-blur thing going on and 2 suffered from varying degrees of DSE, and 2 had dead pixels. I can confirm right off the bat though that there is no halo blur, DSE, or dead pixels. WOOHOO! I'm one for one on the VT50s.
I don't think plasma is inherently fuzzier than lcds because of overscan and pixels orbiters. The Vt50 picture seems just as crisp as the 950's, maybe a slight edge to the 950 but that could because i liked Flavius' settings so much.
Anyway, Ill have more on this in the next few days.

Something here does not sound right; if you used Flavs setting then you do not have the BL on Min/0. If you do a search on this thread you will see 4 or more impressions of the VT50 including mine. I think this halo/blur thing was just ignorance to the effect of Motionflow/Cinemotion usage. The other issues certainly are there as I had 2 dead pixels on my first display; but I am good to go now.
post #2216 of 4487
I guess I missed something here,..... Why are there Panasonic owners posting their finding on a Sony LED thread ??
post #2217 of 4487
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Originally Posted by bunyun316 View Post

First, let me apologize for the long post and Best Buy customer service is excellent to deal with. With this being said.......
Here we go again. Getting ready for my 3rd 55 HX950.
These tv's have superior color and pop. The panel's 2D picture is almost 3D quality. I have returned 2 sets due to severe DSE. I have tried several settings on the thread to see if I could tweak the tv where it was unnoticeable – bad when the wifey see’s it and asks what are those smudges on the screen frown.gif.
Any suggestions on getting an actual good replacement versus playing the panel lottery?
TV # 1 build date Oct 2012 – purchased 11/16 – bad DSE, no banding, or dead pixels.
TV # 2 build date Oct 2012 – exchange 12/04 – DSE not as bad, but still noticeable, no banding, or dead pixels.
TV # 3 to be received 1/12/13.
I know Best Buy stock has been out on this tv, so really hoping a newer build may offer remedy to DSE.
Best way to test for this is using the DSE Test - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDzcnxglmIE – barely noticeable on this one.
Severe on this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtmqhAtdjE0 – especially on the cats.
I tried watching the new Ice Age movie on Bluray - 2D and that was the final deal breaker for set # 2.
I can run the above DSE tests on my Samsung UN55B8500 and none of the issues occur. Maybe I got lucky on this set – had to replace power board due to capacitors – was really hoping the Sony would be my replacement for this one.
Panel-wise Sony is more crisp and color is unreal – can tell it’s a newer panel but can’t deal with the DSE.
Anyone received a December panel that does not have any issues?

vertical banding is not DSE, as those videos claim.
post #2218 of 4487
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Originally Posted by kickalillas2 View Post

Well I did have my 950's back light set on zero, so the plasma is about as bright. I have not calibrated or tweaked the vt50 yet. I'm going though the break in process...running slides, watching tons of general content, NOTHING WITH STATIC LOGOS for awhile.
Each of my 3 950's did have the halo-blur thing going on and 2 suffered from varying degrees of DSE, and 2 had dead pixels. I can confirm right off the bat though that there is no halo blur, DSE, or dead pixels. WOOHOO! I'm one for one on the VT50s.
I don't think plasma is inherently fuzzier than lcds because of overscan and pixels orbiters. The Vt50 picture seems just as crisp as the 950's, maybe a slight edge to the 950 but that could because i liked Flavius' settings so much.
Anyway, Ill have more on this in the next few days.

I get that you are excited about something that doesn't have the flaws of the other set. I had a 65" vt30 and gt30 in my two rooms. Both sets started great. But after the break in what I found was Panny uses a phosphor that is quick reacting for ghosting. But it also begins to retain images and gain burn in as it ages. Most plasmas become less likely to exhibit this behavior as time goes by. The VT 30 and the VT 50 is even worse from my research. Believe me when I wanted to like plasma more. Watching sports with over 1,000hrs in my plasma for one football game yielded image retention that was terrible. Break it in now and get your time in before your return period expires. I think you will find that once you see it's shortcomings you will switch again. The 950 is laiden with quality problems such as pixel defects and some banding. But for everyday use, games, sports, and having kids, I'll never buy another plasma. To many things "that are no no's". I rather watch TV instead of babysit it.

I time dark spots will appear as the phosphor age unevenly. With an LCD, it's what it will be the life of the set. Plasma keeps changing and shifting based upon what you watch. But if that's your thing, enjoy!
post #2219 of 4487
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Originally Posted by BarrettF77 View Post

I get that you are excited about something that doesn't have the flaws of the other set. I had a 65" vt30 and gt30 in my two rooms. Both sets started great. But after the break in what I found was Panny uses a phosphor that is quick reacting for ghosting. But it also begins to retain images and gain burn in as it ages. Most plasmas become less likely to exhibit this behavior as time goes by. The VT 30 and the VT 50 is even worse from my research. Believe me when I wanted to like plasma more. Watching sports with over 1,000hrs in my plasma for one football game yielded image retention that was terrible. Break it in now and get your time in before your return period expires. I think you will find that once you see it's shortcomings you will switch again. The 950 is laiden with quality problems such as pixel defects and some banding. But for everyday use, games, sports, and having kids, I'll never buy another plasma. To many things "that are no no's". I rather watch TV instead of babysit it.
In time dark spots will appear as the phosphor age unevenly. With an LCD, it's what it will be the life of the set. Plasma keeps changing and shifting based upon what you watch. But if that's your thing, enjoy!
.

Lastly, when I went through my exchange of the plasma. Panasonic told me on the phone it was next to impossible to damage a plasma if theirs. The tech called the same day and was told the exact opposite. Said to be very careful with any gaming or 4:3 content. Also, watch when you get horizontal banding on the set from dark horizontal images on bright backgrounds and vice versa. Once you take your rosé colored glasses off it will be a much different experience.
post #2220 of 4487
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I guess I missed something here,..... Why are there Panasonic owners posting their finding on a Sony LED thread ??

Rizz, if you think this is bad, drop by the Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread. Some guy (Bolt989) posts dozens of "pro Panasonic plasma" vs. condescending "anti Samsung LED" messages nearly every single day. Talk about an agenda, it's gotten totally out of hand.
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