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post #2671 of 4484
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I have been contemplating getting one of those, but spoke to someone who ordered it for use with his plasma and wasn't that impressed with it's results ?? I may try getting one from Amazon so I can return it if necessary with no hassle.

Definitely let me know what your impressions are if you decide to pick one up. Hopefully, someone in the forums with either a 750/850/950 can let us know how it looks with the 2012 Sony's. If anyone also uses an Oppo with it... even better.
Edited by cmay91472 - 2/14/13 at 10:21am
post #2672 of 4484
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Originally Posted by schlick View Post

A recent review of the Darblet.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/test-report-darbee-darblet-video-enhancer
I've read a few reviews for the Darbee but I'm more interested in a users opinion, reviews although supposedly unbiased, are usually biased anyway.
post #2673 of 4484
The main thing I took from the article was:

"It sharpened the image, but without the normal halo effects that accompany simple edge enhancement."

My Panasonic bdt500 has a feature called Super Resolution that makes lower quality (sub 1080p) look better. It has a feature called Detail Clarity that goes from -6 to +6 and it also sharpens the image without the normal halo effects that accompanies simple edge enhancement.

It also has Chroma Process:

"The "Chroma Processing: Advanced" setting (which is the default) is what activates the new 2010 UniPhier processing option for enhanced chroma upconversion. Basically it does the de-interlacing of the video signal first so it has more color detail information to work with before upconverting from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 output. If you want to experiment, then change it from Advanced (improved processor) to "Normal" (same processing as 2009 models) to "off" (primitive 2-tap color conversion). The differences will be most noticeable on areas of very fine color detail like where you have thin stripes or bands of color within the image. The borders of these color changes should look best with Chroma Process set to Advanced."

BD does not display the color info at full 1080p, as it is subsampled, the black and white info is at full resolution. "Chroma subsampling is the practice of encoding images by implementing less resolution for chroma information than for luma information, taking advantage of the human visual system's lower acuity for color differences than for luminance."

The TV also has that detail enhancer, edge enhancer and reality creation. Between my BD player and the TV's features I will forego the Darblet. If I want a better quality picture beyond what I have I will buy a better TV in the future,
post #2674 of 4484
will be taking delivery of my 65HX950 Tuesday!!

any recommendations for ISF calibrators in the DC/Maryland/VA area that have experience with this particular set?

any other things to do once the TV arrives? dead pixel test etc...?
post #2675 of 4484
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I've read a few reviews for the Darbee but I'm more interested in a users opinion, reviews although supposedly unbiased, are usually biased anyway.
There is a thread in here >>> Click Here , generally the people who buy them are happy. Sold more than a few and just positive responses.
post #2676 of 4484
What did you do CP?...
post #2677 of 4484
Personally I would not buy a Darbee for the 950... They are better used on a bigger stage like a projector. Don't waste your money
post #2678 of 4484
Just recieved email my 950 is on the way to the store waiting for pickup email, hopefully tonight
post #2679 of 4484
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Originally Posted by jmathew34 View Post

will be taking delivery of my 65HX950 Tuesday!!

any recommendations for ISF calibrators in the DC/Maryland/VA area that have experience with this particular set?

any other things to do once the TV arrives? dead pixel test etc...?

HIGHLY recommend Jeff Meier from AccuCal. I wouldn't let anyone else work on my displays (Pioneer Elites). He's calibrated just about every display out there and does a fantastic job. Again, highly recommended.
post #2680 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Just recieved email my 950 is on the way to the store waiting for pickup email, hopefully tonight

Good news, huh?
post #2681 of 4484
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Originally Posted by jmathew34 View Post

will be taking delivery of my 65HX950 Tuesday!!

any recommendations for ISF calibrators in the DC/Maryland/VA area that have experience with this particular set?

any other things to do once the TV arrives? dead pixel test etc...?

FYI.... Unlike other tvs that have special calibration menus or modes that calibraters have access to like ISF day and night modes, hx950 has no such thing. They will calibrate your tv via the exact same picture settings you already have access to.... so although they certainly will dial in your picture optimally, they are not providing you access to above and beyond modes like with a VT50 or other tvs with special calibration modes/menus.
post #2682 of 4484
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Good news, huh?
Yeah I'm excited. I didn't get the extended warranty on the Sony. How many of you did for the 950/929 just curious. Getting back to the Darbee I don't think you would see a diffrence in using one. The Sony throws such a great picture already use the money to purchase extra blu-rays. When I had the Sony VW90ES I purchased the Edge Duo and I ended up selling the Duo here on the forum. I know 2 different items but basically they are doing the same enhancing the PQ where I don't believe Sony needs too much help. IMO.
post #2683 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Yeah I'm excited. I didn't get the extended warranty on the Sony. How many of you did for the 950/929 just curious. Getting back to the Darbee I don't think you would see a diffrence in using one. The Sony throws such a great picture already use the money to purchase extra blu-rays. When I had the Sony VW90ES I purchased the Edge Duo and I ended up selling the Duo here on the forum. I know 2 different items but basically they are doing the same enhancing the PQ where I don't believe Sony needs too much help. IMO.

The Darbee is a little better than the EdgeDuo, but as you said the difference on the 929.950 would be so minimal it's not worth it I've already got a 200+ B/R library ( and I told myself I wasn't going to buy disc again) I had over 500 DVD's and a lot of them unopened.
post #2684 of 4484
That's a collection. If my Sony arrives tonight I will probably purchase SkyFall as my first movie on the 950. Been awhile since I've watched a Bluray. Hopefully the OPPO will fire up smile.gif Also we are in a Lake Effect snow warning so I would hate to travel tomorrow. Could have a foot of the white stuff by then
post #2685 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

That's a collection. If my Sony arrives tonight I will probably purchase SkyFall as my first movie on the 950. Been awhile since I've watched a Bluray. Hopefully the OPPO will fire up smile.gif Also we are in a Lake Effect snow warning so I would hate to travel tomorrow. Could have a foot of the white stuff by then

If you bring it home in the cold weather be sure to allow it to sit for about 1 hour plus, so it acclimates to room temp, so it doesn't get condensation on the inside of the panel from the heat of the electronics (a ounce of prevention etc, etc.)
Edited by IMRIZZO - 2/15/13 at 3:48pm
post #2686 of 4484
Thanks. I'm usually pretty cautious like that. I'll probably wait a few hours.
post #2687 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Thanks. I'm usually pretty cautious like that. I'll probably wait a few hours.

Some guys are just in such a rush they don't stop to think about the possibility or results of condensation.
post #2688 of 4484
Hello all...

Coming back to this DSE ( very subtle ) issue with the HX950 and since I have a mild effect , is it worth getting a replacement or do they all have this problem ?

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post #2689 of 4484
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Originally Posted by jrmtl View Post

Hello all...

Coming back to this DSE ( very subtle ) issue with the HX950 and since I have a mild effect , is it worth getting a replacement or do they all have this problem ?

confused.gif

Your replacement may have more problems .....banding, dead pixels, more severe DSE.
post #2690 of 4484
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Originally Posted by jrmtl View Post

Hello all...

Coming back to this DSE ( very subtle ) issue with the HX950 and since I have a mild effect , is it worth getting a replacement or do they all have this problem ?

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55 or 65 ?

I want to change my 55 for the same problème because many reviews say "no banding" but it is reality or tests are not true ? I say what because many users with good eyes say had banding and reviews says no banding... On 65, i know is very dificult to get one without banding but for 55 ? Rare or not rare ?

Thanks and excuse my poor US language frown.gif
post #2691 of 4484
I have a question to all who have a XBR 950 55"... I am loyal Sony XBR owner.. However I am running out of patience... I have gone through 3 55" 929's and now I am on my third 950 55".. The last set delivered by Best Buy on 1/28/13 (with a production date of 12/12)... I have had a few weeks to run and observe the set and is currently free of dead pixels and the top right corner which has been a problem with some shadowing on the previous two was much better and hardly noticeable... The bad news is that when light colored scenes are panned near the top left corner a dirty screen effect is visible , It appears almost like a few modest dew spots . These are light and otherwise non existent when viewing most of the time.... But it is an aggravation and of course my eyes continue to gravitate there... My questions are: should I keep the set and learn to accept it, return for a fourth set in hopes of "perfection" or is there a way to minimize the DSE or , with use will the effect get better?... by the way, I have a 32XBR2 which is 6 years old and is still "perfect"


See below as to what has already transpired








RE: post #1556 , 1707
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Originally Posted by Garloo57

I sent an email to my Best Buy rep and store manger outlining the above. I agree that we are not talking about small potatoes here... I know that even though it is only one dead pixel, it is like the micro scratch that only you can see on the car door; once you know the location your eyes will always gravitate to that spot.. If another set is coming that will make 3- 929's and 3- 950's.. Lets see how Best Buy handles it.....

Here is my response from Best Buy......

Wow, I am truly sorry to hear that. Given the history with the Sonys, and knowing your love for a quality image, I'm curious if you've looked at or entertained the idea of the Panasonic 55vt50, as it's the best TV on the market, my own personal favorite, and in my experience has not come back with any such defects out of the box, let me know if you'd entertain that idea. I'll touch base with Mike about the Sony.

Thanks,

Happy Thanksgiving.





and my response just emailed..


Hi A----,
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. As for the Panasonic, I don't really want a plasma set. I know that quality control on the XBR panels may be an issue but I know that "good ones" are out there. After all of this effort on both our parts l want and deserve a problem free XBR... Take care.. I know that you will be ultra busy... Just let me know.



11-24-12

I just wanted to attach for the learned followers .. The dead pixel as well as a milky white abnormalady which is is visible on the lower center part of the screen.. it appears to be a cluster effecting at least 3-5 pixel area... Any ideas and would everybody agree that I should request another 950 ???? The picture is otherwise better on this et than the last one which had the screen burn and dead pixel....



1-17-13

I wanted to let the readers know that the light abnormality which was located around the center of the screen has now developed into 2 separate burnt out pixels.... Ii sent another email to Best Buy.... so they can order another set.. They had asked me if it would be ok to "open" the new set and set it up at the store... to check it out and make sure it is ok etc.. I told them , no, I want the new set delivered and unpacked by the Geek Squad and set up by them .... as evidenced by the nearly 45 days for this set to exhibit 3 separate burnt out pixels clusters, nothing is apt to show up when the set is first plugged in anyways....
post #2692 of 4484
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Your replacement may have more problems .....banding, dead pixels, more severe DSE.

If the only issue you have is minor DSE, you should count your blessings. As Rizzo noted, a replacement may have dead pixels, noticeable banding and/or more noticeable DSE than your subtle DSE.
post #2693 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Davids777 View Post

55 or 65 ?

I want to change my 55 for the same problème because many reviews say "no banding" but it is reality or tests are not true ? I say what because many users with good eyes say had banding and reviews says no banding... On 65, i know is very dificult to get one without banding but for 55 ? Rare or not rare ?

Thanks and excuse my poor US language frown.gif

Almost all LEDs 65s and up from all manufacturers will have vertical banding to some degree, some more than others. On the 65HX950s, it tends to be minor or subtle compared to the Samsung 65ES8000 which is "in your face" see it on everything vertical banding.

My 65HX950 has a very faint vertical band in the center which is visible when viewing grey scale slides. Since I have no dead pixels, no noticeable DSE, there is no way I would consider exchanging over a vertical band that is not noticeable during regular viewing.
post #2694 of 4484
Thank's for answer wink.gif For me, it's vertical banding on center, big DSE and some spots. All this problems are only visible on some pans (skys, snow...) and very hard to see on fixed image. I want to know if this problem is usual on 55" because if can had a no banding set, i try to change... if many models had this problem, it's a bad news but i don't lose time with this...

I haved 55ES8000 two months and this TV is much badest on banding, clouding... Usualy, i like Samy but not this time.
Edited by Davids777 - 2/16/13 at 12:23pm
post #2695 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Davids777 View Post

55 or 65 ?

I want to change my 55 for the same problème because many reviews say "no banding" but it is reality or tests are not true ? I say what because many users with good eyes say had banding and reviews says no banding... On 65, i know is very dificult to get one without banding but for 55 ? Rare or not rare ?

Thanks and excuse my poor US language frown.gif

I have the 55
post #2696 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Garloo57 View Post

I have a question to all who have a XBR 950 55"... I am loyal Sony XBR owner.. However I am running out of patience... I have gone through 3 55" 929's and now I am on my third 950 55".. The last set delivered by Best Buy on 1/28/13 (with a production date of 12/12)... I have had a few weeks to run and observe the set and is currently free of dead pixels and the top right corner which has been a problem with some shadowing on the previous two was much better and hardly noticeable... The bad news is that when light colored scenes are panned near the top left corner a dirty screen effect is visible , It appears almost like a few modest dew spots . These are light and otherwise non existent when viewing most of the time.... But it is an aggravation and of course my eyes continue to gravitate there... My questions are: should I keep the set and learn to accept it, return for a fourth set in hopes of "perfection" or is there a way to minimize the DSE or , with use will the effect get better?... by the way, I have a 32XBR2 which is 6 years old and is still "..

Garloo, sorry to hear about the continued troubles with the tv.

I'm in the mindset that until you are satisfied, you should keep exchanging. I exchanged 11 times....yes 11. Seven had dead pixels, two had horrible vertical banding, one had a defective screen, and one in hindsight I probably should have kept. I finally decided to try Sony, and lucked out on my first 65HX950.

Of all the possible defects....dead pixels, vertical banding, uniformity and/or flash lighting.... DSE would rank as least distracting to me. Now, I'm not saying severe cases of DSE would not warrant an exchange, but the way you described it, it sounds very minimal.

From last count you are on set number 6? You may very well get a perfect set if you exchange again, but if minimal DSE is all that affects this latest set, I think that is actually pretty good and if you get a replacement with any of the other aforementioned defects, would it bother you more or less than minimal DSE?

I'm not going to tell you what you should or shouldn't do, but I wanted to let you know I feel your frustration having exchanged so many times myself.

Please keep us updated with what you decide to do.
post #2697 of 4484
Good news! Your order is ready for pickup
post #2698 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Good news! Your order is ready for pickup

post #2699 of 4484
Only bad thing is debating whether to go tonight 60 mile round trip or go tomorrow. Had that Lake Effect snow and the roads are pretty slick. Will probably go tomorrow...what will power I have smile.gif
Edited by Browninggold - 2/16/13 at 2:44pm
post #2700 of 4484
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Only bad thing is debating whether to go tonight 60 mile round trip or go tomorrow. Had that Lake Effect snow and the roads are pretty slick. Will probably go tomorrow...what will power I have smile.gif

You've waited this long what's another day, smart move.
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