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post #3031 of 4483
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Originally Posted by ufsteez View Post

Just took delivery of my 65 xbr950 last week. TV is great. Incredible picture, minimal banding if any, and no visible clouding or anything on regular settings. However, when I'm in game mode, and there is a black screen, I'm seeing some pretty serious clouding/flashlighting. When I switch back to standard and my normal settings, it is completely gone, so it must be something that is turned off via game mode, but just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience? It's not really noticeable when playing games and I actually really like game mode since lag is good and the graphic degradation isn't nearly as discernible as it is on my 55 d8000. Just wanted to make sure something isn't wrong with my TV. Could attach pics if that would help.

yeah i have it.. i think in game mode the local dimming is turned off, thats why you see the clouding. its really not that big of a issue for me anymore because only when gaming do i have local dimming off. i think thats why everyone sees clouding on the home screen because l/d is also off on that screen.not sure why everyone is freaking out about what they see on the home screen because l/d is always off on that screen and who the hell has l/d off while watching tv/movies, no one ever.
post #3032 of 4483
Just purchased a XBR-55HX950 today. Love it compared to my old 52XBR9.

Bought it at Fry's and they matched Amazon's price. smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
post #3033 of 4483
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

LED Dynamic Control is off by default in game mode.

Go picture settings - advanced - LED Dynamic Control Standard.

Surprised your Full LED backlit set has clouding. Care to explain Cmay?

ummm.... because local dimming is turned off on game mode.... duh
post #3034 of 4483
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

ummm.... because local dimming is turned off on game mode.... duh

Very funny. But i thought full LED backlit sets didn't suffer with clouding unlike rubbish edge lit? Regardless of local dimming being off.
post #3035 of 4483
full array w local dimming doesn't suffer from the same flashlighting, edge bleed and clouding as edge lit because it has local dimming. Not sure why you are trying to play dumb here. Why would anyone ever turn it off when watching tv or a movie? If someone's has clouding then, it is obviously a defective tv if local dimming is turned on.
post #3036 of 4483
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Originally Posted by jeels View Post

Ditto! Trying to decide if it is time to upgrade my Sony XBR4 46 and 60" size sounds about right. Researching Panasonic plasma 60" which has a great picture! Unfortunately, I saw image retention on multiple sets while viewing at Magnolia, which gives pause when deciding to buy plasma. Have always like the picture of my XBR, and now working to decide if I want to stay in the Sony XBR family, but with a 55" as the 65" is kind of pricey.

I just replaced my 46XBR5 with a 55HX929 last week. The XBR4/5 series has a phenomenal PQ, so I wouldn't expect an enormous improvement in that respect. But I have been very pleased with my purchase so far. Because of the large bezel on the 46XBR4/5, the panel height and width are almost exactly the same on the 55HX929/950 but the larger screen size makes a big difference and results in a more cinematic experience in my eyes. I long contemplated going with the 55HX850, but having owned nothing but XBR's for the last 20 years I just couldn't pull the trigger on a downgrade.

Obviously, there are many added features and improvements in the HX950 (we're talking model year 2007 vs. 2012 after all), and you'll have to judge for yourself how much any of these factors weigh in your decision. But I got a great price on a new open-box set (well under $2K) and couldn't be happier!
post #3037 of 4483
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

Very funny. But i thought full LED backlit sets didn't suffer with clouding unlike rubbish edge lit? Regardless of local dimming being off.

When you turn-off local dimming the set reverts to edgelit (the LCD panels need some source of lighting)
post #3038 of 4483
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

When you turn-off local dimming the set reverts to edgelit (the LCD panels need some source of lighting)

Rizzo, hArd2bear knows..., he's just having a little fun based off of a debate we had awhile back on edge vs full.
post #3039 of 4483
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Rizzo, hArd2bear knows..., he's just having a little fun based off of a debate we had awhile back on edge vs full.

I was just wondering but I had to throw my 2cents in.......lol
post #3040 of 4483
Sorry for sparking that fun. I would not have full local dimming off during any other time. Set is awesome.
post #3041 of 4483
I have owned my 55 inch Sony XBR 950 for almost five months now. Most times when I am watching a movie in a 2.40 aspect ratio with the bars at the bottom and the top, I am experiencing a white color bleed in the middle top of the TV.

While this is subtle and it goes in and out, it detracts from the movie experience. Part of me thinks I should just deal with it, but for a $3,000 TV, I feel compelled to seek out if anyone else is having this issue.

I almost don't want to watch movies in this format anymore based on this issue.

I am using the standard calibration provided with the TV. I am not sure if the brightness setting is causing this or not. In general, I love the TV and would be thrilled to not have to look at this any further.

I have not contacted Sony but would be appreciative if anyone could explain if they have come across this to date with their TV.

Thank you in advance for your input.
post #3042 of 4483
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Originally Posted by SonyXBR9501 View Post

I have owned my 55 inch Sony XBR 950 for almost five months now. Most times when I am watching a movie in a 2.40 aspect ratio with the bars at the bottom and the top, I am experiencing a white color bleed in the middle top of the TV.

While this is subtle and it goes in and out, it detracts from the movie experience. Part of me thinks I should just deal with it, but for a $3,000 TV, I feel compelled to seek out if anyone else is having this issue.

I almost don't want to watch movies in this format anymore based on this issue.

I am using the standard calibration provided with the TV. I am not sure if the brightness setting is causing this or not. In general, I love the TV and would be thrilled to not have to look at this any further.

I have not contacted Sony but would be appreciative if anyone could explain if they have come across this to date with their TV.

Thank you in advance for your input.

Contact Sony. That should not be happening.
post #3043 of 4483
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post

I just replaced my 46XBR5 with a 55HX929 last week. The XBR4/5 series has a phenomenal PQ, so I wouldn't expect an enormous improvement in that respect. But I have been very pleased with my purchase so far. Because of the large bezel on the 46XBR4/5, the panel height and width are almost exactly the same on the 55HX929/950 but the larger screen size makes a big difference and results in a more cinematic experience in my eyes. I long contemplated going with the 55HX850, but having owned nothing but XBR's for the last 20 years I just couldn't pull the trigger on a downgrade.

Obviously, there are many added features and improvements in the HX950 (we're talking model year 2007 vs. 2012 after all), and you'll have to judge for yourself how much any of these factors weigh in your decision. But I got a great price on a new open-box set (well under $2K) and couldn't be happier!

chi_guy, thanks for the info, this helps.

How does the matte screen of the XBR4 compare to the gorilla glass, in terms of glare? Any comments on improvement of motion flow for sports?

Thanks!
post #3044 of 4483
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

full array w local dimming doesn't suffer from the same flashlighting, edge bleed and clouding as edge lit because it has local dimming. Not sure why you are trying to play dumb here. Why would anyone ever turn it off when watching tv or a movie? If someone's has clouding then, it is obviously a defective tv if local dimming is turned on.

So you're saying LED Dynamic Control off, edge lit and full backlit can look the same? So all full LED backlit does is 'hide' clouding and not prevent it?

It's off by default for gaming for obvious reasons so it's not as easy as "Why would you have it off?"
post #3045 of 4483
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

When you turn-off local dimming the set reverts to edgelit (the LCD panels need some source of lighting)

What? This makes zero sense
post #3046 of 4483
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Rizzo, hArd2bear knows..., he's just having a little fun based off of a debate we had awhile back on edge vs full.

I enjoy our little discussions wink.gif
post #3047 of 4483
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I was just wondering but I had to throw my 2cents in.......lol

I didn't see one bit of sense :P
post #3048 of 4483
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Originally Posted by SonyXBR9501 View Post

I have owned my 55 inch Sony XBR 950 for almost five months now. Most times when I am watching a movie in a 2.40 aspect ratio with the bars at the bottom and the top, I am experiencing a white color bleed in the middle top of the TV.

While this is subtle and it goes in and out, it detracts from the movie experience. Part of me thinks I should just deal with it, but for a $3,000 TV, I feel compelled to seek out if anyone else is having this issue.

I almost don't want to watch movies in this format anymore based on this issue.

I am using the standard calibration provided with the TV. I am not sure if the brightness setting is causing this or not. In general, I love the TV and would be thrilled to not have to look at this any further.

I have not contacted Sony but would be appreciative if anyone could explain if they have come across this to date with their TV.

Thank you in advance for your input.
I watch blu-rays with the black bars at top and bottom and don't experience that. Contact Sony as cmay recommended
post #3049 of 4483
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

What? This makes zero sense

Exactly what lighting source do you think light the LCD panel it has LED as it source of light so if you turn off the full array backlite you would have a black screen ??
post #3050 of 4483
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

When you turn-off local dimming the set reverts to edgelit (the LCD panels need some source of lighting)

Reverts to edge lit?

Not really.
post #3051 of 4483
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Exactly what lighting source do you think light the LCD panel it has LED as it source of light so if you turn off the full array backlite you would have a black screen ??

Turning off local dimming does exactly what it says: it prevents independent dimming of individual zones, making all the LEDs have the same intensity. It does not turn off the LEDs, rather it keeps them on.
post #3052 of 4483
The only time I see flashlighting is in the Home menu system. You can tell that the backlighting changes. As soon as you go to anything else, goes back to normal.
post #3053 of 4483
Hi Jeels....I definitely preferred the matte screen on my 52XBR4, but I have to say that the picture on my 65" is outstanding and worth putting up with the glare that I get in my room (which is all windows!). This set is worth every penny, but you, like me, have no choice but to go with the XBR950, as you cannot go down from the XBR4 (everything else would be disappointing!).
post #3054 of 4483
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

Reverts to edge lit?

Not really.

that was info passed off to me by Sony svc rep.
post #3055 of 4483
head2bear is pissed off that he has a 850 and not a 929/950...its ok little buddy, 850 is still a nice set.
post #3056 of 4483
head2bear is pissed off that he has a 850 and not a 929/950...its ok little buddy, 850 is still a nice set.
post #3057 of 4483
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Originally Posted by hellotv View Post

head2bear is pissed off that he has a 850 and not a 929/950...its ok little buddy, 850 is still a nice set.

Yes, i am crying inside. Less haloing and saved myself $1000+.

Crying i tell you wink.gif
post #3058 of 4483
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Originally Posted by jeels View Post

chi_guy, thanks for the info, this helps.

How does the matte screen of the XBR4 compare to the gorilla glass, in terms of glare? Any comments on improvement of motion flow for sports?

Thanks!

The glare issue is highly dependent on your viewing environment. The XBR4/5's matte screen is definitely more forgiving of ambient lighting, but in the limited time I have had with my new HX929 I have not noticed any distracting glare--and this is in a living room with plenty of lighting sources. On the other hand, I find the gorilla glass and the rest of the monolithic design stylistically stunning in a minimalist sense. For that reason, I prefer the appearance of the HX929 to that of its successor, the HX950, with the latter's obtrusive silver stand. When my set is off it disappears into my entertainment center; and when it's on all you see is the screen (unless you're one of those fanboys who likes to keep the Sony logo illuminated). Okay, I admit it--I am one of those fanboys.

I haven't had enough viewing time to judge the improvement in motion handling; but I am expecting it to be better, going from a native refresh rate of 60hz to 240hz. However, I seldom had any issues on this score with my XBR5 except during some fast-moving, close-up sports broadcasting. But then, I don't recall ever being so troubled as to bother turning on the "Motionflow" processing.
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Originally Posted by Rich0449 View Post

Hi Jeels....I definitely preferred the matte screen on my 52XBR4, but I have to say that the picture on my 65" is outstanding and worth putting up with the glare that I get in my room (which is all windows!). This set is worth every penny, but you, like me, have no choice but to go with the XBR950, as you cannot go down from the XBR4 (everything else would be disappointing!).

Indeed, the XBR4/5's "Bravia Engine Pro" video processor spoils you for any lesser set. Still, it should be noted that the HX850 and 2011's HX729 share the same X-Reality Pro processor as the HX929/950.
post #3059 of 4483
Hey guys, I currently own an HX850 but I'm in the market for a second tv and the 950 is on the list. A couple of days ago I stepped in to the Sony store to audition the 950. The salesperson didn't have any blu-rays to test it with so I was stuck playing movie trailers on youtube rolleyes.gif (I guess judging PQ was out of the question). I had them turn down the showroom lighting so it was dim. Here's the thing, while watching I kept noticing the "zones" light up various sections of the black bars which at times got pretty annoying and distracting. I played with the settings as much as I could, stood at the center off the screen, had the backlight set to a low setting (3) and made sure local dimming was on. I normally watch movies in the dark and the only complaint that I have with the 850 is while watching widescreen movies the bars not being pitch black at times (while it fluctuates depending on the brightness of the picture being displayed). I'm kinda really OCD when it comes to this sorta thing and I'm definitely not going to judge the tv based off youtube videos. I've done my research and I know to expect some blooming but I'm just wondering if this was normal or not. How does the 950 fair when it comes to keeping the black bars..well..black.smile.gif
post #3060 of 4483
i'm trying to talk my girlfriend into buying a darbee with me after reading some good things about it, however most of those were from guys using projectors. were on a tight budget after buying a 950 and she keeps saying why dont we turn on some of the processing options that i have off. i told her they dont work the same as the darbee and those settings should stay off. anyway i'm still new to a lot of this tech. so how should i explain to her that the processing on the darbee is good but on the 950 not so much..
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