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post #3511 of 4483
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 

Noise filter just blurs and removes fine detail from the image.

If you want a crisper image, noise filter or any noise reduction isn't the answer.

On my xbr8 i use Noise Reduction Low on non blu-ray sources (all other extra stuff is turned off). btw Sony Noise Reduction has an excellent reputation.
post #3512 of 4483
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Originally Posted by Fast GTO View Post

No other setting has sharpened the image. Also, I disagree a little on reality creation removing detail. I've stared at this screen turning it on and off and IMO you get a little more detail with it on a low setting because with it off the image smooths itself out too much.

You should try it.

The major downside has been artifacts which I also hate.

Based on owning the ES8000 and 950 the ES8000 has sharper images but the 950 has better color, uniformity, and blacks. You are sacrificing image sharpness though. Even my wife noticed and she doesn't care about TV's. She prefers the Es8000 picture but I can't stand the flashlighting and clouding.

I am also noticing judder with the 950 that I didn't notice on the ES8000.

With that said I can see why people claim the 950 is better. It produces a more natural picture when it comes to color as well as blacks.


I think the industry is in transition right now because regardless of what you spend you are getting a TV that has issues. edge lit v. back lit v. plasma all with different and major issues depending on what bothers you.

I'm sorry but it does remove fine detail from the picture. It may be very clever but it is still processing. It blurs over picture noise to clean up the image but in doing so removes fine detail. Especially any intentionally added grain image the source. Then the resolution/detail enhancer artificially adds detail and masks yet more detail in the source.
post #3513 of 4483
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Originally Posted by 8mile13 View Post

On my xbr8 i use Noise Reduction Low on non blu-ray sources (all other extra stuff is turned off). btw Sony Noise Reduction has an excellent reputation.

That maybe so but it is designed to blur over picture noise and in doing so masks fine detail.

It's far from perfect.
post #3514 of 4483
I came from an ES8000 to a XBR950, and I haven't noticed any loss of detail or sharpness. But I keep sharpness at or near 0 on every TV I own, and I keep most processing options off as well. Maybe the ES8000 had better artificial processing filters?

I prefer a realistic image, so I tend to not care much about processing unless it's for a standard definition source...which I rarely see anymore these days.
post #3515 of 4483
I didn't have any of the processing options turned on with the ES8000.
post #3516 of 4483
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

I came from an ES8000 to a XBR950, and I haven't noticed any loss of detail or sharpness. But I keep sharpness at or near 0 on every TV I own, and I keep most processing options off as well. Maybe the ES8000 had better artificial processing filters?

I prefer a realistic image, so I tend to not care much about processing unless it's for a standard definition source...which I rarely see anymore these days.

I have not noticed any difference in sharpness either between my 65HX950 and 65ES8000. I did keep sharpness way down on the ES8000 per many of the owners posted settings in that thread.
post #3517 of 4483
Help please:

I really want to have my tv displayed higher .. it seems so much smaller on that 20" ikea stand than the 55" plasma I replaced this unit with on the same stand.
I can't mount it to a wall (Renting home) can someone please advise what stand I can buy where i can mount it and at the same time, don't have to bolt it to the wall?
I almost ordered this one, when I noticed that the brackets seem so different than the recommended wall mount brackets ..

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RQ9TVI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Please advise.. the link shows the kind of stand I am looking for, I just don't see any indicators that it will work with my tv frown.gif

Oh, and why are they already removing it on the sony.com website? Are they getting rid of this model already?
post #3518 of 4483
Ju
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

Good to know, I still need to order a couple pairs.
st bought

Just purchased 2 pair of the PS3 glasses for $23 each brand new in the box frm Amazin.
post #3519 of 4483
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Originally Posted by jake608 View Post

Ju
st bought

Just purchased 2 pair of the PS3 glasses for $23 each brand new in the box frm Amazin.

Thanks for the heads up. I ordered 3 pairs the other day for $27.xx, so I just had them credit me the difference for the new price of 22.28. I was then able to convince my wife that we need to go ahead and order two additional pairs cool.gif

I mean, what if my daughter has a couple friends over, right?


I'm still waiting to hear from the shipping company Amazon uses for delivery. The suspense is killing me.
post #3520 of 4483
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Originally Posted by Explorer77 View Post

Help please:

I really want to have my tv displayed higher .. it seems so much smaller on that 20" ikea stand than the 55" plasma I replaced this unit with on the same stand.
I can't mount it to a wall (Renting home) can someone please advise what stand I can buy where i can mount it and at the same time, don't have to bolt it to the wall?
I almost ordered this one, when I noticed that the brackets seem so different than the recommended wall mount brackets ..

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RQ9TVI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Please advise.. the link shows the kind of stand I am looking for, I just don't see any indicators that it will work with my tv frown.gif

Oh, and why are they already removing it on the sony.com website? Are they getting rid of this model already?

If your going to mount this panel higher than normal you must make sure to tilt it downward so as not to be effected by off axis lose of image ( vertical axis is worse than side to side axis degradation )
Production of the 950 series is stopped, when the supply runs out it will be farewell to full array Sony LED's
Edited by IMRIZZO - 4/27/13 at 6:15am
post #3521 of 4483
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Production of the 950 series is stopped, when the supply runs out it will be farewell to full array Sony LED's

post #3522 of 4483
Hi
I JUST got demo 65 hx950 from best buy in Boston .
Supervisor gave good deal with package 5 year warranty + sales tax it cost me $3500 no glasses.
All tough it might be used 2500 hours since October but I think with 5 year warranty I will be fine.
So what you think?
Edited by rfiu7955 - 4/27/13 at 1:51pm
post #3523 of 4483
There is banding with cinema watching soccer.
than I used sports and there is minor banding you have to really try to see it and does not bother me.
Before this I had Samsung PN64E8000, HX950 is the winner.
Picture and collars on hx950 seams much much real.
Edited by rfiu7955 - 4/27/13 at 2:05pm
post #3524 of 4483
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Originally Posted by rfiu7955 View Post

There is banding with cinema watching soccer.
than I used sports and there is minor banding you have to really try to see it and does not bother me.
Before this I had Samsung PN64E8000, HX950 is the winner.
Picture and collars on hx950 seams much much real.

try using custom mode
post #3525 of 4483
I just took delivery of my 65" HX950 and finished watching Game of Thrones and all I can say is WOW!. I am coming from an XBR800 that has served me well and actually still working. In any case it was time for an upgrade and am very happy I followed this thread and picked this TV. It was definitely worth the wait. Hopefully this will last me just as long as my previous set.

Before anyone asks, I don't notice any banding or DSE but I am not looking for it either. I am simply watching different shows / movies. As long as it looks good for me for the stuff that I watch then I am happy.

Sent from my SCH-I815 using Tapatalk HD
post #3526 of 4483
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Originally Posted by cbb77 View Post

I just took delivery of my 65" HX950 and finished watching Game of Thrones and all I can say is WOW!. I am coming from an XBR800 that has served me well and actually still working. In any case it was time for an upgrade and am very happy I followed this thread and picked this TV. It was definitely worth the wait. Hopefully this will last me just as long as my previous set.

Before anyone asks, I don't notice any banding or DSE but I am not looking for it either. I am simply watching different shows / movies. As long as it looks good for me for the stuff that I watch then I am happy.

Sent from my SCH-I815 using Tapatalk HD

Enjoy your new toy, welcome to the club.
post #3527 of 4483
Just a heads up to new owners. Sony has quit making the active 3d glasses and is now going to passive. I just ordered 5 pair yesterday from ABT as they always give me great service and no tax. The TI750 glasses are pretty much gone and the BR250 glasses are becoming harder to find. Which means pricing on these glasses will go up when a shortage on them nears. Otherwise, you have the Playstation glasses which feel very cheap.

Wanted to post this since Sony is being their typical shady self and likely not telling others about this and since 3D is one of the main benefits over the 920 and we were not at least given one pair of glasses, this is a shame.

Evidently Sony is further cheapening the experience with passive 3D tech now on their useless 4k sets. I'm happy I bought in at the end of 1080p tv tech because I simply can't see the difference or value in 2160p viewing. Especially with the limitations of 30fps at high res, no content on TV, or any movies for that matter. Seems like they are going gungho over this like they did with 3D, but at least I could pick up 3D product. Be curious to see where things go.
post #3528 of 4483
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Originally Posted by BarrettF77 View Post

Just a heads up to new owners. Sony has quit making the active 3d glasses and is now going to passive. I just ordered 5 pair yesterday from ABT as they always give me great service and no tax. The TI750 glasses are pretty much gone and the BR250 glasses are becoming harder to find. Which means pricing on these glasses will go up when a shortage on them nears. Otherwise, you have the Playstation glasses which feel very cheap.

Wanted to post this since Sony is being their typical shady self and likely not telling others about this and since 3D is one of the main benefits over the 920 and we were not at least given one pair of glasses, this is a shame.

Evidently Sony is further cheapening the experience with passive 3D tech now on their useless 4k sets. I'm happy I bought in at the end of 1080p tv tech because I simply can't see the difference or value in 2160p viewing. Especially with the limitations of 30fps at high res, no content on TV, or any movies for that matter. Seems like they are going gungho over this like they did with 3D, but at least I could pick up 3D product. Be curious to see where things go.

How is going passive on a 4K set cheapening the 3D experience? Half the resolution on a 4K set is still greater than our 1080p active 3D. If anything, it should be better since you will be getting the advantages of passive 3D without the loss of resolution that you get with passive on a 1080P set.

Also.... Sony's w900 is still an active set, so there will be Sony active 3D glasses available for at least that TVs lifecycle. The 750s and 250s are terrible glasses anyways and who wants to have to go through the hassle of ordering the polarizing filters anyways. New owners should just go with the less expensive PS3 glasses. Who cares if they feel cheap if they provide the best overall 3D experience due to having the polarizing filters already built in?
post #3529 of 4483
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

How is going passive on a 4K set cheapening the 3D experience? Half the resolution on a 4K set is still greater than our 1080p active 3D. If anything, it should be better since you will be getting the advantages of passive 3D without the loss of resolution that you get with passive on a 1080P set.

Also.... Sony's w900 is still an active set, so there will be Sony active 3D glasses available for at least that TVs lifecycle. The 750s and 250s are terrible glasses anyways and who wants to have to go through the hassle of ordering the polarizing filters anyways. New owners should just go with the less expensive PS3 glasses. Who cares if they feel cheap if they provide the best overall 3D experience due to having the polarizing filters already built in?

Sonystyle.com is still showing the 950 as AVAILABLE
post #3530 of 4483
New Active 3D Glasses model: TDG-BT500A
Passive 3D models: TDG-SV5P and TDG-500P.
post #3531 of 4483
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

How is going passive on a 4K set cheapening the 3D experience? Half the resolution on a 4K set is still greater than our 1080p active 3D. If anything, it should be better since you will be getting the advantages of passive 3D without the loss of resolution that you get with passive on a 1080P set.

I own a 4K TV (LG 84LM9600) and the 3D is beyond phenomenal! There is superb clarity, detail, brightness, resolution, and no crosstalk. And as you mentioned, a 4K set is getting greater than 1080p active 3D. As has been said, both by owners and reviewers on these new 4K TV's, 3D is truly epic on them.smile.gif
Edited by ohyeah32 - 4/29/13 at 1:07pm
post #3532 of 4483
I guess my eagle eyes just don't see it then. I think 4k is nice, but nowhere near worth the price and 3D performance to be negligible. I could spot every flaw on the XBR 950 and am obviously very picky. But at this price it's my right as is everyone else's. That said, the playstation glasses aren't my cup of tea and the 250s are better in how they feel. But the new 500 series 3d glasses are wonderful looking. Too bad they are only RF and no IR on them. I still think Sony is going to piss many people off with a shortage of IR glasses for their 3d tvs they have already sold. At least I got enough pairs to cover me till the tvs die and I buy from a diff manufacturer. I'd be Sony for life if their customer service didn't suck so bad. Arrogance and stupidity are two things I can't stand.
post #3533 of 4483
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Originally Posted by vaiofreak View Post

New Active 3D Glasses model: TDG-BT500A
Passive 3D models: TDG-SV5P and TDG-500P.

You can't use them with the 950 though. Just sayin.
post #3534 of 4483
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Sonystyle.com is still showing the 950 as AVAILABLE

Yeah but after the sale they have now disappeared from all BB stores in the NJ area, no demos, no stock, nada. I am still thinking of buying the 65HX950 from another local store. This will be to replace my Kuro in the bedroom. It will either be this a ZT60, or maybe even a Samsung 8500. Just wondering how many here still like their HX950's? Once these go, so does any LED sets that can truly compete with Plasmas like the ZT60......especially on a cost basis.
post #3535 of 4483
It was like bestbuy only had 1 set left in each warehouse, or Sony took them all back before the $3500 sale. I doubt it was that hot a seller. One of the quickest clearances I've ever seen.
post #3536 of 4483
Well, I had my first experience with 3D.

I purchased Hugo bluray. and I watched with Playstation 3D glasses.

What a mesmerizing experience!

Depth, colors, detail, zero flickering, or ghost images.......... I just could not get enough!!

Then I rented Hobbit 3D thorugh the Sony Entertainment Network and even though I did not experience any flickering or ghost images, it seems that the streaming compression took its toll in the detail dpt.....

Depth was not as immersive like the one I experienced watching Hugo.

Any thoughts? I wonder if anyone has tried Hobbit 3D on bluray.....


I understand that the trick with Playstation glasses is the embedded polarized filter, therefore, I do not understand why none of the other Sony glasses, even the brand new ones for the W900 are polarized..... ??
post #3537 of 4483
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Originally Posted by scottman View Post

It was like bestbuy only had 1 set left in each warehouse, or Sony took them all back before the $3500 sale. I doubt it was that hot a seller. One of the quickest clearances I've ever seen.

Perhaps they sent the rest back to Sony, because in my area there are no HX950's at BB.....even on display. It's funny, because this happened at the same time as the 4K models are starting to hit the stores. It's as if Sony wanted to erase all traces of the 950 in anticipation of the new sets. eek.gif
post #3538 of 4483
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Originally Posted by mariogelman View Post

Well, I had my first experience with 3D.

I purchased Hugo bluray. and I watched with Playstation 3D glasses.

What a mesmerizing experience!

Depth, colors, detail, zero flickering, or ghost images.......... I just could not get enough!!

Then I rented Hobbit 3D thorugh the Sony Entertainment Network and even though I did not experience any flickering or ghost images, it seems that the streaming compression took its toll in the detail dpt.....

Depth was not as immersive like the one I experienced watching Hugo.

Any thoughts? I wonder if anyone has tried Hobbit 3D on bluray.....


I understand that the trick with Playstation glasses is the embedded polarized filter, therefore, I do not understand why none of the other Sony glasses, even the brand new ones for the W900 are polarized..... ??

I'm surprised on your comments in regards to Hugo. It is a 3D torture test for any tv including the HX950. If you thought that was good, wait until you watch some of the top tier 3D presentations. The Hobbit on 3D blu was top notch.

Streaming 3D will not provide the same experience as 1080p/24 from bluray. Best streaming of 3D in my experience is with the VUDU service.
post #3539 of 4483
"I'm surprised on your comments in regards to Hugo. It is a 3D torture test for any tv including the HX950. If you thought that was good, wait until you watch some of the top tier 3D presentations. The Hobbit on 3D blu was top notch.

Streaming 3D will not provide the same experience as 1080p/24 from bluray. Best streaming of 3D in my experience is with the VUDU service."


Well, to be honest I was not expecting much from 3D when I purchased this set...... however, everything turned out to be a revelation smile.gif

Could It be that I am using different settings?


I am really picky, to the point that my wife felt harassed smile.gif by my continuous , do you see anything wrong? any ghost images, any artifacts? any flickering, are you feeling dizzy?

She said the image was just perfect.

By the way, the first thing that I did was updating the firmware.

Are you using the PlayStation glasses? I wonder was the deal with the polarized filters in this glasses. As far as I have read no other Sony glasses, even the Titanium are polarized..... I do not understand why.

Any idea if Samsung glasses are compatible?
Edited by mariogelman - 4/30/13 at 3:55pm
post #3540 of 4483
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Originally Posted by mariogelman View Post

Well, I had my first experience with 3D.

I purchased Hugo bluray. and I watched with Playstation 3D glasses.

What a mesmerizing experience!

Depth, colors, detail, zero flickering, or ghost images.......... I just could not get enough!!

Then I rented Hobbit 3D thorugh the Sony Entertainment Network and even though I did not experience any flickering or ghost images, it seems that the streaming compression took its toll in the detail dpt.....

Depth was not as immersive like the one I experienced watching Hugo.

Any thoughts? I wonder if anyone has tried Hobbit 3D on bluray.....


I understand that the trick with Playstation glasses is the embedded polarized filter, therefore, I do not understand why none of the other Sony glasses, even the brand new ones for the W900 are polarized..... ??

The Hugo disc was highly touted by Home Theater Mag for it's3D-ness they quote it as 3D reference mat.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/hugo
Edited by IMRIZZO - 4/30/13 at 6:35pm
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