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post #4201 of 4484
Yup, the illuminated logo is kind of a cool option I guess. But I leave mine off, as its definitely distracting.

How can you get fully immersed in a movie with the Sony logo glaring you in the face?
post #4202 of 4484
And you folks praising the 4k sets, do you really think you can see a difference at the average 10ft viewing distance? If so, I wish my vision were as good as yours!
post #4203 of 4484
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Originally Posted by beemarp View Post

Yup, the illuminated logo is kind of a cool option I guess. But I leave mine off, as its definitely distracting.

How can you get fully immersed in a movie with the Sony logo glaring you in the face?


The logo on my HX850 don't light up so I wouldn't know. I just think its a cool feature but that's just me.
post #4204 of 4484
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Originally Posted by gamingarena View Post

Blooming is non issue is not that bad at all as long as you are centered to the screen , banding is bigger issue is not that bad either compared to other sets Sharp or Samsung but if you are sensible to them it might bother you.

Overall its fantastic set and probably the best set you can still get your hands on, the pitch blacks that produces are just absolutely fantastic makes other sets look like 2nd grade TVs.
I had Samsung f8000 beside it and there is no comparison.

We all wish to find perfect no issue sets but looks like there are always some compromise to be made, depends what you want and what you can live with or ignore.

This is as bad or as good you will get with this sets i tried at least 7-8 they all have similar degree of banding.
Take note that the screen bellow is where the banding is most noticeable, in regular viewing its very hard to see it if at all usually in fast moving scenes with light colors mostly light blue like a sky etc.

IMG_6400_zpsa6ef2372.jpg


Oh, I like your lighting. Neon or LED?
post #4205 of 4484
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Originally Posted by CaptainVideoJW View Post

Oh, I like your lighting. Neon or LED?

There are rainbow LED i can change any color i want originally i had them behind my XBR8 and i will probably just put them on my HX950 too in square shape of the TV on the back too, Just waiting to be sure ill keep the TV.
the contrast they give its crazy and blacks looks even deeper if they can be on HX950 smile.gif
post #4206 of 4484
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

The only thing I wish my HX850 had that the HX950 has is the lit up Sony logo. Sucks Sony never added that feature on the HX850.

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Originally Posted by beemarp View Post

Yup, the illuminated logo is kind of a cool option I guess. But I leave mine off, as its definitely distracting.

How can you get fully immersed in a movie with the Sony logo glaring you in the face?

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Originally Posted by gamingarena View Post

There are rainbow LED i can change any color i want originally i had them behind my XBR8 and i will probably just put them on my HX950 too in square shape of the TV on the back too, Just waiting to be sure ill keep the TV.
the contrast they give its crazy and blacks looks even deeper if they can be on HX950 smile.gif

I agree that seeing the Sony logo illuminated is rather nice (my old 46XBR5 had it, as does my current living room 55HX929, but not my current bedroom 46HX729). However, I leave it off; just seeing it illuminate when the TV is powered on is sufficient for me.

Regarding backlighting, I most definitely prefer it to pitch darkness. But then, after A/V gear, lighting and art glass are two of my passions.

Here are some pictures of my wall-mounted 46HX729 with and without backlighting provided via Antec's Soundscience HDTV Bias Lighting LED strip:





And here are photos showing just some of the colors available on the LED strip light I have mounted behind my 55HX929. I had the center console of the wall unit redesigned by a cabinetmaker to accommodate a flat-screen TV and designed it with a light valence specifically to allow use of indirect LED backlighting. I first used a 10-foot LED rope light but have recently switched to PPA International's OLSHARGBPRO Omni Lighting System, which is remote controlled and allows for a large array of colors and programmed displays.











I can understand why some people prefer no ambient lighting at all in their TV-watching room, but I think the right backlighting heightens the experience and creates a pleasant ambiance. To me, the difference is like night and day.biggrin.gif
post #4207 of 4484
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post




And here are photos showing just some of the colors available on the LED strip light I have mounted behind my 55HX929. I had the center console of the wall unit redesigned by a cabinetmaker to accommodate a flat-screen TV and designed it with a light valence specifically to allow use of indirect LED backlighting. I first used a 10-foot LED rope light but have recently switched to PPA International's OLSHARGBPRO Omni Lighting System, which is remote controlled and allows for a large array of colors and programmed displays.











I can understand why some people prefer no ambient lighting at all in their TV-watching room, but I think the right backlighting heightens the experience and creates a pleasant ambiance. To me, the difference is like night and day.biggrin.gif

Any back lighting at all takes away from the experience, the opposite heightening it. Why do you think movie theaters are completely dark. Look at the section on the forum where people post photos of their home theater rooms. All the high end rooms where they paid a lot of money to do it right, the rooms showcase the screen only, no back lighting at all. Even the gear, amps, processors etc, they turn off the display lights. As nice as your cabinets look, lit up, to me it's very distracting. I'd always see what ever is lit up in the cabinet viying for my attention over the movie that's playing. Again, the movie theaters are completely black and the only thing one sees is the movie screen.
post #4208 of 4484
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Any back lighting at all takes away from the experience, the opposite heightening it. Why do you think movie theaters are completely dark. Look at the section on the forum where people post photos of their home theater rooms. All the high end rooms where they paid a lot of money to do it right, the rooms showcase the screen only, no back lighting at all. Even the gear, amps, processors etc, they turn off the display lights. As nice as your cabinets look, lit up, to me it's very distracting. I'd always see what ever is lit up in the cabinet viying for my attention over the movie that's playing. Again, the movie theaters are completely black and the only thing one sees is the movie screen.

Actually all the movie theaters have ambient lighting all around the walls, very rarely or i don't even remember when i saw a theater without any ambient lighting like pitch black.
post #4209 of 4484
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Any back lighting at all takes away from the experience, the opposite heightening it. Why do you think movie theaters are completely dark. Look at the section on the forum where people post photos of their home theater rooms. All the high end rooms where they paid a lot of money to do it right, the rooms showcase the screen only, no back lighting at all. Even the gear, amps, processors etc, they turn off the display lights. As nice as your cabinets look, lit up, to me it's very distracting. I'd always see what ever is lit up in the cabinet viying for my attention over the movie that's playing. Again, the movie theaters are completely black and the only thing one sees is the movie screen.

To each his own. Like I said, I can understand why some prefer a totally dark viewing environment, but I've experimented in my home with and without the ambient lighting and I much prefer to have it on. Not only does it enhance the experience, it also seems to be easier on the eyes than staring at a brightly lit screen for hours on end in a pitch black room.

And I can assure you that it's not distracting in the slightest to me or my wife. Whether I'm watching a movie, sports or TV programming, it's the screen that attracts my attention. Now strobe lights would be a different matter entirely.tongue.gif
Edited by chi_guy50 - 10/8/13 at 6:15am
post #4210 of 4484
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Originally Posted by mile13 View Post


Motionflow is a tricky creature. On a lot of digital content, the effect was nearly impossible for me to observe other than Clear was dimmer than Standard, and Clear Plus was dimmer than Clear. Impulse flickered terribly. And Smooth seemed close to Standard. However, on 24p film content, Smooth had that mild "Soap Opera" effect that I have strongly disliked on Samsung sets in Costco.EoRNcT

Clear is a mixture of fake frames (motion interpolation) and black frames (black frame insertion or scanning backlight) that is the reason why picture is dimmer.

btw when you watch a 1080p 24 frames per second blu-ray movie it is no longer 24fps when one of the Motionflow options is active since Motionflow adds 24 fake/black frames to the 24 original frames.

post #4211 of 4484
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post

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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Any back lighting at all takes away from the experience, the opposite heightening it. Why do you think movie theaters are completely dark. Look at the section on the forum where people post photos of their home theater rooms. All the high end rooms where they paid a lot of money to do it right, the rooms showcase the screen only, no back lighting at all. Even the gear, amps, processors etc, they turn off the display lights. As nice as your cabinets look, lit up, to me it's very distracting. I'd always see what ever is lit up in the cabinet viying for my attention over the movie that's playing. Again, the movie theaters are completely black and the only thing one sees is the movie screen.

To each his own. Like I said, I can understand why some prefer a totally dark viewing environment, but I've experimented in my home with and without the ambient lighting and I much prefer to have it on. Not only does it enhance the experience, it is also seems to be easier on the eyes than staring at a brightly lit screen for hours on end in a pitch black room.

And I can assure you that it's not distracting in the slightest to me or my wife. Whether I'm watching a movie, sports or TV programming, it's the screen that attracts my attention. Now strobe lights would be a different matter entirely.tongue.gif


Well said chi!
post #4212 of 4484
I have found that viewing in total (blackout) darkness leads to quick eye-fatigue and headaches. Talk of multicolored indirect lighting (behind the set colored LED's) extremely distracting especially when in a 'fade to different color' mode. My neighbor who has a large LED put a set of these obnoxious change color lites which he thought were the next best thing to Swiss cheese. Terrible, totally took away from picture viewing experience. No regular theaters are ambient-lite free, even custom viewing rooms emit minute ambient light. There are custom theater rooms that are nearly totally void of light so the picture great, intense .......but, for how long can you comfortably view in those conditions. May be it's just me, one one or two movies at the max before my eyes are affected. ?? Maybe it's just getting old ?
Edited by IMRIZZO - 10/7/13 at 11:44am
post #4213 of 4484
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post

To each his own. Like I said, I can understand why some prefer a totally dark viewing environment, but I've experimented in my home with and without the ambient lighting and I much prefer to have it on. Not only does it enhance the experience, it is also seems to be easier on the eyes than staring at a brightly lit screen for hours on end in a pitch black room.

And I can assure you that it's not distracting in the slightest to me or my wife. Whether I'm watching a movie, sports or TV programming, it's the screen that attracts my attention. Now strobe lights would be a different matter entirely.tongue.gif

I agree, to each his own. I'm simply pointing out that places like a professionally designed movie theater and hi-end home theaters go to great lengths to keep the room as dark as possible without having any distracting lights on the front viewing wall at all.
post #4214 of 4484
I apologize if this is not in the correct forum... please redirect if necessary.

Who else is experiencing an issue with youtube on our sony tv's and blu-rays ?
I can't seem to log in any longer or stream videos.

Thanks
JR
post #4215 of 4484
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Originally Posted by jrmtl View Post

I apologize if this is not in the correct forum... please redirect if necessary.

Who else is experiencing an issue with youtube on our sony tv's and blu-rays ?
I can't seem to log in any longer or stream videos.

Thanks
JR
Just streamed a video on the regular Youtube app on the hx950 just fine.
Trying out the new Youtube for TV app....also plays fine.
post #4216 of 4484
Ok thanks for reply..

I've seen on google forums that a lot of people are having issues.
are you able to log in also ?

JR
post #4217 of 4484
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Originally Posted by jrmtl View Post

Ok thanks for reply..

I've seen on google forums that a lot of people are having issues.
are you able to log in also ?

JR


The You Tube apps on my HX850 and on my S5100 Sony Blu ray player are working just fine as well. No issues.
post #4218 of 4484
To each his own.

I've read that if the light source is in front of you your eye it will be attracted to the brightest thing.

Personally, I have a row of up lights on the rear wall of my media room connected to an Insteon dimmer so I don't have to get up.

post #4219 of 4484
Bias lighting can be very beneficial when done right. There's a whole science to it and at least one really long thread somewhere on these forums. Some calibration discs even have a section to set up the correct brightness for bias lighting.

I don't agree with the multi-color lights, but even lighting with 6500k temperature can improve contrast and ease eye-strain in dark rooms.
post #4220 of 4484
"The human eye is attracted by light. What that means is that what you want the audience to focus on should be the brightest element on the screen. If you’re on camera, make sure you’re lit better than anything else. Make sure the background is not a light color. Or, if you insist on using white or another light color, be very careful to make sure you’re lit really well. Because you will be completing against the background for your audience’s attention."

http://www.themediamaestro.com/2011/01/our-eyes-are-attracted-to-light-and-movement/
post #4221 of 4484
There appears to have been a Firmware download, that has created problems with the 929 series, causing auto shutdowns and restarts ? I haven't experienced it, but many people on the 929 thread have been having problems. They have reported it to Sony who "alleges" to be aware and working on a 'fix' but have made no public announcement about it. Once again Sony's CS comes into question.
post #4222 of 4484
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Originally Posted by gamingarena View Post

Actually all the movie theaters have ambient lighting all around the walls, very rarely or i don't even remember when i saw a theater without any ambient lighting like pitch black.

That's only so they don't get sued if someone falls in the dark. That's why they have reflective tape or lighting on all the staircases. It's not because it's the right way to see a film. Same for the EXIT signs. In some theatres, those are incredibly distracting, even sometimes reflecting light onto the screen.
post #4223 of 4484
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

There appears to have been a Firmware download, that has created problems with the 929 series, causing auto shutdowns and restarts ? I haven't experienced it, but many people on the 929 thread have been having problems. They have reported it to Sony who "alleges" to be aware and working on a 'fix' but have made no public announcement about it. Once again Sony's CS comes into question.

I just checked and there's been no firmware download for my 929. As per my post in the 929 thread, the other night my set rebooted four times, but after powering the main switch off and on again, it stopped and all seems well in the world again. One thing I did notice for those of you who watch TV OTA and use the Rovi Guide: If the Rovi Guide isn't working, go into Preferences>Clock/Timer and reset the clock to the correct date and time. In fact, I wonder if there's any relationship between this and the reboots (even though they stopped after I powered down), sort of like a Y2K problem. The Date/Time must have gotten reset to the wrong setting after a prior firmware update and I never noticed.
post #4224 of 4484
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

There appears to have been a Firmware download, that has created problems with the 929 series, causing auto shutdowns and restarts ? I haven't experienced it, but many people on the 929 thread have been having problems. They have reported it to Sony who "alleges" to be aware and working on a 'fix' but have made no public announcement about it. Once again Sony's CS comes into question.

It was not a firmware download but rather, from all appearances, a Sony server glitch. And it affected both the HX729 and HX929 sets at a minimum.

You're right however that Sony is remiss in not publishing a notice of what was happening. Some owners resorted to a factory reset assuming there was an issue with their TV; they could have been spared a lot of trouble if Sony had bothered to release a notice (or if the owners had checked these threads first, as I did).
post #4225 of 4484
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post

It was not a firmware download but rather, from all appearances, a Sony server glitch. And it affected both the HX729 and HX929 sets at a minimum.

You're right however that Sony is remiss in not publishing a notice of what was happening. Some owners resorted to a factory reset assuming there was an issue with their TV; they could have been spared a lot of trouble if Sony had bothered to release a notice (or if the owners had checked these threads first, as I did).

Notices were in fact eventually posted on the Sony support pages:

Notice for certain Sony BRAVIA® LCD TVs: Repeated Reboot and Temporarily Disabled Internet Services

Notice for certain Sony Blu-ray & DVD Players, Home Theater Systems, and A/V Receivers: Temporarily Disabled Internet Services
post #4226 of 4484
WOW ! Sony stepped to the plate and admitted fault on something, maybe there's still hope for Sony to regain their consumer confidence.
post #4227 of 4484
Hey Rizz thanks for posting the settings you use on your HX950 over on the Blu ray.com forums. I used them on my HX850 and they look great. I thought I would try them out being that the HX950 and 850 are pretty similar except for the Full Array LED feature. At first I thought my tv looked to dark but I have gotton used to it and the colors look great as I said. The only difference from your settings and mine are I left Motionflow on and Smooth Gradation along with Black Corrector are left on as well. I like those features. Anyway big thumbs up to you on the settings. Were did you come up with those if I may ask?
post #4228 of 4484
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

Hey Rizz thanks for posting the settings you use on your HX950 over on the Blu ray.com forums. I used them on my HX850 and they look great. I thought I would try them out being that the HX950 and 850 are pretty similar except for the Full Array LED feature. At first I thought my tv looked to dark but I have gotton used to it and the colors look great as I said. The only difference from your settings and mine are I left Motionflow on and Smooth Gradation along with Black Corrector are left on as well. I like those features. Anyway big thumbs up to you on the settings. Were did you come up with those if I may ask?

They were complied using the physical help of a Calabrator ( David Schenk, without accessing internal menus/settings) starting with basic setting of HTM and some minor tweaking. As these set are all internally the same, but different in their set up capabilities (if you can understand that), they require minor tweaking for individual display panels and personal preferences. I don't care for all the added Auto-settings.
post #4229 of 4484
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

Hey Rizz thanks for posting the settings you use on your HX950 over on the Blu ray.com forums. I used them on my HX850 and they look great. I thought I would try them out being that the HX950 and 850 are pretty similar except for the Full Array LED feature. At first I thought my tv looked to dark but I have gotton used to it and the colors look great as I said. The only difference from your settings and mine are I left Motionflow on and Smooth Gradation along with Black Corrector are left on as well. I like those features. Anyway big thumbs up to you on the settings. Were did you come up with those if I may ask?

They were complied using the physical help of a Calabrator ( David Schenk, without accessing internal menus/settings) starting with basic setting of HTM and some minor tweaking. As these set are all internally the same, but different in their set up capabilities (if you can understand that), they require minor tweaking for individual display panels and personal preferences. I don't care for all the added Auto-settings.


Ok cool Rizz thanks for letting me know all of that and yes I understand the setup capabilities thing. I am enjoying your posted settings more and more everyday so once again thanks for posting them.


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post #4230 of 4484
I have a 55" and have noticed that the main menu text appears to be rendered in a lower resolution than I would have expected. PS3 menu text is nice and sharp at 1080p and so is text from my ATV3.

Is it normal for this set's menus to appear as though they've been upscaled from SD or 720p?

Is there a way to adjust it so it looks sharp?
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