Originally Posted by M Code
The most reliable
AVR brand built today is Yamaha...
The primary reason is that they totally control the design, parts procurement, production and validation for their AVRs. They have their own factories in Malaysia, China and Japan.
Just my $0.02...
That may be but my Yammy 867 could not hold it's own at the same level as the Pio Elite VSX23-TXH I wanted to replace at similar volumes. Yamaha support had no answers for this so I returned it. I know the Pio Elite has a far better amp section but I needed a 3D AVR. So got the Onkyo 809. That thing had all the balls the Pio did. I had...an issue...and now have an Onkyo 818. So I have had the Audyssey, YPAO, and MCACC and can say they are all different and all work to an extent. For sheer grunt and power the Yamaha was not in the same class, and spare the comments because I know what class it is in. I still have my Pio if the OP wants to PM me and I might make him a deal. That thing is a brute but it has the Pioneer ignored sometimes power on by remote problem. Other than that it works fine so folks saying Pioneer is all that need to pay attention and read up. That is an Elite AVR that Pioneer simply brushed off countless owner complaints. Also, no user FW update, how lame.
Now to the forum complaints. Of course you will have a lot of complaints about Onkyos. They sell more AVRs than anyone else. I do not have access to the numbers, and I do not want to punk on any manufacturers, but numbers is what it is about. With those numbers come more issues because folks do not log in and say "Hey, just thought I would post how great the AVR is working".
Now if I was ranking what I have seen, here we go:
Yamaha: very slick UI and remote along with user friendly get it done stuff. Very good. YPAO falls into last place in my book though.
Pioneer: my 23-TXH is a bit older but an Elite unit. Weak UI and you need to know what you are doing. MCACC is very powerfull stuff especially if you decide to go with a PC input to fool with it. I did not but see where it can be very helpful. No user FW update sucks but this may have changed with newer units. Very nice amp and no fans needed, just cranks away. MCACC finds it's way second in my book because I tried Audyssey.
Onkyo: they sell a ton of these things. The 809 and 818 are pretty much identical except for that latest XT32 and some missing connections on the back. So yes, you will see more comments about failure with Onkyo because "they sell a ton of these things". Yes, they both have two fans mounted inside, and the 809 ran hotter/used more electricity in standby than the 818, but now that has been solved. Still has the fans but the Onkyo is a brute. Audyssey is now my favorite.
Too bad the Pio could not do 3D or HDMI passthrough in standby which was my major complaint. BTW, I caught so much crap from old school folks on the Pio thread about this I gave up there. Really, no HDMI passthrough in standby? So now I am sure all units have this today but the knuckle draggers back there told me I was not a true video/audiophile. Some folks just want to watch the news before work without waking everyone up. To each his own, but as a final caveat, HDMI1.3 was a lot less problematic than 1.4. Of course we are all suffering from the BS copyright protection crap that is HDMI and sold to you as better but really just there because you may be a thief.