Originally Posted by popalock
Keep in mind that Stereo Integerty is closely intertwined with Sundown Audio and Obsidian Audio. If I understand correctly, these HT subs are a joint venture of the sorts. I forget if SI the comany is a JV or just these HT subs. Do you recall beast?
Regardless, both are established brands in the Car Audio scene. Anything is possible I suppose, but maybe knowing this product is leveraged between a few different stake holders may give you piece of mind? Oh, and the fact that they basically sold their entire stock of 18D2's shortly after they started shipping...
As beast stated, they weren't prepared for such
a positive response from the HT community... I'd say with confidence that they've made moves to ensure they don't run into this issue in the future. *Cough*40ft connex
Me no likey...
Would like it to read..."the whole system from 4hz up..."
Originally Posted by beastaudio
If you look closely, they even source some sundown parts on the HT's
Their MKIII is actually part of SI as well but is not in production right now. I think Nick is plenty busy right now.
Well assuming I have had the EXACT same drop-off, at the exact same spot, and others have seen it using omnimic as well, I think the system is the last thing I need to check. I mean, my room gain, I am DEAD flat to about 11-12hz and then it drops hard. I have stated this before, but it is either my BD player (Denon 1611UD) or my cables (Not a chance) since others have measured down into the single digits with the exact same setup. Other considerations is a leaky room, or need to send my mic off to Dayton to be calibrated
With that said, I am also still in a concrete bunker, and my woofers are still moving at 4-5hz so, take that for what its worth
Popa and Beast - You guys have issues.
I thought I was a bass head until I was shown Popalock's plans for his HT room. (On a side note, if you guys ever want to experience 150 dB broad-band just stop by the shop and I'll sit you inside the Obsidian Audio CRX with two of our Obsidian Audio 18" subs powered by 3,000 watts, haha - it meters at a 149.9 legal from 20 Hz to 90 Hz).
Originally Posted by sundownz
That is a correct assessment -- Nick and I are working together on the SI HT project; we are confident in the time-line on the 2nd production run +/- any usual variances in customs clearance (usually a week or so variation).
The response was certainly much higher than expected, especially on 18s -- with some actual demand data on-hand it will be easier to keep them in stock in the future; at least by the 3rd production cycle (data is choppy due to the rapid sell-out). We had essentially no data on sales until the time at which they arrived; at which point they all left our facility almost immediately leaving no time to react on production.
The SI HT line is here to stay -- it is not a fly-by-night or a basement operation by any means
Thanks for the comments. Nick is primarily the face of SI in both car audio and HT terms but he and I do a lot of work together behind the scenes and the SI HT project is very much so a cooperation between us; car audio under SI is primarily Nick.
I think we've proved ourselves. Period. No "vaporware."
The only part that we sourced from Sundown was the spacer ring. It boiled down to tooling our own spacer ring with (or without) or log on it that was the exact same dimension as the Sundown spacer ring and adding another $15 to each woofer OR simply using an existing spacer ring from a close friend with no additional cost to you (the customer). We opted to keep things less expensive for you guys. The spacer ring, cone body, and rubber gasket, are the only items the two companies share.
On a quick side-note (only because it was mentioned in the above quote) the BM mkIII/mkIV suboofer was/is a huge hit. They sell for more used than they sold for new. Totally unique, totally not-what-you-think-the-public-wants product. But they ended up selling faster than we could get them in stock. We are now working on an improved mkIV version with a plethora of upgrades.
As Jake has pointed out above the HT line is here to stay. We are very proud of every aspect of the design and the performance. It is not going anywhere.