Stereo Integrity's new HT Subwoofer - Page 23

Originally Posted by Aaron Smith 

Plenty of misinformation here.
First thing to note is the CHT sub compared in that graph is the VS18.1; which is a single 18" in a vented cabinet, and not the dual 18" sealed that SeaNile is getting a pair of.
Second thing to note is the CHT sub is not even compared against the Stereo Integrity 18" that this thread is about; it's the Dayton 18" instead (which admittedly is extremely close).
Third thing (and most important as far as skewing of data) is that graph shown is of the 'basic response'; not max output. I'm not smart enough to say exactly what 'basic response' is, but I can tell you that a single SI 18 also 'destroys' a DTS-10
s basic response of 72-90 dB from 10-50 Hz as well.
I am not a CHT fanboy at all (never owned anything they make), but if that was meant to be any kind of 'comparison', the layman taking a glance at that post might thing the CHT is a POS. The CHT products are pretty dang nice for the guy that doesn't want to make his own stuff but wants alot of the performance that DIY can offer.
On another not dlbeck, how were you able to get that comparison graph posted? I've tried to post a few Data-Bass comparisons and can't figure out how to link the picture. Printscreen?

Originally Posted by brian6751 

My post wasnt the one with the misinformation
I didnt notice at first that it was just a response chart. I brushed off the fact that it was the Dayton since the Dayton and the SI measure similar. the basic response chart isn't about output. And you are correct, the vs is the vented design.

Originally Posted by Aaron Smith 

I realize you didn't make the original statement (probably should have quoted dlbeck I suppose).
I quoted your post as it was the one that stated "the Dayton kills the CHT." It looked to me that there was the distinct probability that many would casually glance at that and think it was an output comparison...which is what you initially did, right?
"Kills the CHT" in what? What exactly is 'basic response'?
As I pointed out, a single sealed 18" SI or Dayton also 'kills' a DTS-10 in basic response. I admit I'm not exactly sure how basic response is defined, but I sure the hell am curious now after this thread!
My main goal here is to ease SeaNile's mind as it appears to me by the tone of his posts after dlbeck's that he might think he is buying a turd (or two); which isn't the case.

Originally Posted by gpmbc 

That graph seems off comparing the Dayton and the cht. A ulf monster it is not but there's no way it should be almost 20db lower in output.

Originally Posted by gpmbc 

Regarding excursion, from where the holes are to screw in the driver to the top of the surround is 1”. Does the xmax begin from where the cone rests to the top of the surround or beyond? Trying to account for how close the driver could be to a boundary without hitting it during potential high excursion.

Originally Posted by Archaea 

In a large 48' long room like seaniles room he will have very little room gain and he can likely count on buying the additional pair right now. Luke is right, he should probably be looking at a large ported sub/s for that big a room.

Originally Posted by brian6751 

Lmao! I like the under the tree shot.
Is that a "commence humping" position in the next one? Lololol

Originally Posted by MKtheater 

Not again.

Originally Posted by beastaudio 

Haha it is more like a WTH was I thinking getting 8 of these??!?! I like to think back once again of the good holiday quote:
"it's not going in our yard Russ! It is going in our Living Room!!!!"

I know the will all fit well downstairs, but dayum they are a sight to behold.

Originally Posted by Aaron Smith 


Third thing (and most important as far as skewing of data) is that graph shown is of the 'basic response'; not max output. I'm not smart enough to say exactly what 'basic response' as tested by Data-Bass is, but I can tell you that a single sealed SI 18 also 'destroys' a DTS-10's basic response of 72-90 dB from 10-50 Hz as well.

Originally Posted by Aaron Smith 

On another note dlbeck, how were you able to get that comparison graph posted? I've tried to post a few Data-Bass comparisons and can't figure out how to link the picture. Printscreen?

Originally Posted by Aaron Smith 

I don't think it's quite like that. If I'm not mistaken, Gorilla83's room has a total length of somewhere around 42' (his HT area is open to the rest of the basement) and he was pretty impressed when he tested 4 of his Daytons. Much of the bass impact has to do with how close you sit to the subs as well. There has been a huge trend to overkilling everything lately with the proliferation of the Dayton and SI drivers, but 4 sealed 18's is still a pretty respectable system. FWIW, the CHT driver is from Eminence and has 19 mm xmax and an Fs of 19.4 Hz...it's not too different than the SI or Dayton.

Originally Posted by Gorilla83 

Guys I've measured John's (Seanile) room recently and it actually does have a fair amount of gain. I believe his length is closer to 36' or so and he sits about 18' from the subs. Heck my room is also 44' long and I get a lot of reinforcement below 20hz.
He is still taking a huge step up from the 12" Captivator versions. At 800 a pop I'm not aware of a better value outside of DIY for twin capable 18s?
Sorry I didn't mean to sidetrack further but there was so much chatter I had to clarify things.

Originally Posted by SeaNile 

By April 13th I'll either be happy with the 2 subs or will have 4. I'm not too worried about things, whatever I do will be a huge improvement from what I have now.

Originally Posted by zheka 

That's a great attitude. I am fairly certain you will be pleased with the toys. Do you have any means to EQ other than audyssey?

Originally Posted by popalock 

Does that $800 for the CHT include shipping?
Tell SeaNile that I will replicate your build (4 dual opposed cabs), but load the cabinets up with the SI's. All for the low low price of $4,000 delivered to his doorstep on April 13th!
What a deal!!! lol

Originally Posted by zheka 

That's a great attitude. I am fairly certain you will be pleased with the toys. Do you have any means to EQ other than audyssey?

Originally Posted by SeaNile 

I'm pretty fortunate that Gorilla83 lives about 5 minutes from my house and has been kind enough to help me out with my system. Right now my system is sounding the best ever from him tweaking a few things. Once these CHT's arrive I'll get them inside and hooked up for a while before Andrew comes over. That way they are warmed up and have begun their breaking in period.
I'm thinking by this time next week I'll have a good idea of what my system can do. That also gives R&L/CHT a full week to get them shipped to me.

Originally Posted by wth718 

Hey all,
I just wanted to give you a heads up about the person who made the cab for my custom 18" Mag V2 and will be making another for my 18 D2. He's located in the Hampton, VA area.
Below are some examples of his work. Last link is to a thread mistakenly labelled as the SI HT. That is, in fact, the custom Mag that Nick created for me.
Price included the birch cab, including roundovers, customer grill, speakon connector, feet, and Duratex finish. I of course had to provide the neo magnets, grill cloth, speakon connector, feet, and Duratex. Turned out great, IMO. Just an option for those who want the DIY performance/price, but have neither the skills nor tools to do it yourself.
You can reach him at joeybutts32@gmail.com for direct quotes.
Backyard Outdoor Speakers
Bathroom In-wall speakers
Bill Fitz-Maurice Tuba
Poker Table
Khanspire HT Towers
Dayton RS Center Channel
MarkK RS225/28A Surrounds
Overnight Sensations Bookshelves
Current Subwoofer builds
SI 18" HT Subwoofer

Originally Posted by Stereodude 

With an e-mail address like that, how can you not take him seriously?