Stereo Integrity's new HT Subwoofer - Page 30

Before I order these, did anyone buy too many drivers and are looking to sell 1-2 of them?

Since I only have the room for one dual opposed box right now, I'm wondering if I should keep my Denon 4311 for XT32 and SubEQ for an eventual dual, dual opposed setup off an EP4000...or use the Sherwood and Trinnov in the system with the possible need for an anti-mode again in the future. I have no idea how Trinnov handles low frequency correction, and if it is as poor as MCACC, anti-mode is needed. Selling the 4311 alone will probably pay for the drivers and box!!! I guarantee I'll need a 4K receiver within the next few years, so it makes sense. Decisions Decisions.

I love the DIY and passive box approach, as I could just pop out drivers and replace amps if any new advancements come along within a few years.

The exact reason all us addicts hang around here :0

Lays here in fetal position after reading this thread. Dude, that pic with your SI's, AE's, and waveguides is bad ass!!!

Wait till I get them all downstairs and take them all assembled along with two RE XXX18's, two JBL4648 dual 15" ported cabs AND the LS6's. That will be a life accomplishment to have all those things in one room for me.

Mktheater, you're chasing your tail on this one, at some point you just gotta say enough is enough. You don't need more output, you're happy with the sound quality you've got. You've already had eight 18's and like your current setup better. Stop and rest -- enjoy your current setup. Chase something else, cause there's nothing worth catching in this chute IMO.

-signed
the voice of reason...

I know and a few things have to happen for me to give this up, I do like this system, more than any other so far.

I'm sort of in the same boat., but talked myself down from the edge of the cliff. I have all the output I need, LOVE my current setup's sound quality, and ultimately don't really need another project. boom done - decision made. There are enough guys in KC building projects with these drivers (or the daytons) (carp, KCNitro07, luke kamp, and mrsmithers) that I can visit four different local households with this build and determine how envious I am at that point. If it's incredible, and I just can't shake off the feeling that I gotta have it - then I can buy at that point. A few hundred bucks is all I risk between group buy and not.

You should visit popalock after his setup is complete. The sixteen 18" driver ensemble he is putting together would be your litmus test.

I "kinda" have to agree with that too. I am purely doing this build out due to the fact that RE's take so much dang wattage and are so inefficient past say 50hz that they aren't doing what I want, unless I were to get another clone ($1,000) and two more RE's (~$1,500) to get where I would be happy. I am doing this build with about half the cost not considering the re-sale of the RE's and will most certainly come out on top from what I have with just a "weak" dual 18" setup. Lol. Otherwise if money were not an issue, I would have gone the other way. The fact that I listen to 60% music anyways, this still seems overkill, but with just the two RE's I couldn't enjoy big movie content without being worried that I was clipping the amp at 4,400 watts per sub which is just crazy. The RE's are PERFECT for someone considering an IB build though, I just don't have the capacity to do so. unless I bought a new house. haha. THEN that gets really expensive and I LOVE my location, and the fact that I can run 130dB's out of my bass and the neighbors wouldn't even hear it. Thus my theater's new name: The Bunker...

Enter Scott...the anti-reason.

Devils advocate here. I assume that 10-15 hz really isn't harmful you your hearing, correct? So if MK has even more headroom down there can't he run a bigger curve so that he's boosted from the upper single digits up into the teens and then when there is content that low he gets even more insane feel/shake/etc while at the same time not risking any damage to his hearing?

Now, I haven't experienced db's that high at frequencies that low so maybe that's not even desirable I don't know.

MK, how many of the SI 18's are you saying it would take to get you to 133 db's at 10hz?

Those frequencies do not harm your hearing but they can create immense pressure where it hurts your ears. Of course this does not happen often because only our best bass movies have them that high. 133 dBs is for my room because I know what I can do with my sub system now, 12 SI's would give me 6 dBs more output(winisd) at 10hz(pretty much everywhere) so that would do it and without going over x-max at any frequency.

He is at CES getting more grandiose ideas as we speak...

EDIT: Actually it is west coast time so he might be just getting up, wandering to the bathroom in a still drunken stupor...

Guys, how do these SI's sound compared to the daytons? Gorilla should know. I like the deeper sound of my 13's better than everything else I have owned.

The intense pressure that's "hurting your ears" is also harming your ears. Trust me.

James

"I like the deeper sound of my 13's better than everything else I have owned."

are those an underhung design?

Man, I hope they sound the same or at least REAL close. Hearing the Daytons in my room was extremely impressive, not just for output. The sound quality was every bit as good as the submersive so that's the gamble I'm taking by buying the SIs instead of the Daytons

Does anyone know if the 15 inch version of this is available yet? After some discussion with lilmike, it seems the 15 models out decently in the lilwrecker platform. Might make a good alternative to the CVX 15 and cheaper to boot. Still waiting on response though too if the t/s are spot on.

MK, I guess what I'm missing is why you need to upgrade. If your already capable of well past reference at 10hz and turn down the subs when you're actually watching movies....plus you like the sound better than any system you've had before? I understand the upraditis, but most people aren't anywhere close to your system's capability. I like what someone wrote about whenever they feel that itch to upgrade--they just turn the subs up 10 db and the feeling goes away.

They did receive the 15's at the same time, and they should have plenty available.

I'm waiting to see if they make an 18" version of the new Ultimax models. When that happens, things will get interesting.

The beauty of the SI's are the low power required. 2 dual opposed 18" subs off an EP4000? Awesome.

Its the equivalent of 2 passive 18" SubM HPs+amp, for the price of one SubM HP. The value seeker in me cannot ignore this.

I'd be surprised if you aren't blown away. Having owned numerous SI subs in the past in my vehicle, they are well known for their SQ.

I am wiring four up tonight, and popping them on the EPX4000. Im going to temporarily use the RE18 boxes and just route the rear of the box out to make it a baffle. Easy enough for a quick sub fix. I can't have these sitting on my floor anymore just taking up space, I need to HEAR them. @ 2ohm stereo the EPX states 2000wpc, but more conservatively, they should be getting around ,1200 which is the sweet spot. The box is a little small, but it is still worth getting them in to have a good listen...

Thanks, that would be awesome. I've heard a lot of commercial subs and none of them sounded as good as the Submersive to my ears, so I was not expecting the Dayton's to be just as good. The sound is so tight, punchy, tuneful, and has a great weighty sound without a hint of being boomy. If the SI's sound like that I'll be putting my other Submersive up for sale immediately.

Carp - If you're using a similar design to what Mr. Smithers had, you will have a very similar (if not audibly exact) sound. I think you stated you were doing to do separate boxes for each driver which really shouldn't be any different except you will be using a bit more wood. I think you're going to be happy with your recent purchase. Heck, if you're going the DIYsoundgroup kit route you will probably have better constructed boxes than I do.

For the record, I wouldn't trade my quad boxes for any commerical product out there right now.

Thanks Andrew, can't wait to hear them. I still haven't decided on going all seperate boxes or dual opposed, I'm leaning separate but i sure could save some money going dual opposed.

It might come down to which type of flat pack is available first.

Well that will get you in the ball park, but hardly a good definitive test. That's like taking a Ferrari for a road test through a school zone.

well I might wire them differently now that I think about it and get them to a 4 ohm total load and run them off a single channel of the FP14k. That sound a little better? haha

That's how I have mine running. What size are the boxes for your XXX's?

I picked up a pair of their D2 15's when I picked up my order.

Yet to hear them though. Was thinking of sending one to Ricci for testing, but the thought of paying shipping both ways bugs me....lol