Originally Posted by Ricci
Coulda fooled me...
Nick sends his driver in to get Klippel tested and posts the results which is way more info than available for 99% of the stuff on the market but yet there is something fishy about that because more info wasn't shown?
I apologize for not being fast enough to get finished with the SI woofer tests for your tastes. I'm not sure what your expectations are here. You should probably greatly lower your expectations of the rapidness of completing measurements for DB. I have not posted anything because I don't have anything else to add at this time. Funny thing is Nick who is actually producing these woofers has shown way more patience.
I haven't suggested any sort of collusion between you and Nick to withhold information. Hence why there's no conspiracy.
My point, which you seem to have completely missed, by focusing on things I didn't say is that we still don't have any idea yet how the driver will actually perform in a box. There are two sets of T/S parameters that are fairly different from one another. They suggest pretty different things. You went on to undermine your own T/S measurements (which Nick reported first) by saying you don't think they will accurately predict how the sub will perform. Well, you have (had?) the driver. Why didn't you bother to confirm your belief by putting it in a box and measuring it? You managed to measure acquire, characterize the 18" Dayton HO, and set off a buying frenzy in this subforum in the same general time frame. That driver got the rapid treatment at DB.
Yes, we have 4 graphs from a Klippel report. Yes, most manufacturers don't provide Klippel or Dumax reports. However... Those 4 graphs still don't do anything to tell me how the driver is going to actually perform in a box because the small signal, large + cold, and large + warm "T/S" parameter portion of the Klippel report wasn't posted. Maybe Nick doesn't have the whole report yet. I'm just trying to get more information so I can figure out what whether the driver is the steal of the year or just an also ran.
Edit: Last sentence for grammatical error
.Edited by Stereodude - 11/23/12 at 11:50am