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post #31 of 99
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Seems like the NFL App for the PS3 was "mixed" at best. Some people enjoyed it and had no problems. Others had major problems. I wonder if the people who had problems, lived in a more urban surrounding, than those who did not? Meaning their ISP is being used by more people in their area because the population is more dense. Or they live in a development, while people who lived in a more rural setting, don't have to "share" the incoming ISP with as many people.

I don't know. Just throwing things out there.

I would like to know peoples set-ups too, whether they had problems or not. For myself, I live in a pretty rural area. Not too many neighbors. I Time Warner Cable ISP. My MAX Download speed is 15Mbps, but AVG is probable around 10Mbps speed, depending on the time of day. I either use Belkin Powerline adapters for a hard line, but have found my PS3 seems to work just as well using the Wireless option.

My modem is in another room about 25ft away. It is a ZOOM modem found at Best Buy. It is Docsis 3.0 ready, but I do not think my ISP(out of Sharon, PA) uses Docsis 3.0 yet. My router is a Netgear R6300.

So that is my setup, and environment for my PS3. All the other apps on my PS3, wireless, or Belkin connected(if I have a problem with one, I switch to the other), work great. Netflix/Amazon(instant or movie rentals)/MLB.TV/Crackle.

Id anyone used the $250 Ipad/Ipod app, please chime in as well. I would love to know if that was more stable/better. Since you can just connect your Ipad/Ipod to a TV using cables, maybe that would be a better way to go next year. And it is $50 cheaper.
post #32 of 99
My experience 2012 using fios (suburban Philadelphia) 25 Mbps directly (ethernet cable from modem/router) to PS3 was a little like Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde. Typically I was able to enjoy 1pm games. They would display in near hd quality with little to no buffering or lag. 4pm games and overtime 1pm games were a different story. It seemed when more people began tuning to just 1-2 games the quality deteriorated rapidly. Lots of stuttering, buffering, and total loss of signal. Overtime games and close games going down to the wire were often unwatchable.

I won't be ordering up front again. I will probably keep an eye on the forum here and the playstation forums for the first week or two and see how peoples experiences go. I am considering ordering the redzone channel from fios and seeing how I like having only that. In previous years Sony did discount past the halfway point of the season. I might pick it up then if I still really want it.
Edited by harrihuss - 4/17/13 at 7:39pm
post #33 of 99
I had a pretty good experience with the NFL PS3 app in 2012. Also, I purchased the iPhone/Computer access pass, which also gave me access to the PS3 app, there has been some debate as to whether or not the NFL and Sony wanted it to work that way, but it worked for me in 2012, might not be the same situation in 2013. Also, the iPhone app would not let you use the airplay mirroring feature to broadcast the game to your TV if you had a 3rd gen AppleTV set up (pretty lame).

I have a cable modem and typically get 20-25 down using a motorola docsis 3.0 modem and an apple airport router. My PS3 is hard wired to the router. My internet provider supports docsis 3.0 and I saw a major reliability boost in internet connectivity when I upgraded. from 2.0 to 3.0.

Switching between games would typically take 5-7 seconds but the quality was always in decent HD, with rare pixelation. The audio lagged a little bit, but nothing overly annoying.
post #34 of 99
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Of course, after this season, this could all become moot if the NFL sells the SNFLT to a lot of other sources, and not just DirecTV. Current deal runs until the end of 2014 season, and there have been no negotiations so far. Plus, DirecTV put out a statement over a month ago that it might not bid on a new deal because it was becoming just too expensive for them.

But, this is all just speculation at this point. Like most here, I believe, I would like too see it come too multiple platforms like cable, ROKU, Blu-Ray players, Ipad's/Ipod's, TV's, etc.... like MLB.TV/NBA/NHL

But, we will just have too wait and see.
post #35 of 99
I'll guess this gets much better on the PS4.

Not only because its got 8 gigs to buffer a heck of a lot more game (than 256 megs)....

but because it will have the realtime compress/decompress/uploading/downloading chip.
post #36 of 99
I would say it worked merely "ok" for me. Most of the time it worked. There were times where it would sit and buffer, and buffer, and buffer. Also the resolution would fluctuate and make it almost unwatchable at times. I have a decent 12Mbs speed and I can run streaming Netflix in HD and/or gaming on my PS3, Xbox 360, and computer at the same time without any problems. It is a nice feature and I hope they continue it. Gotta see my Bears!
post #37 of 99
ALERT, people jump on this QUICK:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CF7KVGE/ref=ox_ya_os_product

The code for tablet/ipad version will work with PS3, I verified this last year.

This is a monster deal. Only 50,000 amazon copies for PS3, hurry!
post #38 of 99
"Just when I thought i was out" this deal is too good to pass up.

Thanks for the heads up.

If anyone wants a good deal on the Madden 25 Anniversary Edition minus the Sunday Ticket promo code send me a pm.
post #39 of 99
Keep in mind, you probably wont be able to sell your PS3 to get a PS4 until January.

(unless you want to lose this NFL ticket)
post #40 of 99
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Originally Posted by defdog99 View Post

Keep in mind, you probably wont be able to sell your PS3 to get a PS4 until January.

(unless you want to lose this NFL ticket)

The code grants a Direct TV account (established by registering a username and password at the DTV website) access to the tablet/computer version of the Sunday ticket, fortunately, that access also worked (and hopefully will work this year) on the PS3 app (the PS3 app would require you sign in using a DTV account).

Here is a great review and info on how it all works:

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/28860/reviewing-the-nfl-sunday-ticket-on-ps3-ipad-and-online-experience-for-2012/

I would be very surprised if the PS4 did not have an equivalent Sunday Ticket App. My point being, assuming the PS4 does have a similiar app, you could just login with the same DTV credentials and watch football on the PS4, and sell your ps3.
post #41 of 99
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That is a GREAT review. Very precise, with LOTS of information. I am sure a lot of people will have different results. But that review was very well done.
post #42 of 99
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Originally Posted by ahartig View Post

The code grants a Direct TV account (established by registering a username and password at the DTV website) access to the tablet/computer version of the Sunday ticket, fortunately, that access also worked (and hopefully will work this year) on the PS3 app (the PS3 app would require you sign in using a DTV account).

Here is a great review and info on how it all works:

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/28860/reviewing-the-nfl-sunday-ticket-on-ps3-ipad-and-online-experience-for-2012/

I would be very surprised if the PS4 did not have an equivalent Sunday Ticket App. My point being, assuming the PS4 does have a similiar app, you could just login with the same DTV credentials and watch football on the PS4, and sell your ps3.

Ok, I went ahead and pre-ordered, based some on your advice that this is a good deal. And I will get value out of Madden, would probably pay 30-40 for that at launch.

I have a couple of questions even after reading the article.

1) I have FiOS and a PS3. So, I will be able to watch NFL Sunday ticket on either my PS3 or my iPad (as long as I log out of one to get into the other)? This is how I understand it but would like to confirm, as there are times I would want to be able to watch on either and would not purchase a 2nd license.

2) NFL Redzone. I've heard great things about this for fantasy football fans such as myself. Are we sure this is included in Madden 25 Anniversary edition and if so, I'd be able to call up on my TV via my PS3 OR through my iPad, correct? I'd be able to use either device just like Sunday Ticket?

The Cowboys are my favorite team and while I am out of market, I only seem to miss ~2 games a year since they are always on, either primetime or on Sundays as long as the Redskins (local team) aren't playing at the same time. So NFL Sunday Ticket for me would have value but maybe not as much value as it would for say a Cleveland Browns fan in Georgia.

Thank you in advance!!
post #43 of 99
Uh Oh, I think I need to cancel my order. This description on the webpage doesn't sound good for my situation. I don't have DirecTV but I have the option and I don't want to switch from FiOS.

Also, it clearly states in the FAQs that you can't watch on your PS3, only on mobile devices. mad.gif

http://www.amazon.com/Madden-NFL-Anniversary-Edition-Playstation-3/dp/B00CF7KVGE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=19EKBHTQWI62K&coliid=I1PFPT2FJU69W8

Exclusive Offers From DirecTV

For fans who are not currently DirecTV subscribers but are able to receive DirecTV service, they will receive a promo code entitling them to $10 off per month for their first year of service and one year of NFL Sunday Ticket Max at no additional charge.
For fans who are already DirecTV and NFL Sunday Ticket Max subscribers, you can access NFL Sunday Ticket on your computer, tablet, and mobile devices using your current DirecTV username and password.
For fans unable to receive DirecTV service, each Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition will include a unique code to access the 2013 regular season (17 weeks) trial of NFL Sunday Ticket on computers, tablets, and mobile devices- including access to the award-winning Red Zone Channel.


Frequently Asked Questions

Can I watch NFL Sunday Ticket on my PS3 by purchasing the Anniversary Edition?
No, this only provides access to NFL Sunday Ticket on computer, tablet, and mobile devices.
post #44 of 99
One more follow-up, hopefully this is helpful for others (two good articles linked).

It sounds like:

1) Not having DirecTV is not a hang up even if you can technically get it.
2) You can NOT watch on the big screen via the PS3 app (boo), you'd have to rig up connecting your pc to your TV.

http://kotaku.com/madden-special-edition-includes-sunday-ticket-even-wi-508524868

http://kotaku.com/maddens-tv-offer-is-the-deal-that-dares-not-speak-its-509859512

http://www.easports.com/news/article/anniversary-edition

Definitely on the fence on this one. Would I pay $60-70 (I value Madden at $30-40) for NFL Sunday Ticket on my iPad mini? Probably not. Does it throw in Redzone too? I dunno....
Edited by djb5f - 5/31/13 at 8:09am
post #45 of 99
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Frequently Asked Questions

Can I watch NFL Sunday Ticket on my PS3 by purchasing the Anniversary Edition?
No, this only provides access to NFL Sunday Ticket on computer, tablet, and mobile devices.

Unless they radically changed their internal verification system for online codes (which I doubt), this is the same textbook warning they gave the past two years about the computer access subscription not giving PS3 access. I used the computer access code (Sunday Ticket Max login of a friend) for the 2012 season and it worked without any issues on my PS3. Worst case scenario, you plug in your laptop to your tv (or use an Apple TV to mirror your laptop, works, flawlessly) and watch it that way, still a monster deal in my book.

This guy who reviewed the 2012 Sunday ticket also used the computer code successfully on his PS3, and DTV also told him that would not work:

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/28860/reviewing-the-nfl-sunday-ticket-on-ps3-ipad-and-online-experience-for-2012/

"One of my big questions was, if I order Sunday Ticket through PS3, will I also get access on my computer, iPad, etc? I took to the Interwebs for a search. Two of the commentors from a thread on the Buffalo Bills discussion board indicated that they were told by DirecTV support that purchasing one would give access to the other (scroll down to the bottom of the thread for the relevant comments). The commenters were apparently told that it was all part of the same system and their username and password would work for both. However, this thread on the DirecTV forums indicates that they are separate subscriptions and one won’t give access to the other. I called DirecTV customer support to try to get some clarity. The Customer Support rep I spoke with told me the same thing that appeared on the DirecTV forum: that PS3 and the Online NFL Sunday Ticket were two separate systems and thus I would have to purchase both packages to get them on both devices. With that information in mind, I decided to order the online version for $250 from the DirecTV website.

Ordering was simple and there really wasn’t any sort of verification other than clicking a few check boxes to certify that I have never had DirecTV at my address and could’t get DirecTV for one reason or another.

After ordering online, and creating a username and password, curiosity got the best of me and I headed to the PS3 to see if those credentials would let me log into the Sunday Ticket app on the PS3. And, I’m very pleased to report, they did work. I ordered the online version and got access to PS3 as well.
Not to veer too far of topic, but this points to a reason why consumers get so frustrated with products like this. It’s so hard to get straight information. Plus, you’ve got customer support telling different people different things.

This raises a few more questions. First, is it the same if you order through PS3? Do those subscribers through PS3 (who pay $50 more) also get access online & mobile devices. Second, are you supposed to get access to all platforms regardless of where you buy Sunday Ticket online? In other words, is this a loophole that Sony/DirecTV will close? I wouldn’t think so, but I hesitate to advise people on which version to buy based on that concern. For that reason, I just mention what worked for me, and I would suggest calling customer support and trying to get confirmation if you are concerned. With all that out of the way, on to the review…
"
Edited by ahartig - 5/31/13 at 10:24am
post #46 of 99
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Originally Posted by djb5f View Post

Does it throw in Redzone too? I dunno....

Unless they changed it for the 2013 season, the Red Zone channel is included with the PS3 app and Computer/iPad access program
post #47 of 99
Awesome, thanks for the follow-up. I am going to give it a try and am hopeful, I can view on my TV via the PS3 (already connected of course).

Did you have any issues switching to watch it from the PS3 to a mobile/tablet/pc or vice versa? It seems like I should be able to watch it on either as long as I am only logged in on one place, yeah?

Also, can you clarify on Red Zone package. That should automatically be a part of the Sunday Ticket (within same service)? Just trying to verify that I will likely get the option to watch Redzone on PS3 (hopefully) and my iPad just like I would any of the Sunday games.
post #48 of 99
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Originally Posted by ahartig View Post

Unless they changed it for the 2013 season, the Red Zone channel is included with the PS3 app and Computer/iPad access program

Oops, you beat me to the punch! Yeah, seeing as how I will get value from the game too, this is a great deal. Now I just need to carve out more free time, ha. smile.gif
post #49 of 99
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Did you have any issues switching to watch it from the PS3 to a mobile/tablet/pc or vice versa?

No, just make sure you fully log out of one device when wanting to watch on a different one.
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It seems like I should be able to watch it on either as long as I am only logged in on one place, yeah?

Exactly.
post #50 of 99
Sold! You should get a commission wink.gif
post #51 of 99
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Sold! You should get a commission wink.gif

Ha! For the past couple years I have had to sweat about trying to get the ticket on the cheap because I pulled the plug from cable/satellite a few years back. I actually ended up biting the bullet and paid the full 299 price tag for the ps3 the first year it was offered (yikes, that one hurt), but luckily got some refunds from Sony when the first few weeks were unbearable to watch.

I'm just super happy I don't have to worry about it this year, ~$50 for a full season of the ticket, and on my iPhone if needed? Yes Please.
post #52 of 99
The problem is once I get hooked on Sunday Ticket (and Redzone package), I am sure it will be hard to go back to life without it! This is what they are intending no doubt, bringing in new customers...

And you have more resolve than me, I don't think I could cut cable, mainly for ESPN and college football/colllege hoops which along with the NFL, I follow closely. But it is quite the bill when you add in triple bundle, HD DVRs and sometimes HBO (the best programming bar none) when they have a half-off deal.
post #53 of 99
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The problem is once I get hooked on Sunday Ticket (and Redzone package), I am sure it will be hard to go back to life without it! This is what they are intending no doubt, bringing in new customers...

And you have more resolve than me, I don't think I could cut cable, mainly for ESPN and college football/colllege hoops which along with the NFL, I follow closely. But it is quite the bill when you add in triple bundle, HD DVRs and sometimes HBO (the best programming bar none) when they have a half-off deal.

Yes, luckily, the only sports I really follow are the NFL for fantasy football purposes and Spanish La Liga futbol. If I were an NBA or college football or baseball junkie, cutting the cable would be very hard, although I have heard great things about the MLB.com and NBA streaming services.
post #54 of 99
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Yes, luckily, the only sports I really follow are the NFL for fantasy football purposes and Spanish La Liga futbol. If I were an NBA or college football or baseball junkie, cutting the cable would be very hard, although I have heard great things about the MLB.com and NBA streaming services.

Just ordered the 25th Anniversary edition myself. With taking the fastest shipping, the total with tax+shipping was $114.45 or something. Since the game sells for $60, regular price, $54.55 for the NFL Sunday Ticket on my Ipad/Ipod/AppleTV via Mirroring, and "hopefully" my PS3 as well, you just can't beat that deal(WITHOUT having to sign up for DirecTV, of course)

And if you folks do not opt for fast shipping(I did), it will come to like $106. So it you will get SNFLT for like $44. Wow.

With sports now, it is nearly complete to just have HSI(High Speed Internet) by itself. I have had MLB.TV for the last two years, and it is great on PS3, Roku, AppleTV(I have those 3 units so I can talk about them. PS3 is the best IMHO. The UI is fantastic).

Now we have NFLST on mobile devices. It "should" continue to be available that way for the foreseeable future, even if the NFL sells it to cable companies too come 2015(2014 is DirecTV last year of exclusive ownership, and it looks like they are not going to bid for it by themselves. Price, according to their CEO, is just going to be too high).

NBA.TV and NHL GameCenter I cannot speak for, since I have had neither. Plus, the NHL "Blackout" rules are atrocious IMHO because they consider games being shown on their own NHL network, and NBCSports(only way to get these for most people is through digital cable, or satellite) as LOCAL OTA games, and are Blacked out everywhere across the US. Bogus. And my beloved NY Rangers are shown on there quite a bit, so a lot of the games would be blacked out for me, even though I live near Pittsburgh, PA. BS!!!

Do not know what the rules are for the NBA, but sure they are similar. MLB.TV does not black out games unless they are on OTA(FOX), or ESPN. Even games shown on their own MLB Network, are not blacked out, and are not considered "National OTA Telecasts" like the NHL does. That is why it rocks.

Do not know if college sports have Apps yet, but it seems logical that they would make them. Like a Big 10 app for all their games. Same thing for like the SEC, Big12, Pac-10, etc... probably won't be one app too see any college football game since the conferences are greedy, so they will probably make separate ones, charge a fee for the year, and keep the money for themselves and not share it.

Throw up a Antenna for local OTA HD stations, and your fill of Sports should be completely satisfied.
post #55 of 99
I already have DirecTV. So this is basically useless to me, I guess. I'm not going to watch NFL games on my phone. That is lame.
post #56 of 99
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Yes. It would be "lame" for you. But for those of us who DO NOT WANT DirecTV, this is a great solution. And for $55 or less, we get the whole season on our IPads, IPods, Computers, IPad mini, Androids, etc.... Plus, we get to send to send the games we are watching through AirPlay, or direct connection via a cable from any of the above devices, so it can be watched on any big screen plasma or LED.

Now, the PS3 loophole may be gone, but we will not know until the season starts. Plus we get the Redzone Channel as well, not too mention Madden 25, and all the added bonus material.

But I do have a question for those who had it last year or previously, "Do you have to physically CANCEL the subscription after the season, so it does not automatically renew?" I know with other services(MLB.TV, Netflix, HuluPlus), you have to sign in to your account and actually cancel, or it will auto-renew at regular price($299 for SNFLT MAX. OUCH!).

Anyone know?
post #57 of 99
Interesting about maybe needing to cancel so it doesn't renew at $299 going forward.

My math was that I value the new Madden at ~$40 (I wasn't planning to get it this year but I will play it quite a bit and I am looking forward to the Madden Ultimate Team mode, also part of the bonus are MUT packs. I became quite addicted to the NHL 13 HUT mode, and I am way more into football than hockey.

I did free shipping, no worries if Madden takes a few days to arrive so that means $60 for the NFL Sunday Ticket and Redzone package (great for fantasy football fans). Sure hope the PS3 works though as I'd much rather watch on the big screen and use the iPad just here and there.
post #58 of 99
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Plus, we get to send to send the games we are watching through AirPlay

One note about airplay, I seem to recall last year that the iPhone app would block the video signal from being mirrored to any apple tv...... I never tried it with the laptop, but I doubt they would have the capability of blocking a DTV website from being mirrored, worst case scenario, you can just use AirParrot on your laptop to mirror, or direct connect.
post #59 of 99
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One note about airplay, I seem to recall last year that the iPhone app would block the video signal from being mirrored to any apple tv...... I never tried it with the laptop, but I doubt they would have the capability of blocking a DTV website from being mirrored, worst case scenario, you can just use AirParrot on your laptop to mirror, or direct connect.

Yeah, I figured that might be a problem. But I already have the HDMI A/V connection from Apple, plus the component connector from RocketFish for older TV's with either component, or worse, composite.
post #60 of 99
I sort of wonder if the PS3 (or PS4) will even have the Sunday Ticket app this year since Microsoft has the new NFL deal on the XboxOne. http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/microsoft-lands-nfl-partnership-for-xbox-one/
I'm sure we'll find out soon, E3 is almost here. Plus you can always just cancel a pre-order, so I guess it's no risk to just buy it now just in case.
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