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post #31 of 56
Digipack with no disc holders means scratched disc's...........how did scratched disc's become ok?

Complete stupidity if there is no disc holder.
post #32 of 56
Very confusing. If for $5 more you get Blu-Ray video and audio (5.1 DTS HD MA), why would anyone bother with the BD-audio alone disc? And the price for the Blu-Ray A/V set is the same as that for the Blu-Ray A/V + CD set! Why would Warner spend the money to market so many versions?

It is fabulous to have so many choices for Zep . But it is sad to see all these riches when juxtaposed with the lossy treatment in store for Tull's TaaB. mad.gif
post #33 of 56
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

Very confusing. If for $5 more you get Blu-Ray video and audio (5.1 DTS HD MA), why would anyone bother with the BD-audio alone disc? And the price for the Blu-Ray A/V set is the same as that for the Blu-Ray A/V + CD set! Why would Warner spend the money to market so many versions?
It is fabulous to have so many choices for Zep . But it is sad to see all these riches when juxtaposed with the lossy treatment in store for Tull's TaaB. mad.gif

You are correct and I agree. Whoever did the packaging on this MUCH ANTICIPATED release must have been in a room with little oxygen. Some people will go for the Blu Ray Audio only but it doesn't make any sense if you already have the Blu Ray Video. They should have given an option to get the Blu Ray Audio and Blu Ray Video with the CD's in one pkg. Also, WHY OH WHY are they releasing the video in a CD packaging style? And WHY OH WHY did they not include the extras on the Blu Ray instead of a seperate release on a DVD?

Jeff
post #34 of 56
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Originally Posted by Celluloid Hero View Post

Excellent! Now if Page would only give the whole Zep catalog the same treatment...yeah that's the ticket! Come on Jimmy surround us with your Zeppelin!



There is word that Jimmy is doing some work on the original catalog. OK boys, start drooling now! biggrin.gif
post #35 of 56
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There is word that Jimmy is doing some work on the original catalog. OK boys, start drooling now! biggrin.gif

Hopefully with Steven Wilson at the helm smile.gif.

Bill
post #36 of 56
Just saw the movie last night over here in Seattle. Pretty awesome on the big screen. The boys did admirably. Looking forward to getting the Blu-Ray.

One thing that caught my ear, surround wise, was the crowd noise between songs. I really wasn't sure if the crowd noise was coming from the sold out movie, or the movie itself, since practically everyone in the theater was applauding after every song. Also, even though we had about the best seats in the house, I thought that the vocal in the center could've been a tiny bit louder and the bass more focused, but that also could've been due to how the cinema had their system setup. I think once I get the Blu-Ray, I'll be able to balance the sound a bit more to my liking on my own system.

All in all, a highly recommended video to watch and enjoy.
post #37 of 56
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Originally Posted by Joe Hendrix View Post

Just saw the movie last night over here in Seattle. Pretty awesome on the big screen. The boys did admirably. Looking forward to getting the Blu-Ray.
One thing that caught my ear, surround wise, was the crowd noise between songs. I really wasn't sure if the crowd noise was coming from the sold out movie, or the movie itself, since practically everyone in the theater was applauding after every song. Also, even though we had about the best seats in the house, I thought that the vocal in the center could've been a tiny bit louder and the bass more focused, but that also could've been due to how the cinema had their system setup. I think once I get the Blu-Ray, I'll be able to balance the sound a bit more to my liking on my own system.
All in all, a highly recommended video to watch and enjoy.

How was the audio all in all in your theater? On the Led Zeppelin Forum, there are many, many, (to many to say the least) issues with the volume not loud enough, to loud, horrible sound, movie wouldn't play, etc. And I'm waiting for the Blu Ray and will not venture to the theater to see this. Besides, it's an hour drive for an unsure presentation, unsure in the fact that the theaters are messing up.

Jeff
post #38 of 56
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

How was the audio all in all in your theater? On the Led Zeppelin Forum, there are many, many, (to many to say the least) issues with the volume not loud enough, to loud, horrible sound, movie wouldn't play, etc. And I'm waiting for the Blu Ray and will not venture to the theater to see this. Besides, it's an hour drive for an unsure presentation, unsure in the fact that the theaters are messing up.
Jeff

I do not go to the movies that much unless there is something special my family wants to see. But I wonder if many theaters are really setup correctly for the best audio quality. Most of us here on AVS and other A/V forums take great effort to insure that are systems sound the best they possibly can. One has to wonder if the same effort is taken at ones local multi screen theaters.

Bill
post #39 of 56
I went to the theater to see Queen at Budapest last month all they did was play the Blu-Ray disc on their digital projector, the sound was nothing great, the volume was a bit low.
I'd never go back for a concert film again, I can do better at home. And the price $12.50 half the cost of the disc!
post #40 of 56
I am assuming they were playing an early release of the Blu-Ray. I think I mentioned that the sound was a little quite at first than what you would expect from a R&R concert, but I think they slowly cranked it up as the show went on, since it seemed a bit louder (and better sounding) by the end. The picture quality was great. I did have a few quibbles about how they had the sound dialed in, but I think once you get the blu-ray (or DVD), you'll be able to adjust it more to your liking. The Cinerama in Seattle is a great theater that had a recent renovation done. Pretty top of the line equipment in there. All I can say is that the people in the sold out show seemed to really enjoy it, with everyone cheering between songs.

I think this was a one or two night offering of the show, so if you had not caught it on these special nights, then you'll have to wait for the release on DVD/Bluray.
post #41 of 56
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Hopefully with Steven Wilson at the helm smile.gif.
Bill



It looks like Steven Wilson agrees with you!



http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/art-listening



S+V: Ok, it’s time to bring out your crystal ball. What do you see for the future of surround mixing?

Wilson: I might be wrong, but I detect a slight pickup in interest in the audiophile end of the market, which I think the major record labels had turned their backs on the last few years. But it was through the artists’ push, like Neil Young and Tom Petty, where you would actually get high-rez releases and 5.1 mixes. And the record companies have picked up on it because this is one of the last chances they may have to sell physical product. These are the guys who will still pay $100 for a box set.

There’s always a moment with a format like this where it comes down to one band, very high profile, doing the right thing and blowing it open for everyone else. And obviously the biggest one would be the Beatles. If the Beatles were to issue high-rez remixes, it could change everything. They need to release surround mixes of Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, and The White Album — it’s as simple as that.

S+V: Led Zeppelin could blow it wide open too if their catalog was done in 5.1

Wilson: No doubt about it. My understanding is that Jimmy Page approves everything, so if this idea gets to him, I’d sure love to do it.
post #42 of 56
I just posted a review of the Celebration Day Blu-Ray on my blog:

http://seriousaudioblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/multichannel-music-review-led-zeppelin.html

It's probably pretty rough - I like to scribble something down, then clean it up later - but hopefully someone enjoys it.
post #43 of 56
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Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post

I just posted a review of the Celebration Day Blu-Ray on my blog:
http://seriousaudioblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/multichannel-music-review-led-zeppelin.html
It's probably pretty rough - I like to scribble something down, then clean it up later - but hopefully someone enjoys it.

Just a small mistake on your review, "The DVD is to load on a portable device" is incorrect. The DVD is the band filmed while rehearsing for the show.
post #44 of 56
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Just a small mistake on your review, "The DVD is to load on a portable device" is incorrect. The DVD is the band filmed while rehearsing for the show.

I watched the rehearsal last night and it's night and day to the actual concert. The concert is so much more powerful in it's presentation, but in the rehearsal you can hear Robert Plants vocals more clearly. And the Blu Ray audio has a higher bit rate compared to the Blu Ray concert.

Jeff
post #45 of 56
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

I watched the rehearsal last night and it's night and day to the actual concert. The concert is so much more powerful in it's presentation, but in the rehearsal you can hear Robert Plants vocals more clearly.

Interesting. Haven't watched it yet.
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

And the Blu Ray audio has a higher bit rate compared to the Blu Ray concert.

Jeff

If the master's no different, that won't change a thing. See Meyer and Moran, cited in the review, supra. If the actual master is different, then the BRA may sound different from the concert video.
post #46 of 56
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Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post

Interesting. Haven't watched it yet.
If the master's no different, that won't change a thing. See Meyer and Moran, cited in the review, supra. If the actual master is different, then the BRA may sound different from the concert video.

Many are complaining about the mixing of this concert, both Blu Ray and DVD. Also has anyone experienced problems with playing either the Blu Ray or DVD? I go to the menu and choose a song and the sound is delayed for several seconds which is annoying. Others are having issues as well, which some are blaming on layer changes on the DVD. From what folks are describing this is no layer change.

Jeff
post #47 of 56
The Blu-Ray plays fine on my BDP-83, including direct track access. I've still not had a chance to sit down with the accompanying rehearsal DVD.
post #48 of 56
I watched the first half of the BD last night and it's great, both audio and video. I didn't see a package with the BD Audio disc at the store where I bought it. I agree it's confusing all the package options. I couldn't even find just the BD video by itself, had to get the CDs with mine. I always forget to choose 5.1 surround at startup, I wish that could be automatic somehow. I'm new to this forum having been on the Samsung ES8000 TV thread. I love BD Audio, I've got Mojo, and the TP Live boxed set with it, and of course Love. I have a handful of the old SACDs too (RIP right?).
post #49 of 56
I have been reading through all the posts and I haven't come across many with their impressions of the sound quality. Perhaps I am in the minority, but I found the SQ very disappointing. The sound comes out like it is compressed. It almost sounds like LZ was recorded in a can. I don't know the reason why they felt compelled to compress since it is basically the concert on the blu-ray. I love Led Zeppelin but I wished it sounded better.
post #50 of 56
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Originally Posted by insmanblue View Post

I have been reading through all the posts and I haven't come across many with their impressions of the sound quality. Perhaps I am in the minority, but I found the SQ very disappointing. The sound comes out like it is compressed. It almost sounds like LZ was recorded in a can. I don't know the reason why they felt compelled to compress since it is basically the concert on the blu-ray. I love Led Zeppelin but I wished it sounded better.
I thought it sounded pretty good. The first time I played it I forget to switch to 5.1 Dolby, the default is stereo. I don't really have anything to compare it to though. Those guys can still play.
post #51 of 56
I've listened to the Blu-Ray a couple of times, and I did have to tweak my receiver just a bit to get the sound just right (boosted the sub and rebalanced the fronts and center), but once that was done I just cranked it and it was sounding pretty awesome. I do think the first song was not completely dialed in on the soundboard, but after that I felt the sonic glory of Zep. smile.gif
post #52 of 56
Maybe I need to give it another chance and see if any adjustment will improve the sound.
post #53 of 56
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Originally Posted by Joe Hendrix View Post

I've listened to the Blu-Ray a couple of times, and I did have to tweak my receiver just a bit to get the sound just right (boosted the sub and rebalanced the fronts and center), but once that was done I just cranked it and it was sounding pretty awesome. I do think the first song was not completely dialed in on the soundboard, but after that I felt the sonic glory of Zep. smile.gif

If you watch the concert on You Tube you will notice that there is (pun intended here) a whole lotta feedback during "Good Times, Bad Times", I think the sound mix on the first song on the Blu Ray might be substandard due to them removing the feed back. Just my thought.

Jeff
post #54 of 56
I think the part I most enjoyed from the concert was the rollicking rendition of "Trampled Underfoot". Man, that song had some serious drive to it.
post #55 of 56
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Originally Posted by Joe Hendrix View Post

I've listened to the Blu-Ray a couple of times, and I did have to tweak my receiver just a bit to get the sound just right (boosted the sub and rebalanced the fronts and center), but once that was done I just cranked it and it was sounding pretty awesome. I do think the first song was not completely dialed in on the soundboard, but after that I felt the sonic glory of Zep. smile.gif

If you watch the concert on You Tube you will notice that there is (pun intended here) a whole lotta feedback during "Good Times, Bad Times", I think the sound mix on the first song on the Blu Ray might be substandard due to them removing the feed back. Just my thought.

Jeff

Yeah...by "In my time of Dying" and on they're sounding incredible. I almost didn't get the Blu Ray Audio, thinking that even with a higher bitrate, I'd not here it...there's some surprises in the mix, so it's necessary; I've not heard the 180 gram yet.
post #56 of 56
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

Very confusing. If for $5 more you get Blu-Ray video and audio (5.1 DTS HD MA), why would anyone bother with the BD-audio alone disc? And the price for the Blu-Ray A/V set is the same as that for the Blu-Ray A/V + CD set! Why would Warner spend the money to market so many versions?
It is fabulous to have so many choices for Zep . But it is sad to see all these riches when juxtaposed with the lossy treatment in store for Tull's TaaB. mad.gif

You are correct and I agree. Whoever did the packaging on this MUCH ANTICIPATED release must have been in a room with little oxygen. Some people will go for the Blu Ray Audio only but it doesn't make any sense if you already have the Blu Ray Video. They should have given an option to get the Blu Ray Audio and Blu Ray Video with the CD's in one pkg. Also, WHY OH WHY are they releasing the video in a CD packaging style? And WHY OH WHY did they not include the extras on the Blu Ray instead of a seperate release on a DVD?

Jeff
I agree about the packaging; should've been blu ray style...as far as the DVD, perhaps it was actually cost effective vs. 2 separate BD video releases
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