Originally Posted by Low Profile
I find your reply to be full of conjecture at best. How do you know Netflix and Redbox can't afford to offer a version of a given Blu-ray which includes the primary HD audio track while at the same time not increasing the price of their Blu-ray rentals? How do you know that if Netflix and Redbox did increase prices to ensure the HD audio track is always included that there would be some sort of price outrage? Do you speak for everyone that rents Blu-ray's from Netflix and Redbox? I'd be willing to pay a little bit more if along with the increased price a version of the Blu-ray title always includes the primary HD audio track. It would still be far and away cheaper than purchasing the retail version of the given Blu-ray which I simply won't do unless I determine it offers replay value first. And who is demanding low price rentals? Demanding ... really? And what would still be considered low price? I guess it all depends on who you ask. And what does "meeting the BD standards" mean? Is there somewhere I can go where it defines what that is? It's not unreasonable to expect at the very least for a given Blu-ray rental to include the feature presentation with the primary HD audio track included, especially considering the fact we have to pay a premium to rent the given Blu-ray. We pay a price by loss of a non-essential feature in return for a real release date? Silly me for considering the primary HD audio track to be an essential part of the Blu-ray experience not to mention I don't agree you have a basis for stating such a tradeoff is being made to begin with. I also don't have any issue by the way with Netflix and Redbox not making a given Blu-ray available for rent the same day as the retail release date. Who do the studios think they are kidding by imposing these restrictions on Netflix and Redbox? What, so I have to wait a few weeks to rent a given title. Oh that's right. The world is going to come to an end if I have to wait a few weeks, so let me go out and purchase the retail version for $15 or more rather than wait a few weeks to rent the title for a buck or two. What exactly is the urgency for anyone to have to be able to rent a given Blu-ray title the same day that it's available to purchase in retail. There is none. And yes, maybe this topic has been hashed and re-hashed, but I've only just joined the discussion yesterday and at least my replies have been sound and reasoned while at the same time not attempting to speak for others. I've also spoken my mind to both Netflix and Redbox on this matter and would encourage others to do the same if they feel so inclined.
.. you have the right to use the services or not .. the purpose of a thread is to compile information over a period of time .. the standards for BD are posted on this thread ..
Many, many BD's don't have an HD track .. Lionsgate can do what they want with their catalog .. and we can rent them or not ..
You'll find that the vast majority of the renting public neither knows nor cares ..
It's a simple equation .. Lionsgate wants to add value for folks that buy a BD .. thus attempting to boost sales .. NF / RB wants the cheapest possible cost per disc .. thus, a non-essential feature that most don't really care about that much anyway goes away .. the renting consumer benefits by lower cost .. the studio can trumpet it's retail version .. none of this is conjecture .. it's Business .. I've been a Businessman with various owned companies for over 35 years .. I also am a stockholder in NF ..
With BD sales no where near the cash cow expected, it is not surprising these kind of things take place .. first the window of release, now this .. and we will continue to see further experimentation ..