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post #31 of 313
12/16/12 at 8:07am
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Where are all these drop outs coming from? have years of DTS ruined our receivers?
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post #32 of 313
12/16/12 at 12:20pm
Off and on we have had titles that will have "drop-outs" on some of the multitude of hardware set-ups out there.
Almost always a hardware FW update cures it.

For those with problems, you should check out the threads for your equipment in AVS's Hardware Forum for answers.
Odds are there will be others with the same problem.wink.gif
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post #33 of 313
12/18/12 at 6:25am
Played the movie tonight and had audio drop outs too
bugged the hell out of me and the 1st time its ever happened
I switched from bitstream to PCM and that stopped the audio drop outs
I have a yamaha RX-V665 RECIEVER using it as a preamp
There is no available updates to the firmware from yamaha--its the original firmware it came with
I dont like PCM because I have the settings in the reciever the way I like them
So its the dolby true hd track thats bothersome to some hardware
wish they would just stay with DTS MA as default for bluray
bugga
My yamaha is the aussie version and the U.S. model has a later firmware update but worried to use that
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post #34 of 313
12/18/12 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by denass View Post

Played the movie tonight and had audio drop outs too
bugged the hell out of me and the 1st time its ever happened
I switched from bitstream to PCM and that stopped the audio drop outs
I have a yamaha RX-V665 RECIEVER using it as a preamp
There is no available updates to the firmware from yamaha--its the original firmware it came with
I dont like PCM because I have the settings in the reciever the way I like them
So its the dolby true hd track thats bothersome to some hardware
wish they would just stay with DTS MA as default for bluray
bugga
My yamaha is the aussie version and the U.S. model has a later firmware update but worried to use that

Pretty apparent that Dolby has changed the recipe somewhere along the lines and this is the result. I too have had issues with the lastest TrueHD discs (Walking Dead, Nemo, Brave). My Marantz AV7005 is up to date, as are my Oppo players. This shouldn't be an issue at this point in the game.
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post #35 of 313
12/18/12 at 11:13am
It probably isn't, but I hope it's Cinevia and the have to stop using it.
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post #36 of 313
12/18/12 at 2:16pm
I just checked the rental disc, and the playlist for seamless branching is about 70 titles long. I still wouldn't rule this out as a potential cause for dropouts. Frankly, its a wonder this disc plays at all. rolleyes.gif
The one thing that's not causing dropouts is Cinavia.
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post #37 of 313
12/18/12 at 3:52pm
Seems like I read somewhere that Dolby true hd struggles with seamless branching movies. That is one of the reasons DTS is becoming the standard on blu-ray releases.




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Found a article

http://www.blu-raystats.com/NewsLog/2010/01/15/dts-hd-master-audio-becoming-the-blu-ray-standard/

I also found some articles saying Cinevia is not reliable with DTSMA sound tracks, Maybe Sony is forced to use Dolby and accept possible drop outs.
Edited by Fuzzy761210 - 12/18/12 at 4:07pm
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post #38 of 313
12/18/12 at 4:27pm
Another reason to avoid Total Recall 2012. tongue.gif
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post #39 of 313
12/18/12 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Another reason to avoid Total Recall 2012. tongue.gif

But at least they kept the chic with the three boobs in the storyline. That alone makes it worth at least a rental. wink.gif
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post #40 of 313
12/18/12 at 8:14pm
Watched this in a couple different players, both of which had issues with it. It was a rental disc. If I had paid money for this I'd be returning it as defective.
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post #41 of 313
12/18/12 at 8:29pm
hope they get the message and get back to what works
my local rental shop is going to complain back to the distributor
maybe there might be enough of a back swell for the distributors to take note
its not an isolated issue
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post #42 of 313
12/18/12 at 9:23pm
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But at least they kept the chic with the three boobs in the storyline. That alone makes it worth at least a rental. wink.gif

That's what Google search is for. tongue.gif
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post #43 of 313
12/18/12 at 10:40pm
For those people that rented it from either Redbox, Netflix, or Blockbuster, did it come with HD audio?

Also, was it the extended edition or the regular theatrical edition?

I am contemplating if I should get it from redbox or wait for 3dblurayrentals.com to send me a retail version of the extended within a week or so.
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post #44 of 313
12/18/12 at 10:50pm
Mine was from Netflix. It had HD audio but there was only one version. I'm assuming it was the theatrical one.
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post #45 of 313
12/18/12 at 11:41pm
No audio problems here (2-disc retail version, bitstreaming from a Panasonic BD player).

I have to say this movie was much more entertaining than I expected. The production design is top notch, and most of the action scenes are very well executed. The video and particularly the audio quality of the disc are really good too. Bit of a shame that they didn't dare to deviate more from the storyline of the first Total Recall. As it is, the movie is just too predictable.
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post #46 of 313
12/19/12 at 12:16am
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Originally Posted by khalid7412002 View Post

For those people that rented it from either Redbox, Netflix, or Blockbuster, did it come with HD audio?
Also, was it the extended edition or the regular theatrical edition?
I am contemplating if I should get it from redbox or wait for 3dblurayrentals.com to send me a retail version of the extended within a week or so.

The disc label states UNRATED, bu the movie is the PG-13 version. However, the longer version is included but is only when engaging the INSIGHT application...which means lots of interruptions and screen-shrinking.
I watched the Director's Cut via VuDu. It features scenes with Ethan Hawke in a somewhat important role. I didn't even know he was in the film. If he is NOT in the PG-13 version, that's one difference between the two; .
Edited by cinema13 - 12/19/12 at 12:41am
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post #47 of 313
12/19/12 at 4:10am
Lotsa Bitstream audio dropouts on my OPPO 83. Had to switch to LPCM. I'm e-mailing OPPO today to see about a potential corrective firmware release. Haven't tried Nemo yet.
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post #48 of 313
12/19/12 at 5:11am
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post


Extended "Directors" Cut (because that will fix everything)
December 18th

Now that I've had a chance to get another look at the cover art, the expression on Colin Farrell's face looks like he's saying "I wonder if maybe I should stop off at Carl's Jr. for a bite to eat before I get my a** to Mars?...."

Apparently, the "go to" cover art is one large image of a person with two other shrunken people looking as if they're wondering if someone will notice that mustard stain on their shirt..
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post #49 of 313
12/19/12 at 5:48am
Watched part of the Blu Ray last night, and it had audio drop outs all over the place, so I switched to LPCM, and had none. I'm using a Sony 790 Blu Ray player, and an Onkyo 808 receiver.
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post #50 of 313
12/19/12 at 6:00am
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Originally Posted by badboi View Post

Pretty apparent that Dolby has changed the recipe somewhere along the lines and this is the result. I too have had issues with the lastest TrueHD discs (Walking Dead, Nemo, Brave). My Marantz AV7005 is up to date, as are my Oppo players. This shouldn't be an issue at this point in the game.
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I concur. This is something that should not be an issue at this juncture. This technology is mature. Regardless of the reason, this is poor quality control by Sony.
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post #51 of 313
12/19/12 at 6:38am
Greetings,

I mentioned in my review thread that I experienced only a single non-repeatable audio dropout during my evaluation using the Oppo BDP-103 (I didn't give it much thought since it was a single/brief instance that backtracking didn't replicate). After reading about the complaints regarding the multitude of the dropouts users are experiencing I watched about 40 minutes using my Panasonic DMP-BDT 310 player and didn't have any dropouts. confused.gif

Obviously this is little consolation to those have the problem but I wanted to report it just the same. Sorry guys..


Regards,
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post #52 of 313
12/19/12 at 6:45am
Even a single non-repeatable audio dropout is unacceptable to me. Especially if you have people over and during the dropout they say "remind me again how much $ you spent on this system" smile.gif
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post #53 of 313
12/19/12 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

Even a single non-repeatable audio dropout is unacceptable to me. Especially if you have people over and during the dropout they say "remind me again how much $ you spent on this system" smile.gif

Greetings,

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Good point John!

Regards,
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post #54 of 313
12/19/12 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

Even a single non-repeatable audio dropout is unacceptable to me. Especially if you have people over and during the dropout they say "remind me again how much $ you spent on this system" smile.gif

This. x1,000

Makes me want to say that even if I'm watching a movie by myself.
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post #55 of 313
12/19/12 at 1:43pm
Had A Redbox rental, bitstreaming from my Sony 590 to Onkyo receiver and had dropouts all over the place. As suggested seems the TrueHD bitstreaming is the culprit! Maybe they need to go back to DTSMA if they can't get. 7.1 bitstreaming to work! No reason one should have to change to PCM for a few titles!

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post #56 of 313
12/19/12 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by davcole View Post

No reason one should have to change to PCM for a few titles!
Especially when some of us can not change to multichannel PCM.
My player (Sony BDP-S360) has an option only for 2-channel PCM downmix, and I don't think Yamaha RX-V465 receiver has any settings that would tell the player to decode. If someone knows how to do that, I'd appreciate it.
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post #57 of 313
12/19/12 at 4:03pm
I am having audio dropouts with this as well almost right from the start with a Denon Bluray player and Denon receiver. I tried my PS3 slim bitstream but haven't had any yet

Normally when there are audio dropouts with bitstream the issue is with the receiver not the player especially if switching to PCM resolves it. Thats how it was with the Star Wars discs anyway.

I noticed in the information bar on my Denon the audio is listed as Dolby TrueHD Multi instead of 5.1 like it normally is listed and I'm betting this has something to do with it
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post #58 of 313
12/19/12 at 4:16pm
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i have not had a single drop out on a disc yet, but just bought a new receiver..... worried now!
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post #59 of 313
12/19/12 at 4:22pm
This happens with new releases every now n then. The Star Wars box set was a disaster for most people that required firmware updates for their receiver with some like Onkyo taking forever to release them.

I'm getting a lot with my Denon 1611 but none yet playing on my PS3 both set to Bistream so maybe this is a player issue
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post #60 of 313
12/19/12 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by T-smith View Post

This happens with new releases every now n then. The Star Wars box set was a disaster for most people that required firmware updates for their receiver with some like Onkyo taking forever to release them.
I'm getting a lot with my Denon 1611 but none yet playing on my PS3 both set to Bistream so maybe this is a player issue

Yep I agree there.

And you are right but there used to have QA departments at these places didn't they?
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