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post #91 of 338
Zero issues, audio or video, on all my newest BD's, Total Recall, Finding Nemo and Brave
All played flawless through my 4 year old Yamaha RX-V3900 that's never had a firmware update.
My old fat PS3 doing the decoding and sending LPCM via HDMI. Dual HDMI display outs (Kuro plasma/Epson projector)

All my gear is at least 4 years old, only the PS3 gets regular firmware updates.

My steelbook edition...extended directors cut.

Edited by PioManiac - 12/22/12 at 8:48am
post #92 of 338
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Originally Posted by PioManiac View Post

Zero issues, audio or video, on all my newest BD's, Total Recall, Finding Nemo and Brave
All played flawless through my 4 year old Yamaha RX-V3900 that's never had a firmware update.
My old fat PS3 doing the decoding and sending LPCM via HDMI. Dual HDMI display outs (Kuro plasma/Epson projector)
All my gear is at least 4 years old, only the PS3 gets regular firmware updates.
My steelbook edition...extended directors cut.
Of course you didn't have audio issues, there are issues only when bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD to the receiver. I don't think anyone one has had any issues when sending PCM.
Edited by Mikke73 - 12/22/12 at 9:36am
post #93 of 338
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Originally Posted by Mikke73 View Post

Of course you didn't have audio issues, there are issues only when bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD to the receiver. I don't think anyone one has had any issues when sending PCM.

 

Sorry, but you are wrong,

There are users still experiencing audio drop outs even after switching from bitstreaming to LPCM

 http://www.avsforum.com/t/1413202/finding-nemo/90#post_22725020

 

I dont have a Bitstream capable player, but from what i've read other Yamaha RX-V3900 owners

(with Sony BD players) have no drop outs while bitstreaming

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Rich86 View Post


My wife and I just got through watching the "Brave" 2d Dolby TrueHD blu-ray on our system (Sony BDP-S1000es to Yamaha RX-V3900 via hdmi). We thoroughly enjoyed the title - and it played perfectly - absolutely no problems with either video or audio - no audio dropouts..
post #94 of 338
Had a few drop outs with my pan 220 and denon 4311ci.
post #95 of 338
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Originally Posted by eddieb187 View Post

I used the BDT110 to an Onkyo 709 and it played fine.
Do you have the latest firmware on your 110???
I did have dropout with the OPPO 83 same receiver though.
I wonder exactly what is causing this.
I'm sure we'll find out soon.

Hi eddieb187,

Yes, in fact I paused the movie, went out to the BDT110's setup menu and told it to do an update right then. But it came back saying that it had the latest version.

Reading the posts seems to indicate an inconsistant occurance from model to model and even in some cases within the same models. Not bad enough to return the disc but still rather annoying!

Gerry
post #96 of 338
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Originally Posted by PioManiac View Post

Sorry, but you are wrong,
There are users still experiencing audio drop outs even after switching from bitstreaming to LPCM
 http://www.avsforum.com/t/1413202/finding-nemo/90#post_22725020
No I am not wrong, since this discussion is about Total Recall 2012.

Other movies - not relevant here.
Edited by Mikke73 - 12/22/12 at 2:00pm
post #97 of 338
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Originally Posted by Gerryex View Post

Hi eddieb187,
Yes, in fact I paused the movie, went out to the BDT110's setup menu and told it to do an update right then. But it came back saying that it had the latest version.
Reading the posts seems to indicate an inconsistant occurance from model to model and even in some cases within the same models. Not bad enough to return the disc but still rather annoying!
Gerry

May be the pairing with the Onkyo 705 and BDT110.
My BDT110 doesn't drop audio paired with my Onkyo 709. I wonder why???
If I play it in my OPPO 83 paired with Onkyo 709 all kinds of audio glitches.
I tried it again before and at one point the audio drops out altogether and did not come back.
I turned off the receiver and back on then audio returned.
My PS3 slim does not have any dropouts bitsteaming to an Onkyo 605 either.
I guess it's bitstreaming mostly and certain components paired that exhibit the issue.
No doubt something Sony did different in Authoring this disc.
Copy protection is usually the motivation here.
post #98 of 338
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Originally Posted by eddieb187 View Post

May be the pairing with the Onkyo 705 and BDT110.
. . .

Hi eddieb187,

I think you're right. I went ahead and sent in a trouble report to Panny as although its most likely something Sony did its still probably up to the player manufacturers to come up with a firmware update to account for it. I'll post any info I get from Panny.

Gerry
post #99 of 338
Thread Starter 
Its weird there must be some paring issue between select amps and players, plus the branching for example my old crappy amp no drop outs, but my new one, it goes....
post #100 of 338
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Originally Posted by PioManiac View Post

Sorry, but you are wrong,
There are users still experiencing audio drop outs even after switching from bitstreaming to LPCM
 http://www.avsforum.com/t/1413202/finding-nemo/90#post_22725020

I dont have a Bitstream capable player, but from what i've read other Yamaha RX-V3900 owners
(with Sony BD players) have no drop outs while bitstreaming

Just keep in mind that I was only commenting on "Brave" - which played perfectly. I do not have the new "Total Recall", so I can't test bitstreaming it.
Update: I can now also report that "Finding Nemo" (2D) Dolby TrueHD also plays perfectly with our system - Sony BDP-S1000ES to Yamaha RX-V3900. No audio dropouts at all.
Edited by Rich86 - 12/24/12 at 12:27pm
post #101 of 338
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Originally Posted by butsu View Post

play fine with DENON dbt3313 and a few audio drop on OPPO 93,105.

I watched again on Denon 2500bt (transport player ) no audio dropout at all.
post #102 of 338
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Originally Posted by eddieb187 View Post


Copy protection is usually the motivation here.

Maybe your right as my Oppo bdp 93 was riddled with audio dropouts but my denon 2500 bt which hasn't had an upgrade in the last 2-3 years works perfect.
post #103 of 338
geoffreyc switched to pcm on Brave and that fixed his drop out issues.
But when he switched to pcm from bitstream on Finding Nemo (Oppo player) he still experienced audio dropouts.
Regardless of title, all new DD TrueHD BD's have reported issues with multiple players and/or receivers
Whether some people think it's "relevant" or not, the common denominator is TrueHD on the latest releases.

Oppo players seem to have the most issues when paired with Onkyo AVR's from what I've read,
some players even within the same product line are producing diferent results (like Panasonic)
Then there are also other factors such as HDMI vs Analogue vs Optical, different region codes for BD's
throw Bitstream and PCM into the mix and there are literally hundreds of possible permutations.
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Originally Posted by geoffreyc View Post

I tried the player decoding option with my Oppo 93 and Yamaha RX-A2010 - didn't make any difference unlike when the same thing happened with Brave (which did..

I asked if he had tried Total Recall yet and he said he wont even buy it with so many complaints posted.

My point was that I have no issues with my player or reciever, and although using LPCM may reduce the chances of audio drop outs for many,
its certainly been proven its no guarantee for every player/AVR combo on every disc. To say otherwise would be a gross assumption unless some one tested every possible combo.

smile.gif
Edited by PioManiac - 12/22/12 at 6:32pm
post #104 of 338
I think Sony should fix this issue and send out replacements.
post #105 of 338
I received this reply from OPPO customer service.
It appears they are aware of the issue.


Eddie,

This is a known issue with the current release of Total Recall which is affecting other players as well. Likely this issue will be resolved with a new release of the Blu-ray, and possibly our own firmware, but in the interim you will need to use LPCM for this film.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119
post #106 of 338
I am also sufferring audio drop out

First noticed it on Brave (US Disc) TrueHD
Secondly on Finding Nemo (US Disc) TrueHD
Thirdly on Total Recall (2012) HMV Exclusive - TrueHD

Equiptment

Yamaha V671 Amp (firmware 1.18) with Cambridge Audio 650BD Blu-ray player (latest firmware) connected with HDMI 1.4 compliant lead

Setup is set to bitstream on the blu-ray player.

Things like this are annoying as we are paying good money for these products and getting inferior releases

All my other 300 odd films play fine, only these new releases are having issues

Any help would be great
post #107 of 338
Played Total Recall last evening and experienced Dolby TrueHD dropouts numerous times. Length of time on the dropouts was variable, but never a hiccup with the video which was excellent. Switched my OPPO BDP83 to LPCM and no further issues. Audio was being fed to a Marantz AV8003 when I had the dropouts. This is the first time I ran into this problem on my Marantz decoding a bitstream feed since i bought it a few years ago.
post #108 of 338
Does the Netflix version have this issue? I was thinking of getting it but deleted it off my queue. No reason to see a remake of a classic movie.
post #109 of 338
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Kascnef82 View Post

Does the Netflix version have this issue? I was thinking of getting it but deleted it off my queue. No reason to see a remake of a classic movie.

All discs worldwide Rental and Retail
post #110 of 338
Probab
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

All discs worldwide Rental and Retail
maybe ill wait until I see it on starz.
post #111 of 338
Thread Starter 
I wouldn't bother
post #112 of 338
Sony BDP-S590 to Onkyo TX-NR515 via hdmi (both with latest firmware)

Audio drop outs every 30-90 sec when set to TrueHD mode- unwatchable.
Zero issues after changing to PCM multichannel.

There should be a REKALL on this disc (and every other disc having these drop outs)
post #113 of 338
This movie has more lens flare in it than should be allowed in a dozen movies. There's scenes where a characters is briefly delivering expository, static camera position, and suddenly there's lens flare. WTF.

Here's an edit of 9m04s of lens flare from the movie. It starts with lens flare over the credits.
post #114 of 338
I made it 1:16 into that compilation before I quit in disgust. It makes JJ's use of lens flare look positively conservative.
post #115 of 338
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Originally Posted by Deviation View Post

I made it 1:16 into that compilation before I quit in disgust. It makes JJ's use of lens flare look positively conservative.
I have said in the OTHER forum ALFS is one of the most horrible curses on movies today....mad.gif
post #116 of 338
Remember 2009 Star Trek which I loved had several flares which almost made it unwatchable. ps Super 8 was bad too.
post #117 of 338
I hate those lens flares it just kills the movie. mad.gif
post #118 of 338
I am currently watching Total Recall BR from Redbox with my Oppo 93 thru my Integra 80.2 and it is droppin like crazy.
post #119 of 338
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

Remember 2009 Star Trek which I loved had several flares which almost made it unwatchable. ps Super 8 was bad too.

Seriously never watch Die Hard again, you will go blind
post #120 of 338
UK disc constantly dropping on the Cambridge Audio 650BD with Yamaha V671, totally unwatchable. Returning it the day after boxing day as a faulty disc to HMV
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