Originally Posted by Alec88
I'm sure I can hear a difference. like I'm sure I can hear a difference between 256kbps digital audio files and CD audio. And there have been double-blind tests done over the years where people couldn't tell the difference between compressed audio and CD sound.
Very different issues. The mp3 process changes the actual audio waveform to a degree that increases with decreasing bit rates, so there are cases when even high-rate mp3 files can be audibly different from the original CD. There are so many variables in the mp3 codec process that are available to the person ripping the file that to say "people couldn't tell the difference between compressed audio and CD sound" is huge generalization, and not a valid statement 100% of the time. The results of many of the tests you refer to exhibit a typical bell-curve statistical distribution. In addition, there's conditioning. Once you've heard what a bad mp3 sounds like, and it bothers you, you can't ever not hear it and become more sensitized to the effect.
Originally Posted by Alec88
If I didn't like what I heard I would've simply used the 12 AWG zip cord for my entire system.
But for the sake of argument could you explain why I shouldn't hear a difference? I've read a few speaker cable articles that explain things like resistance, capacitance, skin effect, etc. Any professional tests that analyze sound from a certain distance. Graphs?
(heavy sigh) Welcome to the longest running debate in the history of recorded sound. There are no scientific reasons that generic 12 ga zip cord would sound any different from an exotic 12ga cable. But there are dozens of psychological reasons why the might, and the key point is, they are valid reasons too. Perception is a combination of stimulus, sensory mechanisms, and psychological influence (such as expectation, though that's only one). You can't have perception without all three unless you deliberately blind yourself to one or two of them, such as in a double-blind test (which no exotic cable manufacturer would agree to submit too...wonder why).
You also have to make sure you're comparing apples and apples, or in this case, 12ga wire and 12ga wire. If the basic size and composition is the same, there will be no difference. Some exotics, for example, are deliberately under sized, or made in a way that increases an electrical property that results in modification of the waveform delivered to the speakers. You can have wire that results in audible changes, but those of use analytical folk consider them just bad wire, while the less analytical consider them valid sonic modifiers. I'm sure the afore-posted links go into deep detail. I'm thinking of the widely spaced conductors in the coat-hanger type wire somebody is offering as exotic speaker wire. Thinner than 12ga, so the resistance is higher, and spacing conductors raises inductance. That's not what we usually want from wire, but somebody might like what it does for a certain speaker. You may also like your red-tinted sunglasses, but they aren't letting you see true color. That doesn't mean you don't like them, though.
But assuming no deliberate silliness, 12ga wire, expensive or cheap, will sound the same.Edited by has7738 - 9/28/12 at 9:26pm