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post #121 of 407
I'm surprised by how many of you seem concerned with network functions and nothing else. When I purchased this receiver, I couldnt care less about this. I would think that if someone wanted to stream music theyd use a device far capable of doing so and not a receiver. I've bitched about the receiver downmixing 5.1 flac/aac/wav to stereo but nobody seems to care (not to mention the other 4 of 5 features Pioneer dropped for this new line of receivers).
Edited by JZ1276 - 1/3/13 at 1:05am
post #122 of 407
I'm thinking of getting this to replace my VSX-01TXH.
I don't care at all about the network service.
I dont use iDevices so couldn't care less about airplay features.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find a 7.1 Pioneer receiver without these features these days.
All I care about is the sound, seems to be good from reading this thread.
Also, I would like actual on-screen display, meaning if I raise the volume, I want to see it on the screen just like raising the actual tv volume would show. My current receiver apparently does this is you connect it to a pioneer tv. I won't be connecting to a pioneer tv.
Another thing that hopefully a current owner can answer, my VSX-01 takes over 10 seconds to switch between hdmi inputs, kinda unacceptable. How fast does this one switch?
Can anyone suggest another 7.1(2) avr without the network stuff?
post #123 of 407
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Originally Posted by Frunple View Post

I'm thinking of getting this to replace my VSX-01TXH.
I don't care at all about the network service.
I dont use iDevices so couldn't care less about airplay features.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find a 7.1 Pioneer receiver without these features these days.
All I care about is the sound, seems to be good from reading this thread.
Also, I would like actual on-screen display, meaning if I raise the volume, I want to see it on the screen just like raising the actual tv volume would show. My current receiver apparently does this is you connect it to a pioneer tv. I won't be connecting to a pioneer tv.
Another thing that hopefully a current owner can answer, my VSX-01 takes over 10 seconds to switch between hdmi inputs, kinda unacceptable. How fast does this one switch?
Can anyone suggest another 7.1(2) avr without the network stuff?

I don't think that you are going to find ANY AVR receivers that do not have the "network stuff" entirely, as almost every receiver has this functionality now. That being said, just don't use them if you don't need them. I own this receiver and it does not display the current volume level on the TV when you are changing channels. It displays this information only on the receivers display. I cannot comment on the HDMI switching, as I only have one HDMI input at the moment.
post #124 of 407
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I read it. I still returned it after owning it for 8 hours. The online streaming apps didn't work correctly. This was prior to the FW update. I am not sure if this was fixed yet.

GusGus748s: Why do you continue to post on this forum? You have mentioned probably half a dozen times that you returned this unit after 8 hours of ownership (which, btw, is not enough time to truly know if this receiver is right for you, imho) and it was completely clear that ss9001 was not referring to you at all and was talking to jwmcneill. I don't mean to be rude, but you are providing zero constructive comments to this thread by just re-iterating the fact that you don't know this product at all (because you have only owned/used it for <8 hours).
post #125 of 407
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Originally Posted by Billy Gardiner View Post

I don't think that you are going to find ANY AVR receivers that do not have the "network stuff" entirely, as almost every receiver has this functionality now. That being said, just don't use them if you don't need them. I own this receiver and it does not display the current volume level on the TV when you are changing channels. It displays this information only on the receivers display. I cannot comment on the HDMI switching, as I only have one HDMI input at the moment.

Yes, obviously I wouldn't use the "network stuff" if I didn't want to , I would think that's called common sense but I was asking to see if Pioneer still makes another model without it as I can't seem to find one. What they need to do is make a receiver with Google TV built into it so GTV would be available from any input. That I would buy in a heartbeat.
I assume you mean it doesn't display volume when changing the volume?? Wouldn't want to see it when changing channels anyway.
Thanks for the info

Anyone else have 2 HDMI inputs that can give me the switching time?
post #126 of 407
For what it's worth, the ControlApp for iOS or Android does provide volume feedback and can act as a remote control for many (but not all) functions. While this isn't what you asked for, if you have an iPhone, iPad, or Android phone, it might be a good surrogate for on-screen feedback.

Regarding switching, I don't have two HDMI sources, but between component and HDMI inputs the switching can take 3-5 seconds for audio and video to fully switch over. The switching speed and startup time are my only complaints with this receiver, but I'm otherwise pretty happy with it considering the features at this price point.

For those asking about the Pandora and Internet Radio, these work fine with the new firmware. Also, there is a built-in web server that allows modifying the network settings from a computer so you don't have to use the clunky remote-based input.
Edited by schaffman5 - 12/31/12 at 11:45am
post #127 of 407
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

no offense but don't some of you bother to actually read the manual or look at the diagrams & descriptions? rolleyes.gif good grief...
no, the Receiver button has NOTHING to do with the setup menu. if you can't figure out that the HOME MENU & TOOLS buttons which are clearly marked on your remote and clearly described in the manual are the menu buttons...what can I say? other than good luck figuring out how to use the receiver wink.gif The Receiver button allows the remote to do control various functions. Take the time to read the manual.
page 9 has the remote diagram and CLEAR description that Home Menu goes to setup with a link to page 46 for more info. I don't own your specific model but downloaded the manual & found the page numbers in about 30 seconds. It's not that hard...

Actually I've been reading the manual cover to cover for days. I have to say that when a manual on page 39 references something on page 41 it could use some refinement. Coupled that with following the manual to the letter and not seeing the proscribed output on the unit's display, is giving me pause.

That said, I suddenly lost network connectivity a few hours ago and as always my remote button pushing doesn't correspond to the manual (or at least my interpretation of the manual). I have to say this is extremely frustrating. I don't/can't have a tv monitor connected to this unit. I tried a new TV yesterday but still no joy. Using the remote alone, I can't get to the network setup (NetRadio, HomeMenu leads to nothing on the unit's display). Of course, the Pioneer folks are off today. So much for music at tonight's New Year's Eve gathering. I reset the internet switch, tried the former DHCP address, but no luck in locating the unit on the network. I am tempted to flash the firmware again but really, it shouldn't behave this way. When I first hit the NetRadio/HomeMenu buttons "Cant Sel" appeared on the screen. Now nothing. Even the iOS Control AV app can't locate the unit.

So far:

1. Haven't been able to hear any music from the CD Input (hooked up to the Logitech Media Server via Duet)
2. Per manual, Speaker B doesn't drive subwoofer (which limits the usefulness of my speaker switch)
3. Network radio ID is allusive. Can't bring it up on the unit.
4. Won't output to my HDTV (which works perfectly with my Yamaha unit) nor a new Vizio TV

I am beginning to lose confidence in the robustness of the unit.


UPDATE: I tried setting the unit to a static IP below my DHCP range on the cable modem router. I then connected and reconnected the ethernet cable. Finally I turned the power off to the receiver by unplugging it. I plugged it back in. I now have internet access back, although I am not sure which operation accomplished that. My cable modem shows the Pioneer at the new address although it shows it as "DHCP" with an adress below where my DHCP addresses start (at the address I chose and assigned the MAC Address to). Curious.
Edited by anjenaire - 12/31/12 at 12:08pm
post #128 of 407
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Originally Posted by Billy Gardiner View Post

GusGus748s: Why do you continue to post on this forum? You have mentioned probably half a dozen times that you returned this unit after 8 hours of ownership (which, btw, is not enough time to truly know if this receiver is right for you, imho) and it was completely clear that ss9001 was not referring to you at all and was talking to jwmcneill. I don't mean to be rude, but you are providing zero constructive comments to this thread by just re-iterating the fact that you don't know this product at all (because you have only owned/used it for <8 hours).

I apologize if I hurt your feelings for posting the truth about this unit. The Network applications for this unit do not work, and if you get them to work they eventually stop working. It doesn't take me days to find out if something is going to work. I gave this unit 8 hours, and within those 8 hours I tried everything that I know to make it work, which it didn't happened. However, I will stop posting on this thread since most likely your are a Pioneer affiliate / rep.rolleyes.gif
post #129 of 407
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Originally Posted by schaffman5 View Post

..... For those asking about the Pandora and Internet Radio, these work fine with the new firmware. Also, there is a built-in web server that allows modifying the network settings from a computer so you don't have to use the clunky remote-based input.

Which network settings can be changed? While I can change the "friendly" name and input my Pandora account info, that is about it unless there is another web page I am missing. I am just inputting the ip address of the unit: http:// 192.168.1.88 that translates into: http://192.168.1.88/1000/system_information.asp . Is there another PC friendly page that is accessible?


post #130 of 407
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Originally Posted by SBI View Post

.... I'll certainly try again but I am not willing to live with it like this. I bought this unit, as well as another one if I have to, for purpose of all these features (and the networking in particular) to work flawlessly.

I hear you. I've started to have network connectivity issues See above). While I was listening to net radio via Airplay (through iTunes) the receiver suddenly loss network connectivity. No one else was using the network at the time so I am scratching my head. I am going to continue to monitor this. This kind of behavior is what I was trying to avoid. I have had similar issues with my Squeezebox Duet. If I have to turn power off and fiddle with the router/switch, then I think the network function isn't ready for prime time.
post #131 of 407
Nope, that's it (at least in the latest firmware revision). If you tried entering this info via the IR remote, you'll appreciate the minimal web interface. The built-in GUI (via HDMI) leaves a lot to be desired....especially considering this info is wiped out when you do a firmware update.

The "real" network settings (e.g. IP address, subnet, etc) can be modified with the built-in GUI or the ControlApp iOS/Android software.

GusGus748s: The network content (Pandora/internet radio) does indeed work with the latest firmware. Perhaps when you tried, you were using the older version.
post #132 of 407
Hi,
I got a problem with my 1022, since 2 weeks, I'm unable to open the unit with remote! I'm able to open with button in front of the receiver and after that the remote work well and i can close the receiver withnthe remote! Anyone have an idea why this behavior?

Anyone know how to hard reset the receiver?

Best regards,
Edited by theflamme99 - 12/31/12 at 2:41pm
post #133 of 407
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Originally Posted by schaffman5 View Post

For what it's worth, the ControlApp for iOS or Android does provide volume feedback and can act as a remote control for many (but not all) functions. While this isn't what you asked for, if you have an iPhone, iPad, or Android phone, it might be a good surrogate for on-screen feedback.
Regarding switching, I don't have two HDMI sources, but between component and HDMI inputs the switching can take 3-5 seconds for audio and video to fully switch over. The switching speed and startup time are my only complaints with this receiver, but I'm otherwise pretty happy with it considering the features at this price point.
For those asking about the Pandora and Internet Radio, these work fine with the new firmware. Also, there is a built-in web server that allows modifying the network settings from a computer so you don't have to use the clunky remote-based input.

Thanks for the info. I was actually talking about switching from hdmi to hdmi. That's why I couldn't believe the lag I have but I guess it still has to "figure out" what the signal is because of upconverting.
I think I'm gonna go with it!
post #134 of 407
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Originally Posted by theflamme99 View Post

Hi,
I got a problem with my 1022, since 2 weeks, I'm unable to open the unit with remote! I'm able to open with button in front of the receiver and after that the remote work well and i can close the receiver withnthe remote! Anyone have an idea why this behavior?
Anyone know how to hard reset the receiver?
Best regards,

maybe this? check the pages in your own model's manual about setting the remote & receiver ID's
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448278/vsx-1122-doe-not-recognize-any-remote-control/0_100

this solved the poster's problem - worthwhile to see if it's your problem, too
post #135 of 407
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Originally Posted by anjenaire View Post

Which network settings can be changed? While I can change the "friendly" name and input my Pandora account info, that is about it unless there is another web page I am missing. I am just inputting the ip address of the unit: http:// 192.168.1.88 that translates into: http://192.168.1.88/1000/system_information.asp . Is there another PC friendly page that is accessible?

+1 I'll be interested to know this as well:
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Originally Posted by schaffman5 View Post

Also, there is a built-in web server that allows modifying the network settings from a computer so you don't have to use the clunky remote-based input.
post #136 of 407
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Originally Posted by Frunple View Post

Also, I would like actual on-screen display, meaning if I raise the volume, I want to see it on the screen just like raising the actual tv volume would show. My current receiver apparently does this is you connect it to a pioneer tv.

It does...depends on the TV I guess. I have a Sharp LC-60LE847U and when the receiver is on, it shows Aquos Speaker system is OFF and it shows the volume display from the receiver on the TV. If you disconnect the receiver, it shows "Aquos Speaker System is ON" and then your sound is coming from the TV's speakers.
post #137 of 407
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Originally Posted by maninh2o View Post

Hey guys - new here. Long time lurker. Anyway just got this receiver couple weeks ago.
I have TIVO HD, Blu Player, and XBOX hooked up so far. Tivo and Xbox seem to be fine however I'm seeing video 'black out' or drop for 2-5 seconds randomly when watching DVDs. During this time audio is fine. Any ideas? Anyone have similar experience? I have HDMI connections for everything.
And another question - maybe a dumb one - what kind of connections are needed to take advantage of the pass-thru. Meaning how to use Tivo without turning on the receiver if I wanted. Since right now I only have 1 HDMI going into the TV I don't know how that works(because on my tv there is only 1 input available - HDMI)

I also have the same issue while watching Blu-rays on a Sony Blu-ray player. This does not happen at all with my cable signal, also using HDMI.
post #138 of 407
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Originally Posted by SBI View Post

It does...depends on the TV I guess. I have a Sharp LC-60LE847U and when the receiver is on, it shows Aquos Speaker system is OFF and it shows the volume display from the receiver on the TV. If you disconnect the receiver, it shows "Aquos Speaker System is ON" and then your sound is coming from the TV's speakers.

Good to know! I'm actually looking at a new Aquos now.
Thanks!
post #139 of 407
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Originally Posted by Frunple View Post

I'm thinking of getting this to replace my VSX-01TXH.
I don't care at all about the network service.
I dont use iDevices so couldn't care less about airplay features.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find a 7.1 Pioneer receiver without these features these days.
All I care about is the sound, seems to be good from reading this thread.
Also, I would like actual on-screen display, meaning if I raise the volume, I want to see it on the screen just like raising the actual tv volume would show. My current receiver apparently does this is you connect it to a pioneer tv. I won't be connecting to a pioneer tv.
Another thing that hopefully a current owner can answer, my VSX-01 takes over 10 seconds to switch between hdmi inputs, kinda unacceptable. How fast does this one switch?
Can anyone suggest another 7.1(2) avr without the network stuff?

DO NOT do it!! I switched from my 1010AH to this one and it was a huge mistake. I just purchased a VSX-91TXH used off ebay to replace it. Check my above posts for my reasons.
post #140 of 407
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Originally Posted by Frunple View Post

Good to know! I'm actually looking at a new Aquos now.
Thanks!
See; http://pioneer.jp/homeav/support/hdmi_cec/
For a list of compatible TV's and other equippement with Pioneer receivers smile.gif These are 'tested' and they work with the Kuro Link from Pioneer (HDMI CEC or HDMI Control).
post #141 of 407
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Originally Posted by Prietz0r View Post

See; http://pioneer.jp/homeav/support/hdmi_cec/
For a list of compatible TV's and other equippement with Pioneer receivers smile.gif These are 'tested' and they work with the Kuro Link from Pioneer (HDMI CEC or HDMI Control).

Looks like an outdated listed because neither the 1022 nor the LE847U are listed here and it does work.
post #142 of 407
the 1022 doesn't have the same menu of th 1122. I'm unable to find the right menu but the problem seem to be like mine!
post #143 of 407
Hello,
I purchased the vsx-1022-k on 12/26/2012 and everything worked great until this morning. When I turned on my receiver I got zero sound while watching cable tv. I run my cable box through the receiver via HDMI to my tv, last night everything worked fine and this morning I got video but no audio, anybody seen this before? I swapped out the cable box with no change, I then simply moved the HDMI cable from the SAT/CAB input to the DVD input and everything works fine, the tuner and BlueRay channels all work just fine. I think the channel is screwed up after less than 6 days of operation. Anybody have any suggestions to try and diagnos this better? Thanks -
post #144 of 407
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Originally Posted by rosco427 View Post

Hello,
I purchased the vsx-1022-k on 12/26/2012 and everything worked great until this morning. When I turned on my receiver I got zero sound while watching cable tv. I run my cable box through the receiver via HDMI to my tv, last night everything worked fine and this morning I got video but no audio, anybody seen this before? I swapped out the cable box with no change, I then simply moved the HDMI cable from the SAT/CAB input to the DVD input and everything works fine, the tuner and BlueRay channels all work just fine. I think the channel is screwed up after less than 6 days of operation. Anybody have any suggestions to try and diagnos this better? Thanks -

Try to reset the unit, or even unplug from the power and re-plug and see how it is.
post #145 of 407
Hi

Just purchased a VSX-1022-k Pioneer Receiver and had a question.

Old system was a Sony and it had a setting of AFD Auto for sound. What is the equivalent setting on this system so that the sound is produced based on the source(pass through). Also, I used the MCACC set-up but It didn't do a very good job. Is it better to manually set the speakers the way they should be or do you think I should try running the set-up again?
post #146 of 407
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Originally Posted by SBI View Post

Looks like an outdated listed because neither the 1022 nor the LE847U are listed here and it does work.
It is yes smile.gif
See in the right top corner for the date it was last updated.
But it gives you at least a idea, nearly all current TV-sets from Panasonic and Sharp are supported, which is no real surprise of course because Sharp has quite a lot of stake in Pioneer. And Pioneer has quite a tight relationship with Panasonic due to their Plasma history together.
post #147 of 407
I purchased my VSX-1022 about two months ago. I struggled with the network functions and I think I finally have everything working. Here is a summary of what I did. Hopefully this will help others.

1. Installed the latest firmware (first attempt failed and changing the flash drive was the solution). Pandora works great.
2. I changed the configuration on my D-Link DIR-655 router numerous times but internet radio would quit working frequently. I Installed a Netgear WNDR3800 router and still had issues. Found the CAT5 cable to the VSX-1022 was miswired. Fixing this significantly improved the internet radio connection.
3. Monitored netradio connection using pingplotter (free version) and found most problems originated in my router or the internet source. Netradio now works for very long periods without failing. Switching to another source e.g. Sat/Cbl and back to network function usually reconnects.
4. Sometimes it is necessary to unplug the power to the VSX-1022 to re-establish network connection. This was usually associated with some unusual troubleshooting activities.
5. Network connection to my PC seems to work but I have not listened to music for long periods via this connection.
6. After frequent failures initially the ControlApp (Android version) appears to work well.

I am finally able to listen to internet radio. For older guys like me this has replaced FM radio as a source of new music and artists. Pandora seems more robust than a random internet radio station.

I am now a pseudo router expert because I miswired the CAT5 cable(one colored pair is SUPPOSED to be mismatched) smile.gif
post #148 of 407
Frunple,

What did you decide to do with your VSX-01TXH. I too am looking to replace that model of receiver but want something that is at least as good.
post #149 of 407
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post

I'm surprised by how many of you seem concerned with network functions and nothing else. When I purchased this receiver, I couldnt care less about this. I would think that if someone wanted to stream music theyd use a device far capable of doing so and not a receiver. I've bitched about the receiver downmixing 5.1 flac/aac/wav to stereo but nobody seems to care (not to mention the other 4 of 5 features Pioneer dropped for this new line of receivers).

Well I finally got the HDMI out work (see earlier comments regarding resetting the unit to factory default found on page 63 of the manual. For some reason, mine "came" from the factory with the HDMI in the "off" setting) and the vtuner code (I was able to eventually connect with a knowledgeable person at Pioneer support that confirmed that some settings on the menu REQUIRE the OSD function including the network functions). While I could care more about the network functions, I would tend to agree that after all that effort, I am a little underwhelmed by the implementation of the network functions. At least as far as I now understand them. AFAIK there is no way to control the Netradio stations from one's PC. You can add stations and favorites but the control must come either from the TV/remote interface or from the iOS/Android apps. Pioneer should rethink that and allow either an API for third party implementation or figure out a port like Yamaha did with the Android app. (http://yavc.codeplex.com/).

I am still not able to stream music with my Logitech Duet receiver. I can't get the unit to recognize the coax input. I have a theory that I might attempt to suss out this evening. As i understand it, one can either have the coax optical OR the Toslink optical but not both and my theory is that the CD can't have anything plugged into the analog inputs if you are attempting to use the optical inputs.

Besides the Duet receiver that has either optical or coax digital outputs, my old Sony CD player has either analog or Toslink outputs. So as I now understand it I won't be able to use both digital outputs into this Pioneer receiver. Tonight I will try and use the DVD analog input for the CD analogue outputs and leave the Duet as the lone digital input. For a unit that was originally close to $500, this seems like a real limiting feature set. I realize it is the HDMI and the use as a AV receiver that most people will employ for this receiver, but music only folks will be disappointed with this unit. I can't speak to the stereo downmixing as my flac files are only music files.
post #150 of 407
did you check the input setup to see if the assignment of digital inputs to labeled receiver inputs is what you want it to be? you should be able to get 2 separate inputs to work from 2 separate devices, if I understand you correctly. you can also connect both digital & analog from a device and use the audio signal selector to choose which one to use at any a particular time...it defaults to Auto which has a priority of using HDMI 1st, digital 2nd, analog 3rd.
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