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post #211 of 407
I bought this receiver around Christmas time and I have enjoyed it so far--the problem is I know I am missing out on a lot of the features. In other words I am really having a tough time with the manual, I have downloaded it to my IPAD but it is really confusing at times. So I have found this forum and you guys seem to explain things a little bit better than the manual. My first (of probably many) question is: the manual talks about the "up mix" function for 7.1 systems, it says to put the receiver in "standby" then hold down "preset -->" and standby for 2 seconds. What do they mean by putting the receiver in standby? I am confused on whether they mean off or some kind of pause mode any help is much appreciated. I have paired this receiver with a set of Andrew Jones developed Pioneers speakers, and am very pleased with my entry level system--my only problem is that my knowledge is also entry level as well.

Thanks,
Dave
post #212 of 407
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Originally Posted by muskie54540 View Post

I bought this receiver around Christmas time and I have enjoyed it so far--the problem is I know I am missing out on a lot of the features. In other words I am really having a tough time with the manual, I have downloaded it to my IPAD but it is really confusing at times. So I have found this forum and you guys seem to explain things a little bit better than the manual. My first (of probably many) question is: the manual talks about the "up mix" function for 7.1 systems, it says to put the receiver in "standby" then hold down "preset -->" and standby for 2 seconds. What do they mean by putting the receiver in standby? I am confused on whether they mean off or some kind of pause mode any help is much appreciated. I have paired this receiver with a set of Andrew Jones developed Pioneers speakers, and am very pleased with my entry level system--my only problem is that my knowledge is also entry level as well.

Thanks,
Dave

Standby = off.
post #213 of 407
I just had to mention something about the Pandora quality issues, if you've listened to Pandora for over the last year or more then you'd know that Pandora got rid of the free HD radio, they now require you to pay to get HD radio.

The radio on Pandora is now around medium quality at best it sounds like 96kbps and I doubt it's even that high, so the people I had seen towards the beginning of this thread messed up by returning the receiver because of this.

I used to listen to Pandora all the time and now I can barely stand it with a modded sound card and decent headset, without the sound card I'd listen to my saved music since it was that bad. In other words don't base your decision on this receiver on how well it plays Pandora, hook up a decent mp3 to test the sound quality unless you pay for Pandora.

Thanks for starting the thread op it helps people googling for more information on this receiver, just had to sign up to mention this since most people don't know.
post #214 of 407
I'm trying to figure out one thing that doesn't seem clear on this receiver. I see on the picture of the back of the receiver that there is a set of "B" speaker outputs. Is there a way on this receiver to run just the "B" zone without running the "A" zone? I plan to have speakers on the deck and want to be able to just run those at times. Thanks!
post #215 of 407
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Originally Posted by lakebum431 View Post

I'm trying to figure out one thing that doesn't seem clear on this receiver. I see on the picture of the back of the receiver that there is a set of "B" speaker outputs. Is there a way on this receiver to run just the "B" zone without running the "A" zone? I plan to have speakers on the deck and want to be able to just run those at times. Thanks!

Yes, if you just want to run the "B" set of speakers, you can do that. You can operate "A" and "B" or just "A" or just "B" . What you can't do is play something different on "A" and "B", it is the same source.
post #216 of 407
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Originally Posted by anjenaire View Post

Yes, if you just want to run the "B" set of speakers, you can do that. You can operate "A" and "B" or just "A" or just "B" . What you can't do is play something different on "A" and "B", it is the same source.

Perfect! Thanks for the quick response! And any source will play on "B"? I can't tell in the manual how to change between A and B. I'm probably just a dummy and missing it, but I would appreciate any help!
post #217 of 407
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Originally Posted by lakebum431 View Post

Perfect! Thanks for the quick response! And any source will play on "B"? I can't tell in the manual how to change between A and B. I'm probably just a dummy and missing it, but I would appreciate any help!

You can select between the speakers via a button/switch on the front and also via the remote. What you can't do, is use the iOS or Android app to do this! This is a big fail IMO and really a missing feature of the apps. I don't have any belief that Pioneer will add this to the feature set of this app/receiver combo and at least one third party developer doesn't think he will be able to add it. Oh well at least you can mute/turn on/off (if in network standby mode) as well as select input modes which would come in handy if you are listening out at the deck. I plan to install an outdoor speaker switch near my deck when the snow melts (Monoprice has a decently price unit).
post #218 of 407
What benefit does the outdoor speaker switch give you?
post #219 of 407
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Originally Posted by lakebum431 View Post

What benefit does the outdoor speaker switch give you?

I often play music in the house as well as the deck and the switch will give me the opportunity to raise and lower the volume on the deck and not change the main house volume. I also have a speaker selector switch with volume controls but i find if I am out on the deck then I often want to change the volume at that point. Mainly for large parties. Raise it higher for a song and not blast out the kitchen where other folks may be gathered. It would also give me the ability to make sure the volume is down to a minimum when I go inside in case I forget to turn off the speakers from the main speaker control. I have on occasion blasted the neighborhood inadvertently. I currently have speakers in the living room, kitchen and on the deck. Eventually will have the basement wired up as well.

That said, if you are only using the "B" zone for the deck and aren't using "A" and "B" at the same time, then remote iOS or Android app would suffice to do volume control (assuming your network is available on your deck -- given my home's construction, that is not always a given).
post #220 of 407
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Originally Posted by mrangus View Post

Use the ADV SURR button on the remote and slect EXT.STEREO. This will drive the subwoofer from a stereo source.

Does this work on the "B" zone? I have tried this only using the "B" speakers selected and I believe my subwoofer isn't passing on the signal. My default now is to have both the "A" and "B" speakers selected to drive the subwoofer. But I could be wrong and my hearing could be going.
post #221 of 407
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Originally Posted by robjenaki View Post

I'm having a interesting problem where Airplay does not show up anymore, it was working, then I switched ports on my router and set up MACC and something else??? Then Airplay disappeared from iPod and iPad.
I have since tried Factory Reset, then Firmware Upgrade, power off with unplug.... with no luck.
Pandora and NetRadio works fine as does the iControl App.
Still no Airplay.
Anybody have any other suggestions?
How is Pioneer support?

Their email support is mediocre - 28 hours to come back with a question about who my ISP was. I then replied but heard nothing back a day and a half later. So I called them and got connected in about 7 minutes. The tech's suggestion was to enable port 8102 on my router, which I did and after a reboot it came back! Interesting how it was working the first time out of the box before that port was enabled.....
post #222 of 407
Hi all, was hoping to get something clarified about this AVR. So, it can not do independent zones correct? Even with updated firmware? I won't be able to say, have a football game going in the living room, while listening to Network radio on the outdoor speakers? If so- I'll step up to the denon 1913 which is about 100 more- but prob worth it (I actually already have a 1913 in the media room, was hoping to go cheaper with the family room avr, but independent zones is a must).. Suggestions welcome!
post #223 of 407
I am seriously considering this receiver, as HH Gregg has it for $250 on sale. My Denon AVR 590 shot craps, so I need something similar, as in, I need to convert component to HDMI, this is the only inexpensive receiver I can find that does this. I am not the least bit concerned about the internet features, so the problems with that are no problem for me. So, to the folks that own it, how is the sound? I am not too concerned with how it does music, as it will be mainly used to watch Blu Rays, and TV.
post #224 of 407
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Originally Posted by BlakRam View Post

What is the best price you guys have found on this AVR? It's time to buy.

HH Gregg has it for less than $250 until the 16th. I am seriously considering it. I checked it out at the Chesterfield commons location tonight.,
post #225 of 407
does anyone use headphones with this avr? i'm looking for a new receiver around $300 for tv and movies at night and headphones in the morning. i bought an hk1700 but returned it because i'm hard of hearing and i had to turn up the volume to max and it was still not as loud as i needed.
post #226 of 407
Seriously considering this receiver, but I'm kind of back and forth between this and the 1122-k. I can get this for $120 cheaper than the 1122-k shipped from Amazon, and I'm nearly ready to pull the trigger.

I'm what I would consider a very novice audiophile, if even that, so I think this would be good for me. I don't think most of the more advanced features of the 1122 are things I would miss, because I pretty much want something I can hook my speakers up to, do the setup and leave it at that. On the other hand, I am kind of a "specs whore" so I can't quite bring myself to pull the trigger. The 1122 is in my original budget, but I just think for $120 cheaper, the 1022 would do the trick, and I guess I want some confirmation.

Internet streaming apps aren't too huge to me, I have a computer hooked up to it for now, though that could change, but I don't think there is much difference between the two there. Apple stuff means absolutely nothing to me, but I do have an HTC phone and like the HTC connect feature, which I don't think there is any difference between the two. I know the 1122 has a more advanced smartphone app, which I would like, but in the end I'm guessing most of the extra features are things I wouldn't really need, though I would like to know what the differences are to anyone who has used both.

Other additional features, like the second subwoofer output I probably will never use, I'm going to be using 5.1 speakers right now most likely, but will probably move to 7.1 in the future. The slightly higher power output probably won't matter, though someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm kinda between the Energy Take Classic 5.1 speaker set and the Pioneer SP-PK52FS set. There are other slightly upgraded features, but most are probably in the range of things I wouldn't use or miss, being a novice in this area.

The system will be hooked up to a PS3 (possibly changing to a PS4 or other next-gen console in the future), a Wii, a computer, and possibly a satellite system at some point. Based on all this, I think the 1022 would be a fine choice for me (and the savings would leave me room to purchase better speakers maybe), but I figured I would ask the the opinion of those who have used the systems to get a better idea. Thanks.
post #227 of 407
You can have the fronts set to 'large' and still get sound from the sub by using 'plus' for the speaker SW setting, instead of 'yes'. In most circumstances, it probably is best not to do this and to set the fronts as 'small', but sometimes 'large' might be better. I use 'large' because one of my subs has a broken line level input, and so I have to connect its high level inputs to the receiver's front speaker outputs. If I used the 'small' setting, bass frequencies wouldn't get routed to that sub.
post #228 of 407
Well I am in..... Just scored one of these for a song new in box.

I'll post back....

I do a lot of 3D, and a lot of Laserdisc still........

I'll put it through its' paces and post back.

96" 16:9 screen in my theater. I use an XA2 HD-DVD player for DVD and HD-DVD, a PS3 for Bluray and 3D Bluray, and a CLD-99 laserdisc player for LD's. I wanted the scaler because in the future I see analog inputs going away on displays completely.
post #229 of 407
Good afternoon. I'll apologize in advance for posting a question that may have been answered many times before. But, I'm at work for the next 10 hrs. and don't have time to read through or do a search. But, I just received my VSX-1022 and after a few hours of rerouting cables, finally got it going. Didn't have much time to play around with it, and reading the pdf file manual I printed out was not helpful. If I may I'd like to ask a few questions. The first being, this. I was under the impression that this receiver had a 5 band equalizer. If it does, would I have the ability to make any changes to it? And I guess the last question I had was regarding firmware. I went to the Pioneer website and downloaded a firmware update to my USB thumb drive. The file extension was something my Windows 7 pc did not recognize, I believe it was something like bcd extension. Can anyone help me with these issues?

Thanks!
post #230 of 407
On the previous page 7, post 188 the poster talks about the manual EQ some. Mine is on order so I have not had a chance to play with it yet. Here is a cut and paste of it.

Everyone has preferences. I beleive as for music the best audio comes when Stereo. I beleive Pandora if set to stereo you will get a better response on the bass.. Second is that you probably need a different EQ when listening music. Its not the same EQ as for movies. My recommendation is to set a new manual eq settings on one of the memory banks for just CDs, MP3, Pandora sources. Sometimes I have to raise the SW level 3 or 4dbs but his will also affects to all EQs; so best thing is to get a specific memory bank and setup the "V" Curve; then go to Standing Wave and setup SW TRIM and add "3dbs" to whatever value you have there. As for the "V" curve its trying to to a curve like the following settings on Left and Right Channel Only. Give this a try and let me know. I have a nice "V" curve at home; great for music; Im working right now; but I will try to plot it here" I can get my setup and post it later. So; do this Manual EQ on one of the Banks; add +3dbs on Standwing Wave; and let me know your results!

63Hz @ +4.0 db
125Hz @ +2.5 db
250Hz @ +1.0 db
500Hz @ -2.0 Db
1k @ -3.0 db
2k @ -2.0 db
4k @ +1.0 db
8k @ +2.0 db
16k @ +3.0 db
post #231 of 407
I purchased this receiver over the weekend, and was wondering if there are any recommendations as to which DLNA media server products work best with this receiver? The media server program I'm currently trying out is called TVmobili, but so far, from the receiver, I've only been able to play music files, and a couple video files are playing audio only - most don't seem to do anything. All the videos are h.264, and all played perfectly via XBMC running on my Apple TV (2gen).
Edited by toonr - 2/20/13 at 8:16am
post #232 of 407
Hi all. Thought I'd share a saga of a new receiver and an apparently bad HDMI board. Ordered the unit from newegg and received it a week ago. Made all of the connections, turned on the TV -- a 5 year old Olevia -- and could not get a hint of a video signal. Tried different HDMI cables, different inputs on the TV, resetting the receiver, unplugging the receiver, hitting the "receiver" then "home menu" buttons on the remote which worked for another poster, but no luck. Two other interesting behaviors:
- the little red light labeled "HDMI" to the right of the main display remains lit when the receiver is on but the TV is off, but when I power up the TV, the red light goes dark. Then as soon as I shut off the TV, the light comes on again.
- the receiver will play sound from the cable box -- via its HDMI input -- but if I try adjusting the volume, the sound cuts out.

Per the label, the unit was manufactured Aug 2012. I'm thinking this is just a bad unit. The feature set is perfect and the price was great, but I'm afraid of replacing it if these are unusually unreliable. Any experiences like these? I'd be grateful for any suggestions.
post #233 of 407
Hello all. Just got my 1022 yesterday. I'm loving the airplay feature, although it's still a little flaky so far.

I've been testing with a couple DVDs and some Roku streaming. I have a 4.1 system (L and R, with rear L and R, and a sub).

My question: is it possible to get phantom center sound during surround playback? Everything I've tried results in the movie dialog being very soft. I don't think the center channel audio is being routed to the L and R speakers.

I have the center speaker set as off.

Any help appreciated.
post #234 of 407
Hey guys

I recently purchased the VSX-1022 and I too have this very same problem. The video randomly drops out 2-5 seconds while watching any DVD. It does not happen with the DirecTV box. I contacted Pioneer and their support said that it was an attenuation problem between the receiver and the TV. They suggested turning off the video up conversion. Well, the up conversion was already turned off. As a work around, I have connected the HDMI from the DVD player directly to the TV and I am using the optical connection for the audio. I'd really like to get this working through the HDMI though as it provides DTS-HD. The optical only provides DTS.

Have you guys found a resolution for this problem?
post #235 of 407
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Originally Posted by RPGMasta View Post

I also have the same issue while watching Blu-rays on a Sony Blu-ray player. This does not happen at all with my cable signal, also using HDMI.

Hey guys

I recently purchased the VSX-1022 and I too have this very same problem. The video randomly drops out 2-5 seconds while watching any DVD. It does not happen with the DirecTV box. I contacted Pioneer and their support said that it was an attenuation problem between the receiver and the TV. They suggested turning off the video up conversion. Well, the up conversion was already turned off. As a work around, I have connected the HDMI from the DVD player directly to the TV and I am using the optical connection for the audio. I'd really like to get this working through the HDMI though as it provides DTS-HD. The optical only provides DTS.

Have you guys found a resolution for this problem?
post #236 of 407
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Originally Posted by maninh2o View Post

Hey guys - new here. Long time lurker. Anyway just got this receiver couple weeks ago.

I have TIVO HD, Blu Player, and XBOX hooked up so far. Tivo and Xbox seem to be fine however I'm seeing video 'black out' or drop for 2-5 seconds randomly when watching DVDs. During this time audio is fine. Any ideas? Anyone have similar experience? I have HDMI connections for everything.

Hey guys

I recently purchased the VSX-1022 and I too have this very same problem. The video randomly drops out 2-5 seconds while watching any DVD. It does not happen with the DirecTV box. I contacted Pioneer and their support said that it was an attenuation problem between the receiver and the TV. They suggested turning off the video up conversion. Well, the up conversion was already turned off. As a work around, I have connected the HDMI from the DVD player directly to the TV and I am using the optical connection for the audio. I'd really like to get this working through the HDMI though as it provides DTS-HD. The optical only provides DTS.

Have you guys found a resolution for this problem?
post #237 of 407
Hello. I am also a brand new VSX-1022-K owner and overall I am pretty happy with the receiver. I just have one question. When I play DVD/BR discs from my SONY Blue Ray player (connected via HDMI cable), or stream Netfilx (from the same SONY BR player) all speakers (I have a 7.1 set up) work perfectly fine. When I play a regular CD from the same player there is no sound from the subwoofer. Did/does anyone have/had similar issue? Thanks!
post #238 of 407
I just clicked "Buy Now" on a 1022K. I think I'll be happy with it. Cheap way to get into 7.1 anyways.

So.....I really could care less about Network features so what are the other (if any) problems happening with these receivers?
post #239 of 407
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Originally Posted by Roger1985 View Post

When I play a regular CD from the same player there is no sound from the subwoofer. Did/does anyone have/had similar issue? Thanks!

Same here- with all stereo only sources. Impression is that the Sub is utilized only with the 5.1/7.1 theater modes.
post #240 of 407
I just bought this receiver and just hooked up the speakers only just to hear them, but when I connected my iphone to the provided adapter which has the audio and video I don't get any sound at all. I dialed it to where it said ipod on the display, but nothing. Not sure if I have to go into the settings somewhere to do something else. I was just currious. I'm going to read up on it of course, but an opinion would be appreciated. I have 5.1 speaker system.
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