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post #31 of 347
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Originally Posted by RC cola View Post

I recently installed one of these units for a friend and I found it to be very confusing to manipulate some functions.
I have a question about "upconverting" the video. Is there some setting in the menu to make it work? I went through the home menu settings and set what I found.
The image to the tv is not very clear. Using composite video from the sat box and component video from the DVD player to the receiver and a HDMI cable to the tv from the receiver. Its a Phillips LCD flat screen but I could not find a model number on the tv to do any research for the tv specs.

You wont get a clear picture using a composite cable.
post #32 of 347
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Originally Posted by GoldenWheels View Post

One thing that worries me though is only being 80 watts per channel....it seems a little weak. I'm not driving anything special (the exact opposite for now actually, the old speaker set from my onkyo HTIB) but really wonder about that power. Are you guys happy with the power of your 1022?

Yeah the power is more than enough. My last two receivers were also Pioneers rated at 110W and 130W per ch and I cannot hear a difference.
post #33 of 347
I figured it out, it was weird though, I connected a tablet to play music, then once i had the "cd" audio in playing that music, the menu worked, all set up now.

i was pressing receiver first, very strange.....

thanks for the replies guys!

Jim
post #34 of 347
also, i noticed it only plays in 2 speakers while using airplay.

i currently have a 5 speakers but no sub

how can i get the 1022 to play the music through all of the speakers? Will this also work for standard def tv? My comcast box currently only has rca red and white going to the 1022.

thanks!
post #35 of 347
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Originally Posted by COTorrey View Post

also, i noticed it only plays in 2 speakers while using airplay.
i currently have a 5 speakers but no sub
how can i get the 1022 to play the music through all of the speakers? Will this also work for standard def tv? My comcast box currently only has rca red and white going to the 1022.
thanks!

Yeah just press the advanced surround button on the receiver or remote and cycle to extended stereo.
post #36 of 347
Awesome! Lots left to learn!

Another question how do you connect using DLNA?? I read the manual but it isn't that helpful.I have a galaxy s III that I'd like to play music from like many wife can with airplay.

Thanks guys!!
post #37 of 347
I have purchased a VSX-1022-K AV receiver and have a question regarding the playback of of CD's MP3, WMA, VLC files randon audio files etc I have a PC connected to the receiver with an HDMI cable with a 5.1 setup. When playing the type of files stated above I only have the option of using "AUTO SURROUND", ""DIRECT" PURE DIRECT" "PCM" amd "STEREO" which all only play in the right, left and sub, auto surround say's "can't select". I understand these are "two channell" formats and know the DTS/DIolby formats that are in the video files I play through the receiver are not an option but I cannont seem to find a way to convert the audio to all five speakers. I'm sure there has to be somthing simple I'm missing any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks!
post #38 of 347
Hey, first time posting, but I've read through a ton of posts here trying to solve my problems. Thanks for getting me this far.

I just got the 1022 a few days ago, and I cannot get it to do anything with the network functions (netradio, etc). It just says PLS WAIT on the display.

I'm assuming there's a problem with connecting to my home network. I'm doing this through a Netgear WNCE2001. I've tried resetting and reinstalling a few times. My router finds it in the list of attached devices. All LEDs are lit up correctly (and it connects to the wireless router) when it's connected to my computer; however, the LAN LED won't light up at all (no connection) when I plug it into the 1022. Any function that deals with network just brings PLS WAIT up on the display.

I've tried port forwarding the router. I've tried WPS, WPS PIN, and non-WPS installs. I've got no clue.

And, I'll mention, may be related, that Airplay and the Pioneer iPhone app don't find the receiver.

I just don't know if it's router, the adapter, or the receiver.

Anybody dealt with anything like this? ANY tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help.

-RS
post #39 of 347
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Originally Posted by COTorrey View Post

Awesome! Lots left to learn!
Another question how do you connect using DLNA?? I read the manual but it isn't that helpful.I have a galaxy s III that I'd like to play music from like many wife can with airplay.
Thanks guys!!

Can't help you there, sorry.
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Originally Posted by DannyPH View Post

I have purchased a VSX-1022-K AV receiver and have a question regarding the playback of of CD's MP3, WMA, VLC files randon audio files etc I have a PC connected to the receiver with an HDMI cable with a 5.1 setup. When playing the type of files stated above I only have the option of using "AUTO SURROUND", ""DIRECT" PURE DIRECT" "PCM" amd "STEREO" which all only play in the right, left and sub, auto surround say's "can't select". I understand these are "two channell" formats and know the DTS/DIolby formats that are in the video files I play through the receiver are not an option but I cannont seem to find a way to convert the audio to all five speakers. I'm sure there has to be somthing simple I'm missing any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

Seriously? I just answered this question in post #35.
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Originally Posted by reddeststate View Post

Hey, first time posting, but I've read through a ton of posts here trying to solve my problems. Thanks for getting me this far.
I just got the 1022 a few days ago, and I cannot get it to do anything with the network functions (netradio, etc). It just says PLS WAIT on the display.
I'm assuming there's a problem with connecting to my home network. I'm doing this through a Netgear WNCE2001. I've tried resetting and reinstalling a few times. My router finds it in the list of attached devices. All LEDs are lit up correctly (and it connects to the wireless router) when it's connected to my computer; however, the LAN LED won't light up at all (no connection) when I plug it into the 1022. Any function that deals with network just brings PLS WAIT up on the display.
I've tried port forwarding the router. I've tried WPS, WPS PIN, and non-WPS installs. I've got no clue.
And, I'll mention, may be related, that Airplay and the Pioneer iPhone app don't find the receiver.
I just don't know if it's router, the adapter, or the receiver.
Anybody dealt with anything like this? ANY tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help.
-RS

It took me awhile to get the network feature running also. The "please wait" msg was displayed for a good 2 mins before it started working. What exactly are you "reinstalling"? Try pressing the home menu button when you get the please wait message, that should bring you to your network settings. Also, what do you mean "when it's connected to my computer"? When what is connected to your computer? I'm also a little confused on how youre trying to connect the receiver to your network. Wirelessly or hardwired? Assuming hardwired since you mentioned an adapter.

By the way, I'd like some help myself. If anyone has a Tivo connected to the Pioneer, please let me know.
post #40 of 347
This is such a great deal that I just bought one from Newegg. I was tempted to go Yamaha, but for the price...

Is there any setup or calibration that needs to be done (other than MCACC) once I get it? How exactly does MCACC work?
post #41 of 347
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Originally Posted by MarsianMan View Post

This is such a great deal that I just bought one from Newegg. I was tempted to go Yamaha, but for the price...
Is there any setup or calibration that needs to be done (other than MCACC) once I get it? How exactly does MCACC work?

The same way Audyssey works. Plug in the microphone and run the set up.
post #42 of 347
Well I saw in some forum that the Elite VSX-42 was on sale at Best Buy for $249.99. It seems to be largely the same unit as the 1022 with a few extra bells and whistles I think. (Here's the pioneer product pages if interested:)

Elite VSX-42
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/VSX-42

1022-K
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K

I was starting to get disappointed as the BF ads that are out don't seem to include any 7.1s in my price range (of course BB doesn't seem to be advertising THIS deal either), which is what I was waiting on. So seeing that I could drive out and get the Elite today and it seemed a bit better than the 1022 for the same money, I did. Best Buy had an island of them. If the 1022 is interesting to you this unit probably should be looked at as well.

Gonna run a temp/jimmy rig set up tonight (can't finalize EVERYTHING until my 30 ft HDMI cable comes in). Will see how it sounds at least even if I can't see how the video really looks and report back.
Edited by GoldenWheels - 11/21/12 at 1:07pm
post #43 of 347
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post


It took me awhile to get the network feature running also. The "please wait" msg was displayed for a good 2 mins before it started working. What exactly are you "reinstalling"? Try pressing the home menu button when you get the please wait message, that should bring you to your network settings. Also, what do you mean "when it's connected to my computer"? When what is connected to your computer? I'm also a little confused on how youre trying to connect the receiver to your network. Wirelessly or hardwired? Assuming hardwired since you mentioned an adapter.

Sorry that post was a little confusing. I was probably a little too frustrated to type.

First, the 'please wait' doesn't go away. I left it up for about an hour before I tried something else yesterday, and yeah, I tried the 'home menu' but 'please wait' doesn't go away.

Second, I connected to wireless adapter to my computer to make sure that it was receiving a single, and it was. The Netgeat WNCE2001 will work perfectly with my computer, almost instantly hooks up to the wireless router.

Third, the I'm trying to connect my receiver to my router through a wireless adapter from Netgear.

Thanks for checking out my post.

-RS
post #44 of 347
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Originally Posted by reddeststate View Post

Sorry that post was a little confusing. I was probably a little too frustrated to type.
First, the 'please wait' doesn't go away. I left it up for about an hour before I tried something else yesterday, and yeah, I tried the 'home menu' but 'please wait' doesn't go away.
Second, I connected to wireless adapter to my computer to make sure that it was receiving a single, and it was. The Netgeat WNCE2001 will work perfectly with my computer, almost instantly hooks up to the wireless router.
Third, the I'm trying to connect my receiver to my router through a wireless adapter from Netgear.
Thanks for checking out my post.
-RS

So you are trying to connect to your network by connecting your own wireless adapter instead of the one the Pioneer sells to the receiver? If this is true then the only thing Ican thing of is that the adapter is not comaptible with the receiver. Have you tried hard wiring it like I previously asked?
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Originally Posted by GoldenWheels View Post

Well I saw in some forum that the Elite VSX-42 was on sale at Best Buy for $249.99. It seems to be largely the same unit as the 1022 with a few extra bells and whistles I think. (Here's the pioneer product pages if interested:)
Elite VSX-42
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/VSX-42
1022-K
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K
I was starting to get disappointed as the BF ads that are out don't seem to include any 7.1s in my price range (of course BB doesn't seem to be advertising THIS deal either), which is what I was waiting on. So seeing that I could drive out and get the Elite today and it seemed a bit better than the 1022 for the same money, I did. Best Buy had an island of them. If the 1022 is interesting to you this unit probably should be looked at as well.
Gonna run a temp/jimmy rig set up tonight (can't finalize EVERYTHING until my 30 ft HDMI cable comes in). Will see how it sounds at least even if I can't see how the video really looks and report back.

Even on the Elite model they did away with the speaker and volume indicators on the display?? This was such a bad decision by Pioneer. It looks like the 1122 model still has these indicators.
post #45 of 347
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post

Even on the Elite model they did away with the speaker and volume indicators on the display?? This was such a bad decision by Pioneer. It looks like the 1122 model still has these indicators.

The volume one doesn't bug me (I can always just knock it up or down a notch to check) but I admit I'd have liked to have the speaker indicator!

Was very happy with the sound playing Avengers even though the MCACC way overboosted (IMO) my center. Knock that back a few notches and all sounded very good to my ears.
post #46 of 347
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post

So you are trying to connect to your network by connecting your own wireless adapter instead of the one the Pioneer sells to the receiver? If this is true then the only thing Ican thing of is that the adapter is not comaptible with the receiver. Have you tried hard wiring it like I previously asked?

Well, I got that particular wireless adapter (NETGEAR WNCE2001) because I read that it was a better adapter than the Pioneer one and that it was compatible with the Pioneer 1022. I have hardwired the receiver, and I get the same result: PLS WAIT appears on all NETWORK functions indefinitely.

-RS
post #47 of 347
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Originally Posted by COTorrey View Post

Awesome! Lots left to learn!
Another question how do you connect using DLNA?? I read the manual but it isn't that helpful.I have a galaxy s III that I'd like to play music from like many wife can with airplay.
Thanks guys!!
DLNA is not a feature which you can access, it is system that is always running. It let's you know that you are compatible with other DLNA-based systems. Kinda like the old days when you had to choose between Apple OS or Microsoft OS.
post #48 of 347
I got one of these yesterday and I've been playing with it. It's for my basement, and it's good value for money for a secondary system (I'm not in the basement often). I like airplay, so the music I play on my mac will play on the basement speakers. Pandora works nicely.

One of the limitations of my basement setup is that I have a free Verizon FIOS SD adapter; its output is composite video only. Not a problem, this receiver upconverts to 1080p. BUT... it doesn't seem to do it in the right aspect ratio; everything has been stretched, and I can't work out how to change it so that the 4:3 input image is properly displayed on the 16:9 HDMI monitor. The setup menu for Aspect has "normal" or "through" but neither appear to do anything useful; the output is still stretched.

Any ideas?
post #49 of 347
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post

So you are trying to connect to your network by connecting your own wireless adapter instead of the one the Pioneer sells to the receiver? If this is true then the only thing Ican thing of is that the adapter is not comaptible with the receiver. Have you tried hard wiring it like I previously asked?

I have a simillar problem in that I get the same "please wait" message on the media server menu and Airplay does not show up on any of my apple devices to control the receiver. All other network functions including Pandora, internet radio, and the pioneer controll app work perfectly fine. I am hooked up to my verizon FIOS router via an ethernet cable to the back of the receiver. Any ideas?
post #50 of 347
New firmware! 11/26/2012

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K?tab=firmware

CHANGE HISTORY:

Ver 1.053
- Support HTC Connect
- Improve the stability of NETWORK features.

Updating now. If it bricks, I'll let you know.
post #51 of 347
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Originally Posted by calculon68 View Post

New firmware! 11/26/2012
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K?tab=firmware
CHANGE HISTORY:
Ver 1.053
- Support HTC Connect
- Improve the stability of NETWORK features.
Updating now. If it bricks, I'll let you know.

I'm gonna try it myself. Hopefully, it will fix my Tivo audio problem.

Just updated successfully. Had to put the update file in the root directory of the USB stick to get it to work. Still getting the loud POP when switching channels on my Tivo. I give up. After hours and hours of unsuccessfully searching for a fix, I just listed the receiver on Amazon.
Edited by JZ1276 - 12/2/12 at 3:04am
post #52 of 347
I just bought the VSX-1022-K. I cannot get the Pandora to work. Whether I try to login my my user name or do new account, I get "SERVER ERROR" message.
I have it plugged to Internet through Ethernet. Internet Radio works OK.
Any suggestions?
post #53 of 347
Anyone else having an issue with the sub not playing? The system plays it during the MCACC set up but that is it. None of the sources or settings have solved the issue? Any ideas?

Overall not super impressed with the unit, UI from 1988, network function run like on dial up at best,AirPlay is not stable...I can't really speak for the sound yet because the sub is missing...
post #54 of 347
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Originally Posted by ruli02 View Post

I just bought the VSX-1022-K. I cannot get the Pandora to work. Whether I try to login my my user name or do new account, I get "SERVER ERROR" message.
I have it plugged to Internet through Ethernet. Internet Radio works OK.
Any suggestions?

Please read. Problem is Pandora server end and effects all brands according to very well-informed & knowledgeable forum member -

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1442352/pandora-log-in-problem/0_100
post #55 of 347
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Originally Posted by 4Lester View Post

Anyone else having an issue with the sub not playing? The system plays it during the MCACC set up but that is it. None of the sources or settings have solved the issue? Any ideas?
Overall not super impressed with the unit, UI from 1988, network function run like on dial up at best,AirPlay is not stable...I can't really speak for the sound yet because the sub is missing...

re-check your speaker settings - if you have fronts set to Large, your sub will not be used for 2 ch sound. You should make sure the center & surrounds are set to Small. Fronts may be set to Large ONLY if they can reproduce full bass range down to 20 Hz, the vast majority cannot do this. So Small is your best choice and start with 80 Hz as the crossover, unless you have small satellites which start to drop off < 90 or 100 Hz.

Vast majority of subwoofer not playing issues are speaker setting/bass management related.. IOW, the user wink.gif

If fronts are Large, the only time you will hear your sub is when you are playing a 5.1 DVD/BD/cable with dedicated LFE track OR using one of the surround modes such as Dolby ProLogic IIx, DTS Neo to create a surround field from 2 ch.

I won't address your other complaints. BTW- I am a very experienced Pioneer owner for decades & post in many Pioneer threads, so have an idea of many common setup issues.
post #56 of 347
Thanks- Was going nuts!
post #57 of 347
ss9001, thanks for the help. Sub is playing full time now. Fronts are Polk RTi6 with CSi3 center, I wonder why the MCACC set them as large? Regardless, I will continue to work out the settings and see if I can get over the details of the UI and other minor things...

Any ideas about the AirPlay loosing link sparatically?
post #58 of 347
I recently purchased the 1022-k. Replacing my vsx-820(3 hdmi inputs quit). No problems except Pandora won't work yet... And on pioneer's website it states I can use my EVO 4G with icontrol app. Well, it won't recognize my receiver. Latest firmware installed also.... Hmmm.???
post #59 of 347
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Originally Posted by nwaudio View Post

I recently purchased the 1022-k. Replacing my vsx-820(3 hdmi inputs quit). No problems except Pandora won't work yet... And on pioneer's website it states I can use my EVO 4G with icontrol app. Well, it won't recognize my receiver. Latest firmware installed also.... Hmmm.???

The same thing happened with my Motorolla Atrix 2. I ended up turning my phone off / on. Turning off and on my modem / router, switches. Thereafter, the Pioneer got its own IP address, and the app was able to recognize the receiver. I ended up returning the 1022 after 8 hours of usage. Pandora sounded horrible. It would only let me use the front two speakers and no sub. My wife and I use Pandora a lot so this was the main deciding factor to return it.
post #60 of 347
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Originally Posted by 4Lester View Post

ss9001, thanks for the help. Sub is playing full time now. Fronts are Polk RTi6 with CSi3 center, I wonder why the MCACC set them as large? Regardless, I will continue to work out the settings and see if I can get over the details of the UI and other minor things...
Any ideas about the AirPlay loosing link sparatically?

glad it's working for you now.

MCACC, no different than Audyssey & Yamaha's room correction system, will sometimes set them as Large even though the speaker may not be fully capable of reaching the low end of the bass spectrum. The reason is most likely the lowest freq the company uses in the test tone - in Pioneer's case that may be 63 Hz, since that is the lowest band it's EQ works on; I'm not 100% sure of this but it logically makes sense.

the common advice is if the speaker is set to Large & it really isn't capable of reaching 20 to mid 30's Hz bass, just manually set it to Small. In fact, THX and numerous other sources, including most experienced AVS forum members & calibrators, recommend setting all speakers to Small anyway if you have a subwoofer. By doing that, it forces the most capable speaker for bass, the sub, to handle it. Subs are usually far more capable in reproducing low bass than the vast majority of "full range" speakers, no matter the brand. That's why THX recommends Small as the preferred setting. And using 80 Hz as the crossover is recommended as a good starting point since < 80, bass is largely non-directional, meaning our ears can't detect where it's coming from. Depending on the person, bass starts to become more directional the higher the crossover. 100 is probably still a safe bet for many but if you use a higher crossover, in the case where small sat speakers are used, you probably want to locate the sub near the middle since most folks could tell where 150 Hz is coming from, and the bass will seem to originate from the place the sub is placed.

every receiver has its quirks in how the company sets up the GUI, setup menu, specific settings, etc. Once you get familiar with how Pioneer does things, it'll seem like old hat to you smile.gif to be fair, GUI is one area where Denon & possibly Onkyo do a bit better job than Pioneer. But don't let that spoil your enjoyment of using a fine receiver. you'll get it! smile.gif
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