New Logitech Harmony Touch - Page 9

@ Tom Ames,

Just saw your post wondering about my impressions. I don't regret buying the Touch, but its does have its quirks. The touch screen is too sensitive and like everyone else I hate where they put the help button. I have gotten use to the transport buttons being above the touch screen. Overall I enjoy using the Touch, but you do wonder on occassion "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?"

Sorry fellas, thanks for the input. Here ya go:
-I'm trying to control a:
-Denon 2112CI
-Sony 55HX750
-DirectTV HR24
-PS3 (If that's possible)

There are all located on a small entertainment center in open and plain view.

Only I will be using the remote, but for the few times family comes over, I'd like them be able to pick it up and use it without an hour lesson.

I have zero problem spending time setting it up.

I'm prepared to spend the $250 that the Touch costs.

Thanks again guys...

You absolutely can control a PS3 with it, but you will need to buy an additional adapter that Logitech makes to do so, as the PS3 doesn't support IR. I think it cost around $50 when I purchased it earlier this week. The adapter takes about 2 minutes to unbox and set up, but keep in mind that it does require its own power outlet. Oh, and as Barzo posted earlier (which helped me out quite a bit), if you have a PS3 slim, make sure you type in that its a slim when setting the remote up on your computer so that everything works correctly.

So to those following this and similar threads for some time now, or who actually own this and the Harmony One.
Would you say this is a worthwhile upgrade over the One even if it's still working very well? (quite new, good condition, no faults etc)
Edited by jalyst - 1/6/13 at 8:02am

All you need is a $40 harmony 600 and a $12 nyko blu wave. If you want to spend $300 that will work too, but it's overkill for your requirements.

Cheers,

I know from a programability perspective that's all one needs; regardless I'm still interested in hearing from those who've actually used both, or at least read about both heavily.
For what I'd originally planned/assessed, I had settled on a URC MX-980 ages ago, but that got put on the back-burner for various reasons, so a One has sufficed since then.
Edited by jalyst - 1/6/13 at 8:17am

If you can live without all the hard buttons the Touch lacks (I can't), then go for it. That's the biggest difference between the Touch and other models. The recent poster that loved the Touch either has a DVR that has no skip function or hasn't tried to use it yet. No skip buttons, no number buttons, no RF and the high price are all deal breakers for me. The problem with the Touch is it's all form over function. They waste all the great screen real estate the Touch has and needlessly remove important buttons and require multiple actions for simple functions. I'm not a fan of the One either because of it's poor battery life, large size and lack of colored buttons. I'm still waiting for logitech to make a better remote than the full featured models from years ago.

Thanks,

That more-or-less gels with all the other comments I've read so far @engadget/ars, the break in flow of physical buttons with the touchscreen is crazy too.
From what I've read so far the One's battery life is way better than this, although that's prolly not saying much compared to some other remotes.
I'm not a fan of the One's largish size either.....

Very good points, I can live with the 600. However, all I'm seeing on Harmony's website is the 650. I'm assuming it's just a slight step up from the 600?

Hi all first post over here on the remotes section. I am having a problem with my Harmony Touch, although I don't think this is just a touch issue. I have an Oppo BDP-103 player and I have been trying to program the player to change to the rear HDMI input for watching TV. I have assigned the blue button on the remote to represent the "input" button on the Oppo remote. Changed delay settings etc and put delays of 1sec between comands but with a 20 sec delay on sending the "input" command to the Oppo to let it start-up.
Still no joy? The Oppo doesn't even start to change the input? I have it programmed as a 20 sec delay before changes after power on and then 3 blue buttons (programmed as an input button from the Oppo remote) and then a select to confirm the output?

Does anybody have any advice as to what I am doing wrong?

Ian in Ottawa

harmony's site isn't working right. keeps giving me

Oops.
This is not the page you're looking for. But unfortunately, that Logitech product or page is not available in your location. (You may even have a bad link.) Go ahead and keep browsing www.logitech.com for the latest products, support, company information and more.

I'm in the US.

sry for offtopic but what do you guys think about this? http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/en/remote-control

^Tis much better etiquette to start a dedicated thread asking that Qn & simply link to it here (even that's questionable).

Posted this over at the Oppo BDP-103 site and thought I would post how this was fixed for the touch.

Cheers (I am a Brit)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau

With the latest firmware, use the Input button followed by a digit to directly select a line from the Input selection Pop-up.
If the problem is at power up, use Quick Start to speed up the power up time.
--Bob

Quote:
Originally Posted by pilot20

I don't have an easy fix for you as I have the same issue. I'm using a URC remote and using the Oppo as a video processor for my TIVO.
Prior to the new Oppo, I had my remote set up with macros to turn on/off my TV, DVDO Edge and AVR. I can't get the macro to work with the Oppo, even with quick start and built-in delay.
I have to manually change the input on the Oppo every time I start up the system to watch TV. That's not much of a problem for me, but the wife objects to the extra step. She doesn’t care about video processing…blah, blah, blah. She just wants to watch TV without hassle.
This is our main home theater system, and I want the best PQ possible from my equipment. She has her own smaller system in her office, but she doesn’t want to be confined to that room when I’m not around to turn the TV on and off.
I suggested earlier in the thread that Oppo release a firmware update that would provide an option to leave the player on the selected output rather than always defaulting to the DVD output.
This would greatly simplify things in our house since we watch TV much more than DVDs.

Well I have a fix for the Logitech Harmony Touch remote. Many thanks Bob for the start of my trouble shooting. Here is how I fixed it
1. Do not make the changes in programming to the Oppo settings. There is no # to select and won't take "Input" as a custom command.
2. In watch TV activities it is my cable box remote that is being mirrored, so make the changes there.
3. Teach the Logitech Touch using the cable box remote settings. Add a custom leant input command by using the Oppo remote to teach it. Call it anything but Input as it will not appear as a choice if you do.
4. Add a custom learnt command the same way for #3 (rear HDMI)
5. Make sure as Bob suggests to enable quick start on the Oppo.
6. I have mine set as follows,
Oppo warm up delay 15 secs>>>custom input (called something else)>>>>>>2 sec delay>>>>>>custom #3>>>>>>>> Voilà.

Cheers to all

Picked up a Harmony touch earlier today. So far, pretty impressed. Easy to setup and use.

Not to get this thread off track, but that is an add on remote for a specific product on that site. It isn't a universal remote.

I've owned several harmony remotes and the touch is my favorite so far. I love the simpler design. The only hard buttons i miss is chapter skip but not a problem as i simply assigned them to the bottom empty hard buttons. It responds faster than my last harmony and feels wonderful in my hand. The migration of my last remote to this one was painless and took just a short amount of time.

Got my Harmony Touch last Monday and started working with it yesterday evening. So far, looks and feels good. Setup was quite easy, Listen, Watch Movie, Watch TV acitivities worked flawlessly for me, since I have Integra 80.2 Processor and my Oppo, Cable box everything go thru the Integra via HDMI1 to the TV.
Got 20 channels added to Fav. Performs perfectly. Touchscreen is impressively responsive. The little cluster of button for FF and Rew, Rec on the top separately is a bit strange. But might prove not-so-bad idea after I get used to it, since I won't press any of these transport button by mistake during some odd time when it's not needed... but this yet to be seen. Minor flaw as compared to other positive aspects of this Remote. Did research and couldn't find many alternate option within this price point. URC MX series are pain in the neck, since, have to get professional to configure. I hate when use of an equipment has a dependency on someone else.
I had Harmony 880 for over 4 years. I found Touch to be way better and significant improvement over 880. Touch screen is the thing of tomorrow, most of us will get used to it sooner or later.
Only other option I explored was Harmony 1100. But BB doesn't have it at all and I was in a mood to get a new remote at that time.
Anyone has any direct or indirect experience of pros and cons of Touch and 1100 vis-a-vis? Please share!

My current Harmony One (a few years old) is beginning to have some sticky buttons. I have the option of replacing it with another Harmony One or the new Harmony Touch. Anyone done any direct comparisons? I am using this remote to run 8 activities with 8 devices.

I'm using the Touch on one set up and the One on another. When I was getting ready to purchase the Touch I had some reservations and almost purchased another One but really just wanted to see where I fell in with the positive and negative reviews. I have to say I really enjoy it. I was concerned that I would have to always be looking at the remote to do anything but after using it and the One I realized I looked at the One just as much. The Touch is very responsive and I enjoy being able to scroll with the touch screen.

Really I like it and if I were to need to replace the Harmony One I'd get the Touch. About the only thing I don't like about it is the battery life isn't even close to the One. My Harmony One lasts weeks between charges while the Touch lasts days. Sometimes that's bad though because the One lasts so long that I would forget to charge it and it would be down right in the middle of using it where as I'm more aware of the Touch and usually put it in the cradle every night when going to bed.

Thanks for your input.

You could always take it apart and clean it.

Hmmm. Never thought of that. May give it a try. If I ruin it, I am no worse off. Thanks.

I just recently bought an old TV off craigslist, and only about half the buttons on the remote worked. I completely disassembled it, and washed all the plastic and rubber parts in dish soap and warm water with a scrub brush. I then gently cleaned the top of the circuit board where the buttons were, put it all back together, and the remote works like new now.

Use an alcohol wipe to clean it without opening it up. The alcohol will actually seep under the button and should remove any sticky parts.

As you are familiar with the H1, I would suggest that you replace it with the same model. People seem to either love or hate the Touch, and I think there may be more haters than lovers. Only you can tell if it suitable for your uses after you have actually used it. From all the reports that I have seen it would not work for me.

I think opinions differ, and only you can decide, which makes it difficult in practice. I have both the harmony One and the Touch and much prefer the One. Keys above the touch screen seems crazy, along with the lack of skip forward and back hard buttons. The Touch is not a bad remote, and if I'd never had the One, it would be fine, but to me, the Touch seems clunky in comparison to the One.

So I've had the Touch now for a few weeks....

I have mixed feelings about it...I loved my 880 and the One...

I've had the One in my Home Theater and bought the Touch to replace it as buttons were sticking etc...

I really want to like this and some days I like it more than others, I just can't for the life of me figure out why the transport buttons are where they are...

I have more accidental things being done due to the touch screen being very sensitive and really don't like that it doesn't wake up with motion...

I guess it's ok but I'm having some complaints from the wife and daughters...hmmm as I type this now...idk..

UGH!!! They had such a good thing in the One...I guess I'm more on the fence than I thought...

WOW! I was just about to purchase a Touch, but have been reading the forum. Now I am really confused. Had a chance to purchase a Harmony One for $110.00 at Costco some weeks ago and didn't. Sorry now. Have a friend who uses the 900 which has RF. Seemed to work well for him, but his system is not at all complicated. Mine is pretty simple: Samsung DLP rear projection TV, Marantz AVR, OPPO 103 and Directv DVR. I want to use the OPPO with the back HDMI for the DVR, but the posting by Bob and pilot 20 is not very clear (probably my inability to understand). So I guess, I will wait for some help from the forum.

ROJO11

The most important differences between the One and the Touch are the Touch is missing skip fwd and skip back buttons (as passingbat said) and has no number buttons (they're on a touchscreen). Personally, I think it would be a huge pain to use a DVR without hard skip buttons. Some use swipes for skips, but that seems awkward as well. I do like the longer 10 step macros, but losing buttons is too big of a trade off. I guess Logitech thought a big touchscreen would help them compete against smart phone remote apps, but I'd rather have hard buttons any day.

I thought the newer Harmony remotes didn't even support sequences/macros i.e. that stopped with the One etc.