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post #1051 of 11327
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Wife, 2 kids and a dog.....go with the 4520. It's not like you'll be able to hear the difference with all that going on.
....typed thinking about how the new wife likes to talk when I'm watching a movie. lol

At least she stays awake - mine is asleep within 10 minutes...
post #1052 of 11327
I think Santa came through, so it will be a techno-wonderful Christmas...
post #1053 of 11327
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

^^^
If I had to decide between the two I would advise to get them both!
Just a day or 2 on the new 8801- changed out from a 7005. Wonderful.

Pretty immediate difference?
post #1054 of 11327
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Originally Posted by VTGOLFER View Post

Right now I do not have a projector but a Mitsubishi DLP 73" TV but want to go the projector route. I would need to buy a three channel amp to go with 11.2 with the 8801 but not with the 4520 at first. I'm just thinking that the 4520 will probably sound close to identical to the 8801 when it comes down to it for Dolby True HD and DS Master Audio. Critical two channel might be another story but but rarely I listen critically anymore with two kids and a dog in the house.
My thinking right now is that a 120" front projector screen and projector with 11.2 sound from the 4520 would best a 73" DLP with a "little" better sound with the the 8801. Plus I can also swing dual subs as well. If anyone thinks this is a mistake please chime in.

I'd go the projector route. My critical music listening ended after I had kids. With leas free time, sitting around just listening to musoc was the first thing to go (well, maybe sleep). Bang for the buck, a projector will make the biggest improvement you can do.
post #1055 of 11327
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Originally Posted by VTGOLFER View Post

Right now I do not have a projector but a Mitsubishi DLP 73" TV but want to go the projector route. I would need to buy a three channel amp to go with 11.2 with the 8801 but not with the 4520 at first. I'm just thinking that the 4520 will probably sound close to identical to the 8801 when it comes down to it for Dolby True HD and DS Master Audio. Critical two channel might be another story but but rarely I listen critically anymore with two kids and a dog in the house.
My thinking right now is that a 120" front projector screen and projector with 11.2 sound from the 4520 would best a 73" DLP with a "little" better sound with the the 8801. Plus I can also swing dual subs as well. If anyone thinks this is a mistake please chime in.

I was faced with a similar choice but different priorities, on where to place the funds. the projector route was very compelling indeed ( had my eye on one of the new JVC E shift modles!) but I've only had my 73" Dlp for a year and love it and since Mitsubishi is getting out the Dlp business, I figured one last go for now. I listen to a lot of music and movies and want equal treatment of both and with the video decisions made I put the funds towards the 8801 >Oppo 105 > Sub Ken Kreisel DXD12012:eek: and new surrounds Energy vs with the option to add my old ones to the back wall later for 7.1 . I also got 3 Fusion Escape recliners, all in all when I demoed a movie last night my 73" was more than big enough to compliment the 35% increase in audio performance and gained a significant impact increase. Oh boy I cant wait till movie night!.biggrin.gif
post #1056 of 11327
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Not at all. The question was either a 4520 and a projector (for the money) or an AV8801 and a TV plus investing in an extra AMP. I would take a bigger screen (hence the projector). smile.gif
ah, I see, thanks. I'm now checking out projectors to use as well with the AV8801, looking for something affordable with 3D (and maybe 4K capable)
post #1057 of 11327
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

ah, I see, thanks. I'm now checking out projectors to use as well with the AV8801, looking for something affordable with 3D (and maybe 4K capable)

Not sure what your budget is, but 4k is still really expensive. For an affordable 3D Projector, consider the Epson Home Cinema 3020 Projector which can be found for under $1,500. Maybe that will leave you with some budget for the AV8801? biggrin.gif
post #1058 of 11327
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

At least she stays awake - mine is asleep within 10 minutes...

She does that when we're watching a movie she wants to see.

Might be fun having Master and Commander cannon explosions qued up.

If you guys don't hear from me tomorrow.....then it was probably a bad idea. smile.gif
post #1059 of 11327
Early Christmas card - got an email from audyssey that the Pro version has been updated today to support the 8801 and to fix the slow serial speeds for 4520 owners...
post #1060 of 11327
^^^
The way you're reporting these news, it looks like the Audyssey Pro software for Windows was missing some component to be able to recognize the Pro feature on the 8801. I though that it was Marantz that hadn't yet implemented the Pro feature on the 8801's firmware.
post #1061 of 11327
For 3D projection and you can mount it with no lens shift needed, Optoma HD33 is my bet. It's ghost-free 3D. From what I can tell, you still get ghosting with LCD/SXRD/DILA because they dont switch as fast.

I use the Optoma for 3D exclusively and use my JVC RS60 for 2D
post #1062 of 11327
Epson makes great projectors. I was an optima dealer years ago and regret ever doing that.
Edited by sfav - 12/19/12 at 9:56pm
post #1063 of 11327
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

Not sure what your budget is, but 4k is still really expensive. For an affordable 3D Projector, consider the Epson Home Cinema 3020 Projector which can be found for under $1,500. Maybe that will leave you with some budget for the AV8801? biggrin.gif
Thanks, I was considering the Epson. Seems BenQ is becoming more popular as well.
post #1064 of 11327
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
nope, that ain't a mistake... smile.gif
all of the kerfluffle about possible sound differences aside (my opinion is already well known on that, and i will not beat the dead horse)...
there is one thing we KNOW for certain, and that is that 120" projection acreen will make a 73" display look positively tiny... smile.gif

So true its so easy for screens to think its only 1" (mobile), of 2" (tablet) or 20" more (projectors) but in all cases the effects are dramatic more than people expect. The difference between a 90" and 120" sounds minor to people because its not natural to think that the 30" 'strip' that you add result in so much more screen.

Very little things in this addiction are better value than adding inches to screens...

Daniel.
post #1065 of 11327
^^^

yup... true dat... when it comes to video, there truly is no replacement for displacement... smile.gif

the visual impact of a truly "big screen" is something that many underestimate...

i "care" about sound... but if the choice was between tripling my screen real estate vs. chasing something that may or may not exist, i know what i would choose... smile.gif i've been fortunate enough to have a few "WOW!!" moments when bringing equipment into my room... NOTHING comes close to the "WOW!!!" moment i had when i hung my first pj screen...

no controlled testing necessary on this one... smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
yup... true dat... when it comes to video, there truly is no replacement for displacement... smile.gif
the visual impact of a truly "big screen" is something that many underestimate...
i "care" about sound... but if the choice was between tripling my screen real estate vs. chasing something that may or may not exist, i know what i would choose... smile.gif i've been fortunate enough to have a few "WOW!!" moments when bringing equipment into my room... NOTHING comes close to the "WOW!!!" moment i had when i hung my first pj screen...
no controlled testing necessary on this one... smile.gif

Having just finished my new HT room and gone from a 65 Plasma to 110 inch screen with a new Sony HW50ES, I a couldn't agree more. The smile on my face hasn't left in the last 7 days since the room was completed smile.gif
post #1067 of 11327
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Early Christmas card - got an email from audyssey that the Pro version has been updated today to support the 8801 and to fix the slow serial speeds for 4520 owners...

So how do you go about purchasing the the Audyssey Pro kit? Can you buy it directly from Audyssey?
post #1068 of 11327
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Originally Posted by Woof Woof View Post

For 3D projection and you can mount it with no lens shift needed, Optoma HD33 is my bet. It's ghost-free 3D. From what I can tell, you still get ghosting with LCD/SXRD/DILA because they dont switch as fast.
I use the Optoma for 3D exclusively and use my JVC RS60 for 2D

I agree for the most part but on my Sony 1000ES I don't see any ghosting. eek.gif
post #1069 of 11327
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Originally Posted by marathonman View Post

So how do you go about purchasing the the Audyssey Pro kit? Can you buy it directly from Audyssey?

I got mine years ago, from a local distributor - not sure if that's still the path, or if you just contact Audyssey, "pretend" you are starting up a custom install company, and pay the money to them. I don't think you'd find much resistance, as it seems almost everyone with a kit is rank and file...

If you contact Audyssey. ask for "Luke" (Je-Kin Loke), who seems to be all things Audyssey Pro.
post #1070 of 11327
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I agree for the most part but on my Sony 1000ES I don't see any ghosting. eek.gif

Agreed - no ghosting I can discern with the 1000es...
post #1071 of 11327
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Originally Posted by Jond0 View Post

Pretty immediate difference?
Yes, it is a pretty immediate difference. I read an early review that said that some reality show soundtrack actually sounded different and I thought that was going a bit too far. But last night I watched an episode of CSI/LA that was shot on an aircraft carrier and was surprised to hear a lot of "environment" sounds that I had never heard on the show before. I had never noticed computer chirps when they are all in the computer room before. So even in non critical listening, there is a noticeable difference between processors. Whether it is Audyssey, or HDAMs or DACs or copper I could not tell you. At the risk of being savaged by others on the board, the SQ is improved from the 7005.
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The superior sound can easily be explained by the copper screws on top. I tried both and there is a distinct difference with them! biggrin.gif

Have a good Holiday Season everyone. smile.gif
post #1073 of 11327
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post


The superior sound can easily be explained by the copper screws on top. I tried both and there is a distinct difference with them! biggrin.gif
Have a good Holiday Season everyone. smile.gif

Finally some real science. I have been placing pennies on the top corner of my pre/pro for years with HUGE benefit...second only to the Super Turbo XL2000 power cord hand made by Tibetan midgets smile.gif
post #1074 of 11327
Quote from page 20 in the manual:

This section describes how to connect when your Blu-ray disc player does not support HDMI connections.

Yeah right, we all remember the times when Blu-ray players didn't have HDMI... wink.gif
post #1075 of 11327
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

Yes, it is a pretty immediate difference. I read an early review that said that some reality show soundtrack actually sounded different and I thought that was going a bit too far. But last night I watched an episode of CSI/LA that was shot on an aircraft carrier and was surprised to hear a lot of "environment" sounds that I had never heard on the show before. I had never noticed computer chirps when they are all in the computer room before. So even in non critical listening, there is a noticeable difference between processors. Whether it is Audyssey, or HDAMs or DACs or copper I could not tell you. At the risk of being savaged by others on the board, the SQ is improved from the 7005.

Indeed ! its pretty shocking the level of detail retrieval this thing has on familiar material (tv,movies and music) my Anthem was great but never saw this level on sonic detail coming out the box and is sounding better by the day ( yes burn in)! more to come! as I plan to run Audyssey this weekend ( novice here) for "The dark Knight Rises" for now I'm moving Acoustic panels around and messing with crossover settings.

And my gosh this thing is Beautiful !
post #1076 of 11327
Audiofan

Which Anthem?
post #1077 of 11327
Hey has anyone made observations on picture quality going through the AV8801 to the display? Is there any degradation or monkeying w/color, white balance? Also interested in reviews in comparison to Denon AVP-A1HDCI.
post #1078 of 11327
going through this processor to my 64in samsung plazma tv, the picture quality has improved. the surround is amazing, i have never heard anything like this before. watching hurtlocker last night, when wind was blowing across the desert i could see the image of wind going around to each speaker . it seems like there is more sound to everything i am watching. i would have to say i am pretty happy:D looking forward to some more movies this holiday season.
post #1079 of 11327
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Originally Posted by ImaStar View Post

Hey has anyone made observations on picture quality going through the AV8801 to the display? Is there any degradation or monkeying w/color, white balance? Also interested in reviews in comparison to Denon AVP-A1HDCI.
I noticed a difference in the picture from the 7005. You will have to take it from others whether it is better or not as I am colorblind. I liked it better...
post #1080 of 11327
My displays are Kuro 60" and Sony G70 and I've noticed with my AV8003 there's a slight bit of cold look to reds, and an effect on white where this affects brown. Of course it's more noticeable on the 100" G70, but just enough for a person used to knowing what to look for to notice. Whereas the same pic going through my 4311 and previous Denons give a more natural, warmer look. The slightest nitpic but just enough to take a little pop effect off of the G70.
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