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Originally Posted by Geronimo.USMC View Post

The device with the IR code "Input Mode", as I stated, is either the AV7005 or SR7005. I can't recall which, but I tested it, and it cycles the input mode; Auto, HDMI, Analog, Ext.In

It turns out it's on both model's remotes as they use the same remote; however is referred to as the "A/D" button rather than "Input Mode".
post #1202 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Rosano View Post

To AV8801 owners......what is the software upgrade that keeps popping up in a few posts.....what does it address / fix? How long did it take? Was it relatively simple....ie connect to internet and its all automatic...Is it a mandatory upgrade?
Thanks

Pandora fix.

http://us.marantz.com/us/News/Pages/NewsDetails.aspx?NewsID=77
post #1203 of 11283
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Originally Posted by marathonman View Post

Hi. Just to clarify. Are you connecting the 8801 and the 8807 with the remote control in/out or adc trigger? I have not purchased these units (yet) but i was hoping to use the rc in/out so I could save the dc triggers for other (non-marantz) devices. In the manual that connector looks like an RCA connector. True? Or did I misunderstand your question?

I am using the mini jack not the RCA- in my haste I had it in the adjacent port, not the trigger in.

Also left aux front panel is for audyssey pro...doing a cal now, probably just a 6-8 point as its late....
post #1204 of 11283
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

It turns out it's on both model's remotes as they use the same remote; however is referred to as the "A/D" button rather than "Input Mode".
Its called "Input Mode" in the Harmony Database.
post #1205 of 11283
Got it. Thanks for the clarification. smile.gif
post #1206 of 11283
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Doesn't look like the remote code is what's causing all the zones to be turned on.
I must have changed something else. Anyone knows where the setting is that sets the other zones to come on when the main power on the remote is turned on?
TaDaaa! I found the workaround on the Logitech forums.

"A better solution to this problem is to set the Power On commoand to be "none" as the input command will power on the unit
Devices>Your AVR>Settings>Power Setting
Then at
Devices>Your AVR>Settings>Adjust Delays
Set the Power On delay to 0ms

This will also speed up the start of all of your Activities
"

I have tested it. This works well.
The only gripe I have now is missing the ir command or setting to switch the rear back surround upmixing OFF on 5.1 DTS sources as in the 4311CI. The current workaround is to manually select "none" in the GUI under speakers, and select "2spkrs" When you need to go from discreet 5.1 to discreet 6 or 7.1......I wish there was another way. Here is to hoping someone comes up with a solution.
Edited by Geronimo.USMC - 12/25/12 at 7:08pm
post #1207 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I had the pair hooked up for A/B comparisons. March Stereophile.
I can't wait. I am hoping I don't get a big urge to sell my 80.3.
post #1208 of 11283
Thanks for all the suggestions for Discrete Power. I'm gonna call Marantz tomorrow and see if they have any suggestions.

I do have the latest discrete Hex codes for the 8801 that have not been released yet. I will attach it here for you all.

Marantz IR-HEX Codes 11-2012 - NEWEST.xlsx 559k .xlsx file
post #1209 of 11283
Finished an 11 point Pro cal a little while ago - one subwoofer distance setting is off by 7 feet or so - fairly odd (left sub is 13.5 feet away from MLP, but Audyssey notes it as 6.1. Identical JL AUdio Fathom 113 on opposite side of front soundstage is accurate to within about a foot of actual distance)

I know the distances aren't exact,, taking into account processing delays within the subs, but this seems fairly amiss...

No lengthy serial delay issues like the 4520 had initially...

Now for some listening. Must say I do like the Integra GUI much better than the Marantz - much more logically laid out
post #1210 of 11283
All DACS are not equal and all implementations of the same DACS are not equal.

There can be significant and easily heard differences between the Digital to Analog Conversion of different equipment. Hearing the difference does require downstream components with enough resolution to present the difference.

When talking about measurements keep in mind that most measurements are made using steady state signals. Music signals are far from steady state and orders of magnitude more complex. While steady state signals may not show interactions that affect the sound, music signals may cause interactions that degrade the perceived quality of the sound.

I certainly do not want to dismiss the placebo effect that many equipment "upgrades" may cause. This is, in most cases, very real. I prefer to refer to listening to music reproduction as a "Psycho-Acoustic" experience where Psycho and Acoustic may not necessarily be equal. Certain "upgrades" may be almost completely Psycho.

To get back on topic, I am very interested to learn exactly what the 8801 wiil provide and what reviewers that I respect think about it.
post #1211 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I had the pair hooked up for A/B comparisons. March Stereophile.

I read your article on the NAD T187 A/V surround-sound preamplifier-processor.
post #1212 of 11283
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Originally Posted by RajeeK View Post

Thanks for all the suggestions for Discrete Power. I'm gonna call Marantz tomorrow and see if they have any suggestions.
I do have the latest discrete Hex codes for the 8801 that have not been released yet. I will attach it here for you all.
Marantz IR-HEX Codes 11-2012 - NEWEST.xlsx 559k .xlsx file
Would you or anyone send this to Harmony so they can update their database? Maybe ask Marantz themselves to submit it. I tried before & they had the nerve to charge me to do so. Thanks!
Edited by Geronimo.USMC - 12/25/12 at 10:26pm
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I almost forgot. Does anyone know if you do a web interface backup, does it save the actual Audyssey settings as well in the config.dat? I already had to do a microprocessor reset because of some quirky/flakey HDMI blackout handshake issues after the firmware update & reloaded the backup I made.
post #1214 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Geronimo.USMC View Post

Would you or anyone send this to Harmony so they can update their database? Maybe ask Marantz themselves to submit it. I tried before & they had the nerve to charge me to do so. Thanks!
Sorry, can't help with submitting this to Harmony, I use a Mx-850 from URC.
post #1215 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Geronimo.USMC View Post

I almost forgot. Does anyone know if you do a web interface backup, does it save the actual Audyssey settings as well in the config.dat? I already had to do a microprocessor reset because of some quirky/flakey HDMI blackout handshake issues after the firmware update & reloaded the backup I made.
Yes, I believe it does save all your settings including Audyssey.
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I tried to down load the manual but it gave me a error notice.
I have a question if someone can answer it.

I have three subs, a Velodyne for the .1 and two RELs for my L&R front speakers.
I have the RELs in line with the fronts. Those of you familiar with RELs will understand the type hook up that they can use.
I would like them to have a separate direct RCA out for better sound check and calibration which is an alternative method.

Question:
Can either the Front L&R High or Wide connections be configured as main fronts along with the normal front L&R.
In other words 2 L&R front channel speaker connections.
Some units take a second pair of inputs for a 4-way bi-amp of the front channels.

Thanks.

Greg
post #1217 of 11283
^^
The servers may have been down. You should be able to download the manual from either the product page (see below link) or the Support - Downloads and Manuals page .... just checked it and the product page seems to be running okay now. smile.gif

http://us.marantz.com/us/products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AVSeparates&ProductId=AV8801

As is also the case with the 4520CI, the pre-outs cannot be reassigned rather only the onboard amps of the 4520CI can be reassigned.
post #1218 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Geronimo.USMC View Post

I almost forgot. Does anyone know if you do a web interface backup, does it save the actual Audyssey settings as well in the config.dat? I already had to do a microprocessor reset because of some quirky/flakey HDMI blackout handshake issues after the firmware update & reloaded the backup I made.

Yes. They are indeed. smile.gif
post #1219 of 11283
Ahhhh...thanks. So its just to update Pandora....well Pandora is not available in the Geat White North....so it not an upgrade I need to do. I wonder if any fellow Canucks have this unit yet?Still no ETA on mine.
post #1220 of 11283
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Finished an 11 point Pro cal a little while ago - one subwoofer distance setting is off by 7 feet or so - fairly odd (left sub is 13.5 feet away from MLP, but Audyssey notes it as 6.1. Identical JL AUdio Fathom 113 on opposite side of front soundstage is accurate to within about a foot of actual distance)
I know the distances aren't exact,, taking into account processing delays within the subs, but this seems fairly amiss...
No lengthy serial delay issues like the 4520 had initially...
Now for some listening. Must say I do like the Integra GUI much better than the Marantz - much more logically laid out

The distance may have been altered by Pro to get the best integration at the crossover to your mains. I have a similar setup (A100 with pro and a pair of JL113's) and Pro set one of my subs to an odd distance as well. Although I did tweak the distances a bit using an Omnimic, the post Pro measurements showed better sub/main xover integration than the original XT32 only run. The Pro measurements actually got pretty close to the distance tweak I used to correct the original XT32 settings from before the Pro kit investment.

Do you have any measuring capability to confirm your settings?
post #1221 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Geronimo.USMC View Post

TaDaaa! I found the workaround on the Logitech forums.
"A better solution to this problem is to set the Power On commoand to be "none" as the input command will power on the unit
Devices>Your AVR>Settings>Power Setting
Then at
Devices>Your AVR>Settings>Adjust Delays
Set the Power On delay to 0ms
This will also speed up the start of all of your Activities
"
I have tested it. This works well.
The only gripe I have now is missing the ir command or setting to switch the rear back surround upmixing OFF on 5.1 DTS sources as in the 4311CI. The current workaround is to manually select "none" in the GUI under speakers, and select "2spkrs" When you need to go from discreet 5.1 to discreet 6 or 7.1......I wish there was another way. Here is to hoping someone comes up with a solution.

Reprogrammed the remote last night and tried it this morning.

Works great and as you said fast.
post #1222 of 11283
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Originally Posted by RajeeK View Post

Sorry, can't help with submitting this to Harmony, I use a Mx-850 from URC.
Time for me to step my remote game up lol.
post #1223 of 11283
If you connect a stereo component to the analog inputs (balanced or RCA) does the signal bypass all DSP and A/D-D/A conversion? I was thinking about purchasing an outboard DAC and connecting it to the balanced input.
post #1224 of 11283
No, not with the RCA and therefore not likely with the balanced either, rather only when using the multi channel analog inputs would that be the case.
post #1225 of 11283
We had our first units come in, they came and went fast. No time to play with this piece just yet.
post #1226 of 11283
Just ordered one! Woohoo!! Replacing my onkyo 805 receiver. Expecting a big upgrade.
post #1227 of 11283
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

No, not with the RCA and therefore not likely with the balanced either, rather only when using the multi channel analog inputs would that be the case.

Then you've got the bass management to deal with.
post #1228 of 11283
Just put down a deposit. Picking up tomorrow or next day. Replacing Rotel 965 with DTS breakup.
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I am considering this model as a replacement for my beloved Lexicon MC12HD even though that unit still meets most of my needs. Would someone who already has posession of one test for the ability to reuse a HDMI video signal and map it to another input?

What I want to replicate is the way I have an input customized on my Lexicon unit. Specifically I'm looking for the ability to use the HDMI audio and video output of my cable box as say input 1 of the AV8801 and reusing the same cable box HDMI video only portion with the SPDIF audio of my CD player. This way I can play music and watch television at the same time and swap between the two by pressing just one button.
post #1230 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Diesel 48 View Post

Just ordered one! Woohoo!! Replacing my onkyo 805 receiver. Expecting a big upgrade.
I remember that was a great AVR. Sadly I never experienced one, but I was among the first ones with the 605. The first HD decoding AVR I believe. These 8801's are selling like hotcakes. Another question out there on the Harmony front. I see this unit supports a Dynamic Eq toggle IR command, & a Dynamic Eq/Dynamic Volume. Anyone find the Dynamic EQ alone? All I have found is the IR for Dynamic Volume toggle & a Dynamic Eq/Dynamic Volume that toggles them both at the same time. First it displays & cycles the Dynamic EQ with Dynamic Volume under it, then under it on the OSD it starts cycling the Dynamic Volume.
Edited by Geronimo.USMC - 12/26/12 at 10:55am
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