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It is indeed a myth!!
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It is indeed a myth!!
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Originally Posted by Dave Vaughn View Post

I used the HEX codes posted earlier in the tread with success, although the volume up/down code doesn't move in .5 steps...it wants to jump 2.0 steps at a time for some reason. I'm reviewing the unit so it's not a huge deal to me, but I wanted my family to be able to operate the system without having to use the Marantz remote...when I'm using it I just use the stock remote for review purposes.

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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

I do. I'm using some codes from my old 8000 series, some from the AV7005. Mainly I needed HDMI input selections right now and I cross referenced the old and new input names from an old IR xls from Marantz's site with the latest one loaded for the upper end Receiver.. Here's what you need to translate those:
8801 = AV7005
CBL/SAT = SAT or VCR1
DVD=DVD
BRD = BRD
GAME= GAME
Media Player = VCR1
AUX2=AUX2

thanks...will look into.

hex codes:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1431914/marantz-av8801-preamp-processor-official-owners-thread/1200#post_22744564
Edited by ssabripo - 1/9/13 at 6:28am
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Has anyone had the chance to compare the 8801 / 4520
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Ok thanks for your input.
Does anyone else have an opinion for a burn in procedure and time frame for the 8801? Does it really make much of a difference?

I'm in the camp that believes that certain components, the 8801 being one of them, do benefit from burnin. (flame suit on).

But rather than get into an arguement that'll eat up several pages of this thread, lets just say that some users can hear it and others(those who played in a loud band or otherwise ruined their hearing) can't. biggrin.gif
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Thread Starter 
My AV8801 is on the way...
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

same here. I used a NetGear switch with my AV7005 set-up for integrating my BluRay players and DLNA drives, etc.,...However, having the built-in hub/switch on the AV8801 makes for a slightly neater set-up in my rack. Port 1 will connect to my router. Port 2 will be connected to an Oppo BDP-105. I have my PC, DLNA drives, Powerline Adapters (with various devices) connected to my router as well. So far all devices seem to function on my network okay, surprisingly.

Is your 8801 HUB in sleep mode when not in use or is it always on?
I think the problem people are having is when they wake up the HUB not all routers are working with it.
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Are the XLR outputs using a standard XLR plug or is it a proprietary Marantz plug designed for their amp?
I want to hook mine up to some Bryston amps but I was told I needed some type of custom plugs for the Marantz.
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^^^
You don't need anything special/custom.
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Originally Posted by whoaru99 View Post

^^^
You don't need anything special/custom.

Thanks, I was told that they reverse the + and - in the XLR output (european standard I think) and was not sure if that would make a difference with my Bryston amps.
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

I know with my Sunfire pre/pro I just did not turn the volume up that high for a week or so. Since I'm not going to do it like you did, do you think I should do the same thing with the AV8801 and refrain from turning the volume up very high till it has a chance to break in? Can i actually do any harm to it from turning the volume up high before it's broke in? Thanks for your help.

You don't need to turn the volume up, just keep a signal flowing ( music or between FM stations) and no it wont hurt to turn it up!
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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post

Yeah, because "burn in" is actually just the person becoming used to the sound

Then why spend the $$$ on the 8801, I'm sure you can get use to the sound of MP3's;)
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Originally Posted by bfreedma View Post

Burn in is another audiophile myth for solid state components. Just go ahead and enjoy your 8801.
If burn in were viable, measurements would show the difference. Also, did you ever wonder why "burn in" always makes things better and somehow the process magically stops at just the right moment?

Least path of resistance!biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Then why spend the $$$ on the 8801, I'm sure you can get use to the sound of MP3's;)

MP3's like solid state devices, do not burn in tongue.gif

As a side note, the analog out of my Oppo BDP-105 make them sound a lot better.

- Rich
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

I'm in the camp that believes that certain components, the 8801 being one of them, do benefit from burnin. (flame suit on).
But rather than get into an arguement that'll eat up several pages of this thread, lets just say that some users can hear it and others(those who played in a loud band or otherwise ruined their hearing) can't. biggrin.gif

In my opinion, speakers can benefit from being burned-in. Good read about burn-in
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Any suggestions/recommendations on how to hook up 3 subs? The current set up is 1 in front and the other 2 in back, all 15". The concern is how will Audyssey extrapolate the information correctly, currently all are on one lfe signal. I'll do this post burn-in;)
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

You don't need to turn the volume up, just keep a signal flowing ( music or between FM stations) and no it wont hurt to turn it up!

That's a good thing as I had turned up pretty far today, for a song or two. Still playing with the settings and getting used to the sound. The bass that's coming out of my def tech sub is amazing. It also seems to be a pretty good match to my Sunfire amp. I was really worried about that. This thread is the reason I picked the 8801, that and all the praise of the 7005 online.
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Did we all get our 8801s from Steve? lol

Not me. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by OzzieP View Post

Are the XLR outputs using a standard XLR plug or is it a proprietary Marantz plug designed for their amp?
I want to hook mine up to some Bryston amps but I was told I needed some type of custom plugs for the Marantz.

I was in the same boat as you about connecting it to my Sunfire amp via XLR. Supposedly Marantz uses the european method and others including mine use the US method. I actually asked about it in this thread, the response from everyone that answered was don't worry about it as it will match up. I just set my 8801 up yesterday and I had no problems. When I aligned the male pins on the 8801 with the female pins on my amp it matched up. The polarity wasn't reversed as I had read it would be all over the Internet, and it sounded great. This was my experience, hope it helps.
Edited by comfynumb - 1/9/13 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

I'm in the camp that believes that certain components, the 8801 being one of them, do benefit from burnin. (flame suit on).

But rather than get into an arguement that'll eat up several pages of this thread, lets just say that some users can hear it and others(those who played in a loud band or otherwise ruined their hearing) can't. biggrin.gif

It seems like it is a pretty polarizing subject biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by jeffkad View Post

Quick question: does the 8801 run hot, warm, or lukewarm? I would like to put it in a cabinet (Salamander Synergy) with only 1" clearance on top, but the back is open and the front and sides are perforated metal, so it should get good ventilation on all sides but top. Will this work?

I have a Salamander Synergy also open in the back and grills on side and front. I have 6" of space above it and a fan on the back to vent out air. Temp rises about 5 degrees when running and stabilizes when the fan kicks in. The manual recommends 12" clearance. IMO 1" is not enough. Probably will work for a long time but may not be good long term. You should get more clearance or a fan.
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Originally Posted by danielo View Post

You keep looking for answers we can't provide and probably nobody will. You can compare any other specs, number of powersupplies, types of power supplies, number of dacs, size of the box, weight it will not give you the answer.

I keep claiming that on paper both have features the other are missing and that if you look at the parts/buildup the AVP clearly has more (but cost more) 'specs'.

I got my AVP 5 years ago and with the updates i don't see a logic to even consider the 8801 but if i would have to buy today i would be less sure for one do you buy a product that is end of life ? or one that is just introduced would be a big question for me.

My gut feeling is that if you are not convinced by your AVP and this will keep nagging you then sell it and get a 8801 you might miss the AVP but at least you won't have that nagging question smile.gif

Daniel.

I went through this same question. If I had purchased the AVP years ago and upgraded it all along I wouldn't go through the trouble upgrading to another processor unless there was a new feature I rally wanted. But, I didn't want to buy the AVP at the end of its life (and probably no more updates) especially at the cost differential. For the savings I can just buy a new processor down the road.
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

MP3's like solid state devices, do not burn in tongue.gif

As a side note, the analog out of my Oppo BDP-105 make them sound a lot better.

- Rich
Nah, that's not my experience with the Weiss DAC2 + XPA-1 + Jamo R909. What it does is ruthlessly uncovering all below par recordings and lossy files... It's really honoust but also very brutal. You can never get bored listening to great music that's recordered well. You simply have to erase the bad ones. Which I do, but not as often as I should.
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Burn in is the same as smoke test, it will not change the sound. Burn in is the time a weak component will fail, that's what warranties are for.
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Did we all get our 8801s from Steve? lol

I was wondering the same thing...mine's due to arrive Friday.

Reading the balanced cable configuration questions - always makes me wonder the same thing. Thinking it's a non-issue for me since I'm replacing an AV8003 and presuming Marantz would not wire differently for the same connector type.

As for burn-in, mine will be complete when it warms up to room temperature and I plug it in...
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Fr some reason I've lost my GUI overlay - when I access the setup menu, the video signal blacks out and the marantz menu comes up over a black background.

This is also affecting the surround mode overlay, volume overlay, etc...

Haven't changed anything in the video section...video conversion is on, onscreen display settings are on. I unplugged it for about 10 minutes, no change...
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With my AV8801, how can I hook up an Energy sub (S8.3) to my rear speakers. I am currently using a SVS 12+ in the front. The energy sub is just sitting around and I would like to use it. Will it integrate well using Audessey 32? My room is 35'L x 18'W and I am using small surround speakers.
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Then why spend the $$$ on the 8801, I'm sure you can get use to the sound of MP3's;)

I'm not saying all components sound the same, I'm saying I think a solid state component such as a processor, will sound pretty much the same from the first hour to the 200th hour.

And yes, you probably can get used to the sound of MP3's, but once you hear how much better uncompressed music sounds, you never go back wink.gif
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Hey Guys

Had my 8801 for about 2 weeks now and it is a very nice addition to my 7.1 system.

I came from an Outlaw 990 which has served me well and still sounds great. Problem was no HDMI switching hence the upgrade otherwise honestly I would have been happy with it still in my rack. The 8801 is an amazing and sophisticated piece, no question. I am very happy with the sound and features although there are probably more features then I will ever use. I just wanted to make sure the next PrePro I purchased was equal to the Outlaw sonically. I believe the 8801 is that and more so far.

A few questions though for all you experienced audiophiles out there with the 8801 currently in your system.

- I use a Marantz DV 9500 Universal Player for listening to CD, SACD and DVD audio. I currently have it hooked up via 7.1 direct input but also digitally for more surround options to listen to CD's. What do you guys recommend........HDMI, optical or digital coax for this?

- What setting in the DV 9500 should I output, PCM or bitstream? (The DV 9500 is at least 5 years old now) I assume setting it to PCM will shift the decoding duties to the 8801?

-I assume the DTS Neo X surround option only benefits you if you are running an 11.1 system?

- I am curious what your thoughts are to listening to SACD,DVD-A via HDMI vs 7.1 analog. I tried HDMI (via my OPPO BP 83) but the rear surround disc info defaults to the side surrounds which is not what I want. The 7.1 analog hookup allows me to route the rear surround info to my rear surrounds which gives me a better listening experience for my high resolution multichannel disks. Is there a way to route the information to my rear surrounds via the HDMI route.....other than switching speaker cables :-(

-My 8801 seems to run a little hot, it definitely is not cool to the touch. Is this normal?........just wondering what other folks are experiencing?

-when you have a component that you have hooked up both analog and digitally, is there an easier way to switch inputs rather than going into setup and through a couple of menu choices? My Marantz receiver has an A/D button for this but I am not finding one on the 8801.

-I have only run Audessey once, it changed my front speakers to large (I am running dual Outlaw LFM 1 EX's and Onix Rocket 850's up front) so I manually changed them back to small. If from what I've read on this forum, this will not affect the room correction that Audessey has performed?

-As well, at the start of the Audessey process, I adjusted both sub volumes to read 75 dB for the test sweep, however after it was done, when I checked the levels, the subs were adjusted to -12 dB each which is above what is recommended(+/- 3 dB). If I run the sweep again but lower the sub volume to below 75 dB, I'm afraid there won't be enough bass with the final result. Am I missing something here or should I just trust Audessey implicitly?

-lastly, I have JVC RS 20 projector that I believe I am feeding a signal to that has bypassed the video processing in the 8801. Is this a good idea or should I turn the video processing on in the 8801? Generally speaking, is the video processing best left to the BR player, 8801 or the projector? Not quite sure how to turn it on or if indeed it is off right now in the 8801 (video conversion?, I/P scaler)......I hope that makes sense! Very complicated and confusing :-)

Thanks in advance
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Has anyone done a comparison on the AV8801 with connections? Meaning XLR/RCA? Is worth it for me to purchase XLR? Any thoughts?

Thanks
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