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post #1831 of 11313
Exactly what happened with my Denon 4520.Seems must share the same processor.
post #1832 of 11313
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Was watchng Star Trek last night, and while it sounded good, it wasn't as dynamic as other movies I watched. I looked in the marantz audio menu, surround parameter, and, voila, there was a Dynamic Compression (TrueHD) option turned on by default for truehd which was, well, compressing the playback. Turned it off, and the glory was back...

It only appears when a TrueHD track is playing...

Sorry comment above meant for ^^^^
post #1833 of 11313
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Originally Posted by Stewy04 View Post

I have waited for 3 years and have finally purchased and installed a system into my home. I have wired the entire top floor of my house with speakers and will be running speakers outside in the spring when its warmer. My multi zone system is controlled of course by the AV 8801. I am still figuring out even the most basic of operations (install was finished yesterday). I am wondering , Am I able to listen to my I pod in the main zone and also play on my PS3 in the main zone? And if so how? I'm fairly sure I can do this. Just not sure how

Yes, but will depend on how the iPod and PS3 are connected to the 8801. The "Video Select" feature (p.136 OM) allows you to listen to an audio source and select a non-HDMI video source. So if you also connect the PS3 with a component video cable and use a different source name you should then be able to connect the iPod via USB and listen to it while watching the PS3 component video input. Although on previous year's Denon and Marantz models it would have also been possible to use the Network source (eg. Airplay) while watching the component video source, this feature appears to have been removed (at least on the Denon XX13 models) so its loss on the 8801 will have to be confirmed one way or the other by an owner. Another option, which would allow you to use the PS3 HDMI input, would be to connect the iPod to the 8801 via a 3.5mm to RCA adapter with the analog input and HDMI inputs using the same source name and then changing the INPUT MODE (p. 136 OM) for that source to "Analog".
post #1834 of 11313
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Is the top of the unit hot?

No, i have a cooler on it, i ended up unplugging it, everything seems to be fine....
post #1835 of 11313
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Originally Posted by buckley44 View Post

No, i have a cooler on it, i ended up unplugging it, everything seems to be fine....
What do you mean by cooler?
Hook up a PC type cooler on it or did you strap on a block of dry ice to it?
wink.gif
post #1836 of 11313
Maybe that's why it froze up , the ice melted lol...
No I have a little fan on it that is for equipment that I purchased at the cooler guys for Av equipment,. i responded to that because you asked me if it got hot so my reply was I put a cooler on it (cooler of beer and ice)lol
I'm sorry It was JimP that asked me if it got hot.
post #1837 of 11313
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Originally Posted by OzzieP View Post

What do you mean by cooler?
Hook up a PC type cooler on it or did you strap on a block of dry ice to it?
wink.gif

I tried it an it's not necessary...

post #1838 of 11313
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Originally Posted by randman View Post

Diehard D2v fans claim that it is quite a bit better than the D2. However, in this hobby, what's a big difference for some may be subtle or insignificant to others. It's not like driving cars where a car costing multiple times the cost of another will be an incontrovertible difference.

My previous processor was a D2. I would have been happy keeping it but I needed a processor that handled high def audio via bitstream. The D2 can take LPCM but my Dune Smart D1 couldn't convert to LPCM properly (and getting a reliable media server that can handle mkv's is harded to find than a good processor). The D2 only handled 5.1 LPCM too. Finally, I got tired of the HDMI handshaking problems with the D2.

I had considered getting a D2v but its price had gone significantly higher than what the D2 was when I bought it 6+ years. Anthem had a great upgrade program from the D2 but sadly cancelled it by the time I wanted to upgrade.

Anyway, the AV8801 has some nice features over the D2v such as TCP support. Only complaint is that Marantz support doesn't respond to online questions (but when I called them I got my answer, which was to get the RS232 and discrete Ir codes. Haven't heard back from them re Xantech Ir to AV8801 remote control issues though. Anthem has great suppor and is very responsivet. But hopefully I won't be needing much support for the AV8801 in the long run.

I haven't done any critical music listening to compare the D2 and AV8801. In recent years I've only used my system for movies. Just haven't had time to sit down and try to compare their musicality. But so far I like what I've heard from the AV8801.

from what i have read... the d2v was not an upgrade as far as sound, but it addressed with the "blue to red board" or visversa...in the non "v" version... but that was also a fix for the handshake issues. the d2v did the 1.3 hdmi. that is why i was curious about the sound and the arc vs. the new audessy.

thanks,
Bill
post #1839 of 11313
The funny part is brushless DC motors are very noisy and inpart noise into audio equipment from the square wave, when switching there is a lage magnetic and electrical pulse. Putting a cooling fan on top of a processor is one of the easiest ways to impart noise. This is less of a concern on a power amp but still has potential for issues. So many people go to great lengths to clean up AC power and use XLR cables, etc and then they put one of the worst noise sources right on top of their processor or receiver.
Edited by sfav - 1/14/13 at 2:24pm
post #1840 of 11313
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Originally Posted by baranowski View Post

from what i have read... the d2v was not an upgrade as far as sound, but it addressed with the "blue to red board" or visversa...in the non "v" version... but that was also a fix for the handshake issues. the d2v did the 1.3 hdmi. that is why i was curious about the sound and the arc vs. the new audessy.

thanks,
Bill

I thought the upgrade was for video only but I read in the Anthem forum that some folks claimed hearing improved sound. Anyway, Anthem unfortunately stopped providing the ability to upgrade a D2 to a D2v, so I was faced with having to buy a new processor outright, which was one of the factors that led me to getting a Marantz.
post #1841 of 11313
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

I tried it an it's not necessary...


That's exactly what it looked like, very funny....
post #1842 of 11313
Thrang,

I noticed you have done a Audyssey Pro calibration on the 8801. I have an Onkyo PR-SC5508 and love how you can connect to the unit via the Network to do a Pro calibration versus using a USB to serial adapter. Does the Marantz do this as well?
post #1843 of 11313
I posted this in separate thread by mistake but its a really cool feature for windows 8 and the 8801

While on the Marantz site and while not official it mentions compatibly with windows 8, I checked my network and there was my Oppo105 and 8801, I clicked on the 8801 and it took me to the web and low and behold I'm sitting here looking at all my settings and can configure what I want while posting this. It might be a large remote but its great to say the least and worth checking out!biggrin.gif
post #1844 of 11313
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Is anyone else losing OSD periodically? Either a reboot of the Marantz or the source component brings it back...

This has been a bug in denon's (and now marantz) platform for years in most of their models including the AVP happens for most people about once in 3 months. restart to bring it back. It has been reported many times but i guess they can't find it smile.gif

Daniel.
post #1845 of 11313
The network / USB / Marantz iPad app seems very flaky to me. I can finally get it to work, but it seems like after I turn things on it may take 5-10 "tries" to get the iPad app to reliably allow me to select the music folders on my plugged in USB stick and navigate and play music. It also seems like the app will lose connectivity to the Av8801. It seems like once I get it working it stays working, but like I said, it might take 5-10 times of having the app lock up, lose connectivity, etc before it stays working. This may very well be an issue with the app and not the unit, though. Anyone else having these issues?
post #1846 of 11313
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

The network / USB / Marantz iPad app seems very flaky to me. I can finally get it to work, but it seems like after I turn things on it may take 5-10 "tries" to get the iPad app to reliably allow me to select the music folders on my plugged in USB stick and navigate and play music. It also seems like the app will lose connectivity to the Av8801. It seems like once I get it working it stays working, but like I said, it might take 5-10 times of having the app lock up, lose connectivity, etc before it stays working. This may very well be an issue with the app and not the unit, though. Anyone else having these issues?

My network is having a problem seeing the 8801. It has connected a couple of times but I have not been able to get it to connect recently even though it is connected directly to the router with a new cable. I have tried two different ports on the router no change.

Other devices plugged into the 8801's hub work fine, very strange. Any suggestions?
post #1847 of 11313
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Originally Posted by danielo View Post

This has been a bug in denon's (and now marantz) platform for years in most of their models including the AVP happens for most people about once in 3 months. restart to bring it back. It has been reported many times but i guess they can't find it smile.gif

Daniel.

Thanks - its happening a few times a night for me, but I watch a fair amount of TV with a lot of 720/1080 rex changes, as opposed to straight film watching...I spoke with their CS yesterday and they are escalating that and some other queries...
post #1848 of 11313
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Originally Posted by pepsi View Post

Thrang,

I noticed you have done a Audyssey Pro calibration on the 8801. I have an Onkyo PR-SC5508 and love how you can connect to the unit via the Network to do a Pro calibration versus using a USB to serial adapter. Does the Marantz do this as well?

Not that I can see - serial/ only. I do miss that features a little, but a 30 foot USB cable easily takes me out of the room to start each round of tones, so not a big miss ultimately....
post #1849 of 11313
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Originally Posted by danielo View Post

This has been a bug in denon's (and now marantz) platform for years in most of their models including the AVP happens for most people about once in 3 months. restart to bring it back. It has been reported many times but i guess they can't find it smile.gif

Daniel.

Also, I find restarting the source works - so I can leaves the 8801 on, power cycle the DirecTV, and the OSD works again. When I took the DirecTV out of native mode, so it sent everything 1080i (no resolution changes), I didn't see the issue over a two hour period either. So it seems to be related to changes in resolution while an input is active.
post #1850 of 11313
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

My network is having a problem seeing the 8801. It has connected a couple of times but I have not been able to get it to connect recently even though it is connected directly to the router with a new cable. I have tried two different ports on the router no change.

Other devices plugged into the 8801's hub work fine, very strange. Any suggestions?

My personal opinion is that the 8801 simply has some issues in its networking implementation. Maybe a firmware update can fix it. I will mess around with giving it a static IP and see if that resolves anything. Perhaps the issue lies in DHCP issues.
post #1851 of 11313
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

My personal opinion is that the 8801 simply has some issues in its networking implementation. Maybe a firmware update can fix it. I will mess around with giving it a static IP and see if that resolves anything. Perhaps the issue lies in DHCP issues.

I tried that but no joy. If you get it to work please post your steps. Thanks!
post #1852 of 11313
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

My personal opinion is that the 8801 simply has some issues in its networking implementation. Maybe a firmware update can fix it. I will mess around with giving it a static IP and see if that resolves anything. Perhaps the issue lies in DHCP issues.

See my post #1799 on page 60 for a network issue...I've reported it to Marantz....
post #1853 of 11313
Ok cool maybe they can look into that. I guess the best way I can describe the networking issues I am having so far is that it takes it a long time after turn on to reliably work on the network. 5 minutes or more before it just starts working correctly. For instance, I went to the unit after posting about DHCP an hour or so ago to see about changing to a static address, and turned it on. I couldn't get it to go to the menu where you can change network parameters. Clicked run network diagnostics and it just sat there "thinking" for a long time. I switched inputs and back to get off that setup screen, went back in and ran network diagnostics again, and it found everything and gave me full control as it should. So something isn't right.

To your point, Thrang, about it losing your static IP, I have noticed this unit "forget" other settings as well. I went in to add my second sub and noticed that it had RESET my front mains to large. I had them set to small. So I think it loses settings in general.
post #1854 of 11313
Given that it's currently winter, with low humidity, is there any chance you (or another member of your household) is zapping the 8801 with static electricity shocks? Static electricity can certainly cause changes in settings and even permanent damage.
post #1855 of 11313
I have no issues with mine and set up all Marantz products on IP control and static. In most cases network issues are caused by poor quality home routers, cascaded switches, ip conflicts, etc. I strongly recommend not using the internal switch on the unit for any other devices and using static IP and then setting the network setting on the unit so it is always live. Connectivity via a web browser is very reliable if you have a proper network and settings. If you are using an all-in-one ATT Uverse modem/router, 2wire, etc you will likely have many network issues as they are complete and utter garbage because of their invasive software. An easy check to see if the unit is loosing connectivity is to manually turn it on and off if it is on DHCP and test again or even when it is on as it will grab an address. Make sure all network setting are correct when using static and there are no other devices on the network with static IP address in the DHCP range. If you are using an Apple router or something that can be configured more like a Ubiquity air router you should be good.
post #1856 of 11313
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

Or Scott at scott@techht.com in Tennessee. smile.gif

Another +1 for Scott
post #1857 of 11313
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Originally Posted by sfav View Post

I have no issues with mine and set up all Marantz products on IP control and static. In most cases network issues are caused by poor quality home routers, cascaded switches, ip conflicts, etc. I strongly recommend not using the internal switch on the unit for any other devices and using static IP and then setting the network setting on the unit so it is always live. Connectivity via a web browser is very reliable if you have a proper network and settings. If you are using an all-in-one ATT Uverse modem/router, 2wire, etc you will likely have many network issues as they are complete and utter garbage because of their invasive software. An easy check to see if the unit is loosing connectivity is to manually turn it on and off if it is on DHCP and test again or even when it is on as it will grab an address. Make sure all network setting are correct when using static and there are no other devices on the network with static IP address in the DHCP range. If you are using an Apple router or something that can be configured more like a Ubiquity air router you should be good.

What would you recommend for a home router with wireless?
post #1858 of 11313
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

What would you recommend for a home router with wireless?

Netgear wndr 4500
post #1859 of 11313
Also guys if at all possible try not to run your cable boxes ( also dvr's) through your gear (pre/pro) and use an optical cable for audio and video hdmi directly to the display as there unstable voltage swings and spikes are very erratic and the cause of many of your woe's! this also cuts down on lipsync issues by a simple pause or stop from dvr's;)
post #1860 of 11313
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Originally Posted by sfav View Post

I have no issues with mine and set up all Marantz products on IP control and static. In most cases network issues are caused by poor quality home routers, cascaded switches, ip conflicts, etc. I strongly recommend not using the internal switch on the unit for any other devices and using static IP and then setting the network setting on the unit so it is always live. Connectivity via a web browser is very reliable if you have a proper network and settings. If you are using an all-in-one ATT Uverse modem/router, 2wire, etc you will likely have many network issues as they are complete and utter garbage because of their invasive software. An easy check to see if the unit is loosing connectivity is to manually turn it on and off if it is on DHCP and test again or even when it is on as it will grab an address. Make sure all network setting are correct when using static and there are no other devices on the network with static IP address in the DHCP range. If you are using an Apple router or something that can be configured more like a Ubiquity air router you should be good.

+1 , my network is solid as a rock and no memory loss as well from my settings!
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