Marantz AV8801 Preamp/Processor Official Owner's thread - Page 72

I am going to see if the 8003 kit would fit this. If yes, I may not change.

Do you have the 8003 already with rack kit? Any pics installed?

I dont have pictures and unfortunately sold my 8003 as well. I am getting 8801 tomorrow and will have it installed before saturday night.

I can take pictures of that and send

Thanks that would be appreciated.

Thrang, you're never gonna believe it...well maybe you will, but my NEO X just magically started working today on DTS HD. I didn't change any connections, it just suddenly today activated my heights (I don't have wides). When I did this a few days ago the heights wouldn't come on, now they do. Same movie, same setup.

On a side note, I think I like NEO x better than DSX. I'll need to listen to it more, but it sounded slightly more articulate than DSX on Avengers.

I would imagine it would look similiar to this rack-mount kit used on the D&M Pro DN-500AV AV pre-amplifier (a re-configured Denon/Marantz pre-pro):
http://usa.d-mpro.com/us/denon/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=ReceiversTuners&SubCatId=SurroundSoundPreamplifiers&ProductId=DN500AVAVSurroundPreamplifier

It's 4U in height



a different brand rack mount bracket shown here (Middle Atlantic?)
Edited by WestCoastD - 1/24/13 at 3:42pm

I use one from Middle Atlantic. I dont use Marantz Rack Ears.

I had a slight tick in my right surround speaker with my first 8801, which I do not hear with my replacement - same amps and cables. But for me, the tick sound happened every three or four minutes, not just once.

Since the original is returned, I never really pursued the root cause
Edited by thrang - 1/24/13 at 1:07pm

please elaborate, i can get my remote to change inputs no problems after its powered on.
my harmony one now works well, i can get marantz to power on zone 1 only for my activities.
when i turn off my system, the marantz properly shuts off.

Thanks for letting me know that.

Nice.
My 8801 arrives tomorrow as well.
Same birthday

- Rich

The harmony remote tries to remember the on or off state.
So long, as it is right, it works fine.
If not, you hit the help button and it you answer the on off.

Is some piece did not see the or, things get out of sync.
It is much easier if your remote sends on and not toggles.

I use a Pronto which does not remember state so repeating the turn on sequence with a power toggle turns it off.

- Rich

I am looking at Control4 as an option for my theater set up alone.

Cheers

Get an HC800 in case you want to do more automation in the house, it will do everything. My entire home is on one including the 8801 since I sell both of course:) There is an 8801 C4 ip driver as well.

You might want to check Roomie Remote out - very versatile, and easy to setup for IR, IP, and Serial control. Requires an iPhone or iPad.

NeoX is awesome for movies and DSX is awesome for sports!

Either you've proved I'm not nuts or you've proved we're both nuts...

Yeah, that's kind of what happened with my second unit, but the first never came to life. Conversely, there's nothing to say they won't disappear either, so I presume this is why a firmware fix is coming...

Yes, I prefer Neo:X, and as Joerod says, DSX is sometimes better for sports...just have to watch for the voice of god syndrome...

Does anybody know, is the built-in ethernet hub 1 GBits/s or only 100 MBits/s ?

I saw that, but not sure if I will be able to program that to work consistently. I am not sure if any installer is available for that in 95051 zip code. I don't want a solution thats tough for me to program and my wife being on my back

If I can find some one who can program nothing like that.

I really can't stand any remote based on a touch screen. Does anyone expect to have their phone ready for use all the time. Regardless all these TS remotes are ergonomic nightmares and require looking down at the screen all the time. Most customers hate them and I constantly replace them because someone thought it would be "cool". There are much better options particularly for the non-tech spouse.

I kind of agree and like Control4 Remote. I also have an option get one downloaded on my ipad (for extra fees). This gives me a backup.

i believe it is only 100mbit

Has anyone else tryed configuring the triggers to selectively turn on a device based on which input is on? It is not working on mine. I can't select just one input to turn the trigger on - it is always on. Even if I turn off all the device triggers in setup, I'm still getting 12 volts out of the trigger wire. I called Marantz tech support today and was told with all trigger inputs turned off there should be no currrent at the trigger, and if I was still getting current my AV8801 is defective. However, they also said if I exchanged it for another one, the new one might not work correctly either. Tech support does not yet have a unit of their own to test with - they're supposed to be getting one, but don't have it yet.

It would be appreciated if someone could try this out on their unit. Really don't want to go to the work of packing this up, re-setting a new one up, and discovering that the triggers on the new one still don't work right. I reset the microprocessor - no change.

A couple of tips I can share. If you want the ability to listen\switch to any analog audio source (including network, internet radio, HD radio) while continuing to watch your video source: You can just run RCA cables from a Zone output to the analog input for the HDMI video source your using. Tech support warned me to turn the analog input down to minimum before doing this, but I actually had to turn up both the Zone output and analog input levels to get a decent volume. The InputMode remote command can be used to switch between HDMI and analog sound. Works great!

For the harmony remote users: As discussed earlier, the toggle on/off remote code in the database is not the correct code. In my case, it was executing the Zone 2 On/Off toggle command. I contacted Logitech Support and pointed it out to them. They set up a support ticket and claimed they would follow-up on it. The commands they have in their database for the AV8801 are pretty limited. I added the Marantz AV7005 as another device and found the InputMode command, and a number of other useful commands.

Just buy a dedicated iPad or iPod Touch if having your phone available is an issue.

I purchased an iPad and a cup holder mount, and it works great - yes, once in a while you wish you had a few hard buttons, but compared to Universal Remote, Nevo, Pronto, and Harmony (the worst), all of which I've programmed, Roomie is by far the easiest and most reliable

Having a dedicated device is not the only issue. Touch screens are clunky as remotes and most consumers grow tired of turning on a display, keeping it charged, having to look down to see the channel button, etc. Even an ipod makes a poor remote for most consumers, I know this because I have sold and programmed more than 1000 universal remotes and see people wanting to switch back to a standard remote over and over. Hybrid remotes have value but a full TS is not ergonomic at all, it's more of a awkward toy for most users. Yes, I know some people like TS remotes but this is the minority.

Nice that the cable is grounded but it needs to be grounded at or adjacent to the main house ground in order to avoid ground loops through the cable line.

My experiences are similar to Kal. Having the cable entrance grounded at the same ground potential as the electrical panel can be critical.

I should have the Marantz rack kit for my AV8801 tomorrow. Installation should occur this weekend.

They should all have the same ground, but there are no guarantees. Both home owners and licensed electricians make mistakes in wiring. The quality of grounds can vary. Best case for a circuit is isolated ground. Grounds via flex conduit will typically not be as good as grounds via a direct wire. If the electrical feed involves sub panels, the grounds and neutrals in the sub-panel have to be isolated, but I have seen this done incorrectly.

Thank you all for your replies. Very helpful.